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All the Way Corp spouses who were asked to leave the Corps, or headquarters, because their spouse may have blown it, and she gets a free pass?
Donna's new spouse lives at hq, so she gets to stay......
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[This message was edited by IMF777 on March 04, 2004 at 13:25.]
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Mark:
I think Pat is trying to get out of scanning the whole 365 pages, the wimp haha. He claims his arthritis is hurting him.....
Hey, would you have thought TWI owned 21 properties in the New Knoxville area?
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Hey all, Pat asked me to ask you people for your opinion. The file he received is 365 pages. The evidentiary hearing was a lot of scanning at less than half of this file.
The question he asks is should he weed out the the less important info? The report includes the investigator's notes on his investigation, the complaints from various interested parties, etc.
By the way, the report also disclosed 21 properties TWI owns in the New Knoxville area....
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IMF777,please explain what point you are trying to make by posting this link. Other than you read excultworld.com....
No point. This is a forum about TWI and this info is about TWI and the McMullen trial which had been discussed previously on this forum.
I asked Pat about the faxes, and he said:
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"As far as the public nature of the faxes, they were sent as part of the public record file requested by me as an official media request.The attorney for the Ohio Dept. of commerce reviewed the documents before they were sent
Many court documents started out originally as confidential correspondance, but once submitted into evidence, they are public record, and TWI nor anyone else can say anything about it."
I think that the Peeler case will have a goldmine of this type of information available when it goes to trial. I am sure there will be some real eye openers.....
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[This message was edited by IMF777 on March 03, 2004 at 13:23.]
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Just Thinking:
This was part of the page heading:
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The current entire public information case file of 365 pages was obtainedfrom the Ohio Department of Commerce by official media request
If it is public information, I would guess that it must not be protected anymore if it was part of the official record. At least that is my opinion....
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I just read this handwritten note Rosie faxed to TWI's attorneys regarding the McMullen trial.
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"One trial down and one to go. It was good to come home with the victory."
The note continues on from there...
http://www.excultworld.com/Way%20Cemeteries/Rosie_note.htm
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lifted up:
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Lifted Up:
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I did not know it was a requirement that you have been in TWI to post here. I have a close friend that was and I have taken an interest in this whole TWI cult experience.
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If you check my profile, I have been registered on this board coming up on two years in june.
While I also lean towards the side of caution because of nutcases on the net(which is why I post anonomysly), nut cases I would think are not long time posters but clowns who raid a board and leave. Of course this is my opinion and I may be wrong ....
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Kit:
I talked to pat over the weekend and it seems that the case is going along faster due to people reading the court testimony and the comments made here in this thread.
TWI has been dragging their feet all along, and now the depositions are being taken I think this month.
The feeling I get is that all the info sent to the lawyers for the Peelers has been greatly appreciated and will help get the truth out in the trial.
In my opinion, anything that shows that TWI lied about something in their preliminary court testimony is crucial to get to the lawyers.
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You may want to read the interview with Officer Mark Roggeman and his knowledge of TWI alleged purchase of 500 assault rifles from a Gunnison gun dealer before you label things a false accusation....
http://www.excultworld.com/interviews/Mark%20Roggeman.htm
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I was just daydreaming about the upcoming Peeler trial depositions, and this thought came into my mind: What would I ask Rosie, Loy, Harvey and the rest of them?
In a deposition the person being deposed has to answer under oath the questions put forth.
Knowing they would have to answer your question, what would you ask?
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lady cat
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I did not know it was a requirement that you have been in TWI to post here. I have a close friend that was and I have taken an interest in this whole TWI cult experience.
If you never were in twi, why are you here?
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johniam,
I asked Pat what it was all about now that I knew who you were referring to.
He said while writing a book (which he hasn't finished), that he had a theory about God not creating things more than once.
His examples included creating Adam, then not creating Eve, but taking genetic material (a rib) from adam to make Eve.
Then when all life was to be wiped out by the flood, life was preserved in an ark with noah.
Pat's theory about Mary's conception was that God removed sperm from Adam in the garden before the fall,and preserved it in a frozen state.
Kinda like we do with bulls sperm for future impregnation.Because the earth was covered by a flood, I think he thought that space was the only place it could be kept frozen for implantation into Mary.
