Human without the bean

[quote name=Twinky' date='04 July 2010 - 03:36 PM' timestamp='1278286565' post='5041

Question: suppose it was some drunken sexual encounter that went horribly wrong? Suppose the man was drunk, that the encounter went wrong (maybe she laughed at him and he hit her too hard?) - he panicked, perhaps, drove off and tried to hide the body. Or maybe he was a jealous ex-boyfriend who intentionally killed her because she left him?

I'm sure this has happened more times than we think! More times than we will ever know.

Suppose when sober or his rage at rejection was abated, the man was horrified by what he did, and has lived an exemplary life since, avoiding drink and substances or situations that make him lose self-control?

This is along the line that I am suggesting. Is it possible for someone who has murdered another person and kept to himself for a number of years to maintain a disciplined life one free from any more violence? This is to say he has changed his heart and now has repented of his wrong doing.

Should such a man face a murder trial that might result in his imprisonment for a very long period?

Definitely he/she should. I couldn't see his act of violence upon another person go on without some cost or penalty, even if it was only a crime of passion gone a wry.

is this "about the way" or should it be moved to general discussion?

Maybe your right potato, it is not intended for "about the way," and should be moved. I looked before posting this topic and couldn't find one that seemed best for the subject. Where is that thread?

I wanted to ask this question as a discussion to the GSC members to get their opinions about the heart of a murderer. (What's in their hearts?) Evil only! Some Good!

Some of you may have heard of the 7 year old boy from Oregon in the news lately, Kyron Hormon. He disappeared and hasn't been seen since. The outcome of this story remains to be seen. Only a small percentage of these kids ever come back safe.

There is no doubt murderers walking the streets who have killed people. Whether they killed their victims a month or a year, or 12 years ago is not important. The point is that not all murderers get caught and are able to trick society into thinking that they are one of the rest of us non-murderer types.

Some real plot added for context < When I was 19 yrs old I was caught drinking in a bar and was held in detention over the weekend until I was arraigned. In my holding cell on the 3rd floor I overheard a couple of guys talking from the floor below me about a murder that one of them committed.

I don't know what ever became of it. Whether the story was true or not. It could have been true, or it could of been just some career criminal wanting to scare the pants off of a 19 yr.old fresh off the streets. I don't know >.

Still the point remains that murderers have been around since the fall, (or right after)!

I think I am basically asking this question about non- believers whether or not if you think they have any good left in their hearts or not. I think that is probably why these people commit the act of murder anyway because they are not of God and can't know how to behave like a person of God.

Are their hearts able to recover any ounce of what they were before they committed this act of violence?

Come on WordWolf, I'm getting itchy fingers. Your up on this thread

This is one of the funniest scenes ever in a movie!

Policeman Is that bubble what I think it is? But...how...how'd you get the zipper all

the way to the top?

Well, there's only one thing to do.

The Kid. No, no, no, I'll be fine. I'll just hang my shirttail out and work on it in the

morning.

Policeman reaches down and takes hold of the zipper.

The Kid No, no, please!

Policeman It's just like pulling off a Band-aid.

A-one and a-two and...

Paramedic We got a bleeder!

There's Something About Mary :lol:

I'll go again. Not so obscure this time. :)

You should have seen me with the pocker man,

I had a honey and I bet a grand,

Just in the nick of time I looked at his hand.

I was talking to an Eskimo,

Said he was hopping for a fall of snow,

When up popped a sea lion ready to go.

Long ago life was clean

Sex was bad and obscene

And the rich were so mean

Stately homes for the Lords

Croquet lawns, village greens

Victoria was my queen

Victoria, Victoria, Victoria,`toria

A kind of obscure tune from The Kinks. ~Victoria~

Well maybe a very obscure song from The Kinks.

I heard of this one guy, walks into a bank with a portable phone. He gives the phone to the teller, a guy on the other end of the line says, we've got this guy's little girl, if you don't give him all your money, we're gonna kill her.

Did it work?

Fricking-A right, it worked. That's what I'm saying. Knucklehead walks into a bank with a telephone! Not a pistol, not a shotgun, but a fricking phone. Cleans the place out, doesn't even lift a fricking finger.

Did they hurt the little girl?

I don't know, there probably never was a little girl in the first place. The point of the story isn't the little girl, the point of the story is, they robbed a bank with a telephone.

You want to rob banks? I'm not saying I want to rob banks, I'm just illustrating that if we did, it'd be easier than what we've been doing.

No more liquor stores? What have we been talking about? Yeah, no more liquor stores.

:o George was there really a movie named Supergirl. I can't believe it. But then again, you would know with the Robin logo in your username wouldn't you.

Wait a minute is Uma Thurman in that?

Certainment!

You're up.

George

You want to rob banks? I'm not saying I want to rob banks, I'm just illustrating that if we did, it'd be easier than what we've been doing.

No more liquor stores? What have we been talking about? Yeah, no more liquor stores.

HELLO HELLO HELLO HOW LOW

OK. Third Line. Same Movie

I want a guy who can play 36 holes and still have enough energy to take me and Warren, to a ball game and eat hot dogs. I'm talking sausage hot dogs beer not light beer, but beer. That's my add print it up.

That's just nucking futts. Very funny too! :D

Long ago life was clean

Sex was bad and obscene

And the rich were so mean

Stately homes for the Lords

Croquet lawns, village greens

You say you love me

And you’re thinkin’ of me

But you know you could be wrong

You say you told me

That you wanna hold me

But you know you’re not that strong

I just can’t do what I done before

I just can’t beg you anymore

I’m gonna let you pass

And I’ll go last

Then time will tell just who fell

And who’s been left behind

When you go your own way, and I'll go mine.

Well that last line is pretty much the title of this song only it's

[b]Most Likely You Will Go Your Way (And I'll Go Mine) [/b]> Bob Dylan

Julie and Julia?

Hello, I'd like to weight in about something that I heard. A fellow AC grad told me once that 2 of the most powerful influences in American culture were # 1(what or whom) and # 2 The Moody Blues.

Anyone ever hear this? Can anyone elaborate on this. I think I might not have quoted this unsubstantiated claim right, but that's the gist of it!

~The Moody Blues~ They were seed of the serpent for sure!

I just wondered about this statement that I heard from an AC grad. Does anyone else here remember something along those lines? And what was the #1 influence in our culture? :blink:

Or maybe it was a werewolf ( as in wierwille) damn him for brainwashing me anyhow. :wacko:

I like ~Beyond Here Lies Nothing~. :P I saw Bob last year in concert. A legend in his own time, but I really didn't get a whole lot out of it! His music, his newer music, takes a little getting used to.

If you like his more modern stuff then you probably would enjoy the new album. Me, personally, I still haven't bought it. For me, the early music is the best. :B) The FreeWheelin Bob Dylan, Blond On Blond, Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited.

And I also like his christian period music with Slow Train Coming being my favorite.

Same movie, different line!

Man:"My real passion is my hobby."

Woamn:"Really, what's that?"

Man: "I work with retards".

You say you love me

And you’re thinkin’ of me

But you know you could be wrong

You say you told me

That you wanna hold me

But you know you’re not that strong

I just can’t do what I done before

I just can’t beg you anymore

I’m gonna let you pass

And I’ll go last

Then time will tell just who fell

And who’s been left behind

We got a bleeder!

Anyone? It's open to a free post.

You say you love me

And you're thinkin' of me

But you know you could be wrong

You say you told me

That you wanna to hold me

But you know you're not that strong

My Dad used to call him Dr. Werewolf when I was in TWI. If the name fits.