Granted, Given, Accepted

[satori001]

Note to moderators (if necessary): everybody watches the news, and few really follow politics. In an effort to bring political influences in TV news out into the "open," the best place for doing so at Greasespot is probably the Open forum.

This thread does not take a political position, but rather it makes an observation, several observations, with maybe more to come. Rather than have a food fight over who is more "biased," let's agree for discussion's sake, here and now, on the record, that Fox is the MOST biased of all. And that's pretty biased!

The examples below illustrate that while the NY Times, CNN, CBS, and CNN again, may not be as BIASED as Fox, we may still ask, are they also biased, and if so, how much less so than the worst of all (Fox)?

This is about TV news and life, not the particular political views. Again, it warrants the Open Forum, rather than either of the two mostly overlooked forums wherein political discussion is relegated.

Lastly, to those who would pepper this thread with examples of Fox or "Faux" News, please don't. We already know how bad THEY are. After all, we hear about it all the time, on CNN, CBS, and read about it in the NY Times. Moreover, Fox News doesn't even try to hide it. They are conservative. This is about the other guys...

Why Paul Krugman is a pessimist (for now):

CNN reporting the facts, just add water and stir

Andy to Dan: "Shhhh, don't be so obvious"

Surge strategy? Bull?

Another Israeli perspective, er, "good points, obviously battle lines are drawn between journalists as well." Really? Battle lines?

Edited April 26, 2007 by satori001

[Cynic]

Satori,

That Fox guy clearly has biases that go with being a right-wing Republican with a cushy income, but why do you have to be so vicious and mean-spirited that you pick on a gutsy female CNN reporter who is apparently so gifted with judicious composure and analytical abilities that she reports that “President Bush didn’t just drink the Kool-Aid; he made it....”?

Edited April 27, 2007 by Cynic

[Zshot]

I think that it boils down to is that the "reporters" on the news shows have stopped reporting the news. They editorilize the news. Reporters have stopped trying to get the news, they want to "get the story".

CNN, Fox, NBC, CBS etc... are big business. They are after ratings and readership. Of course, what they are most interested in is advertising dollars. Some advertisers prefer some formats more than others. that is why we have "different flavors" of "the news".

There are alot of people who turn to a certain news channel because of the bias of the news channel reflects and thereby justifies the viewers own bias.

[WhiteDove]

This thread does not take a political position, but rather it makes an observation, several observations, with maybe more to come. Rather than have a food fight over who is more "biased," let's agree for discussion's sake, here and now, on the record, that Fox is the MOST biased of all. And that's pretty biased!

Yeah but hardly a fair and balanced one you assume that your opinion regarding fox news is the truth. Lets agree that CNN is more biased.

[washingtonweather]

well, I don't think any of them are fair. As far as I am concerned they are all promoting an agenda...It is instrinisic in the delievery

[satori001]

Satori,

That Fox guy clearly has biases that go with being a right-wing Republican with a cushy income, but why do you have to be so vicious and mean-spirited that you pick on a gutsy female CNN reporter who is apparently so gifted with judicious composure and analytical abilities that she reports that “President Bush didn’t just drink the Kool-Aid; he made it....”?

I report, you decide.

Yeah but hardly a fair and balanced one you assume that your opinion regarding fox news is the truth. Lets agree that CNN is more biased.

As long as we agree that Fox is the most biased.

Edited April 28, 2007 by satori001

[Cynic]

By asserting the Fox News guy has “biases” and labeling him a “right-wing Republican,” while characterizing the CNN fem as “gutsy,” I was, of course, satirically playing the Democrats’ advocate – attempting to illustrate a (mis)labeling tactic used by Democrat operatives to smear critics and make supporters into seemingly respectable figures.

Satori,

Your avatar looks familiar. Were you once president of a National Organization for Women chapter? A waitress in a Unitarian Universalist coffee shop?

Edited April 28, 2007 by Cynic

[satori001]

By asserting the Fox News guy has “biases” and labeling him a “right-wing Republican,” while characterizing the CNN fem as “gutsy,” I was, of course, satirically playing the Democrats’ advocate – attempting to illustrate a (mis)labeling tactic used by Democrat operatives to smear critics and make supporters into seemingly respectable figures.

Satori,

Your avatar looks familiar. Were you once president of a National Organization for Women chapter? A waitress in a Unitarian Universalist coffee shop?

I am not not, nor have I ever been... though I am often mistaken for non-celebrities.

Satirize away, but always, never forget who is most biased.

[RottieGrrrl]

Did I just hear right? Did that one guy call the Chicago Tribune a liberal newspaper?? THE TRIBUNE?

[satori001]

Did I just hear right? Did that one guy call the Chicago Tribune a liberal newspaper?? THE TRIBUNE?

Probably meant the other paper.