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Hi Taxidev! R&R has NOT and NEVER WILL “shed all that crap”. I personally know almost every one of those hypocrites you mention. They are not one whit better than wierwille, rivenbark, or da forehead. Many are just as “dirty” in their personal lives as dictor paul, and “rightly dividing” da woid is as far from what they’ve done for the last 40 years as The First Church of Satan...LOL! Especially Boob and Doodie MoneyHands, who have wrecked almost as many lives as the “presidents” of that Ohio cowpie minus-tray. Same with Fort & The Horneys. That is why I asked you why you thought they were such “great men of gawd” several weeks ago. That just does not compute with those of us who have known these Pharisees since 1970, before most of them were even in da vey. They faithfully carried out all the cult BS their “presidents” ordered. They did so with evil glee. Some of us KNOW FIRSTHAND how many hundreds of lives and scores of marriages they ruined in the almost 50 years while in the belly of the cult. Same thing with Fort who got to where he is ONLY because he married Cindy Allen, Coward Allen’s daughter. That’s it. He was a cruel dude, just like MoneyHands and Horney. They were all lapdogs for all 3 presidents of TWIt. That is the truth and the FACTS. i am glad that your time here at GSC has provided you with genuine facts so that you can make informed decisions regarding what you choose to believe. I look forward to continued input from you as to the “biblical research, teaching and fellowship” climate and reality in TWIt these days. They don’t come here often, except for Fatboy Linder, their official spy. Thanks for sharing, and...........peace.

Wow ... Rocky ... I just finished watching this and it was amazing to me the clear parallels to TWI. I even took notes, I was so struck by the uncanny similarities! The things I bolded are almost identical WAY stuff (imo): “A fun fact that all cults share is that they reject the label ‘cult.’ Even now 16 years since I left, my parents will give me a list of reasons why the Assembly was not a cult. So fine. It wasn’t a cult. It was an evangelical, fundamentalist, non-denominational, religious fringe group whose charismatic leader could do whatever it wanted, but it wasn’t a cult! . . . Because we had many mainstream religious beliefs. We wanted to return to the simple life of the early Christians.” Not sure how early … but also, ‘Do women really need equality’? So I guess, post Augustine, but pre-feminist early Christians.” “My grandparents, George and Betty [Victor and Dotsie] were in charge. George [Victor] was a fantastic public speaker, a charismatic leader, and an abusive, narcissistic pathological liar.” “The Assembly targeted college-aged kids, vulnerable because they’re on their own for the first time and they’re looking for a community, a place where they can connect with other people.” “Cults don’t want to be defined as a cult, because it empowers its members to take a critical look at it. Language in cults is controlled because language is powerful. {Ho-Ho Relo; Happy Household Holidays, just to name a couple.] This happens in the “real world” too. Despite what 98% of our world’s scientists say, let’s not call it ‘climate change’.” “Training homes [Way Homes] were the Assembly’s communal living homes where groups of people would live with an elder, his wife and kids. Basically, it was a super fun way of making sure we had no free time. [And a great way to have live-in housekeepers, cooks, baby sitters and grocery shoppers]!" "Cults are all consuming. They don’t allow their members to invest in a life outside of the group.” [You don't need full time jobs or careers -- unless it's window washing! -- or to go to school to develop a career; spreading the word over the world IS your "career" -- you're CORPS!] “When I left ... I started to see how small my world view really was. [Ain't that the truth! It took months of therapy to begin to even have an inkling in this regard!] … In a cult, when you leave you’re shunned. [Corps loyalty pledge or else "excommunication"; "Mark and Avoid" BS] Women, children and people of color were second-class citizens. There was emotional and psychological abuse, and there was also physical abuse [rampant sexual abuse]." “It takes a lot of work to unlearn behaviors after you leave something like that. And it was hard. There was a lot of questioning the paradigm I’d been raised to believe. [I felt like I was on the verge of an almost undefined, emotional breakdown of sorts for the first couple of months "out" ... or FREE, as she spoke of here: "But I can tell you that even the hardest day of freedom was better than the best day in a cult.” “Comedy for me is the best way for me to take ownership of my past.” I have a friend who also spent years in TWI who I visit now and then, and he has an uncanny ability to make insanely funny jokes about the experiences we both had in TWI ... and so in a sense, that helps me "take ownership of my past" through humor!! This was really cool to "stumble" on today, Rocky, as I haven't visited this site in months. Thanks so much for posting it!

This looks like the Assembly she spoke of, started by George and Betty Geftakys http://www.apologeticsindex.org/1553-george-geftakys-assembly