The cap of his theory was that Jesus was called the 2nd adam, and that might have more significance than people realized. Perhaps that is why he had this theory.
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I don't see why you would have a negative attitude about someone having a theory that sorta makes some sense.
Remember, IMF, you're dealing with a guy who believes there was jizz in outer space.
I know that I haven't been in TWI and know the bible like you guys do, but the guy is smart and has literally given the shirt off his back to help people.
I remember many times when he delivered food to families with none, and one time when Pat bought 50 cases of canned vegetables for the local food shelf.
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[This message was edited by IMF777 on February 25, 2004 at 12:51.]
[This message was edited by IMF777 on February 25, 2004 at 12:53.]
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Johniam:
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Huh??? Who are you talking about?
Remember, IMF, you're dealing with a guy who believes there was jizz in outer space.
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What about this song about washing your feet in the blood of the wicked. Weren't those that left TWI considered copouts or wicked?
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I was told that B.G. Leonard's gifts of the spirit class, in the first session, tests that each student is already proficient in the 3 worship gifts.
Apparently Leonard felt that being born again and having Holy Spirit was crucial to understanding the scriptures being taught...
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Socks: I think it all depends on which time zone you were in when you prayed, and whether you crossed the international time zone while praying and your prayer was sent back in time or not. Also, are these prayers now subject to the laws of another country.....
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ex: I have heard that phrase greasespot, but I always thought it meant the general presense of grease in a diner or cafe that seems to be everywhere.
Is there another inside joke I don't know about?
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I have heard that when people left TWI, that part of the shunning ritual was to pray for their destruction. Some of the documents I have read stated this practice.
I also listened to a woman named Donna M. saying to a group in public that a former way minister's daughter or grandaughter died in a plane wreck because he left.
This is a classic practice I have heard in several interviews that is used by cults to instill a fear of leaving.
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Although I don't know as much as you folks that have been in TWI, it seems to me that praying for evil to fall upon someone is wrong.
And if either God or satan responds to prayers, then the author has a point I think.
A verse I have read in way stuff is John 10:10 which says the thief comes not for to steal, kill and destroy; I am come that they might have life....
Seems like those people praying for stuff the thief does is asking for his help to accomplish it....
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A posting I saw on another list posted by pjroberge. It made me pause to think:
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I am currently writing a few biblical articles about wrong doctrine and practices that we did in TWI. After discussing the following matter with a fellow believer, we have come to some rather distateful conclusions about TWI spiritually.1) Anyone who wills evil for another person whether believer or not,is working for satan.
2) Anyone who tries to control another person is using witchcraft to do so.
3) Witchraft is the operation of satanic power or the summoning of evil demons to do evil satanic acts.
4) When believers prayed for the destruction or evil to happen to those that left the "household", they were not praying to the true God, but were praying to satan and sending evil spirits or demons to hurt God's children.
5)The teaching that TWI and other cults have done about leaving the group or the "protection" of the household is a lie of satan designed to get people that left to let their guard down, and to allow the demon to attack the believer.
6) The evil spirit or demon group are called "destroyers", and if allowed to land or take root because of permission being given by
the potential target, the person will be destroyed as much as the demon is allowed to by the person being attacked.
7) The real protection from this type of attack is not from the bogus "household", but rather from the individual and their personal
operation of their gift of Holy Spirit and rebuking of the demon.
8) As I have stated in a previous article, the leaders of TWI have had their authority from God suspended, because they have preferred
to follow their new master satan instead.
Legal Disclaimer: This posting is my personal opinion and is protected by the 1st ammendment.
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Someone who was in TWI told me that they were reamed for leading someone into tongues and not making the person wait to do it "right" in session 12.
This was a person who had waited months and there was still no class running in their area.
When led into manifesting spirit, they were set free and overcome with joy.Why would anyone make someone wait for that?
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In various readings and what people have told me about this TWI cult, I heard something that I consider horrible and despicable.
Is it true that people were discouraged from leading people into salvation until session 12? Were they really made to wait till the end of the class? Say it's not so...
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Rosie's handwritten note about the McMullen trial
in About The Way
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