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    How hard would it be for you to leave, right now?

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    Wayward:

    You know it would raise some suspicions without a doubt. I would think that they would "ask" (really TELL) you to change it. Anything to cover their @$$.

    I knew someone who was in the Corps and got booted. This person told me the in-rez corps were grumbling about the way things were after the lcm lawsuit. The Corps coord, G**g B******k had a meeting telling them they could bring whatever they wanted out to be discussed. I think I mentioned this in another thread. The point is that they were told they could bring things up, and then got their @$$E$ kicked for doing so. One guy didn't get answers (I'm sure because the questions had too many legal liabilities behind them), so he wrote rozilla a letter. He got booted from the corps shortly thereafter. What does rozilla hide? I want to find this guy to talk to him.

    Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow, it empties today of its strength.

    How hard would it be for you to leave, right now?

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    Quote from Cherished Child:

    quote:
    Anyway, one of your posts on this thread mentions that copies of one of the "new policy memos" read during fellowships was not made available to you because they are "copywrited documents". I just had to laugh. It appears that Rosie and the BOD have learned their painful lesson from the Waydale era well.

    Waydale is the exact reason for the copyright on all their documents. When I was on Staff, we were told we didn't have to fill out vacation itinerary forms anymore, but we still had to provide our itinerary on our own format.

    Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow, it empties today of its strength.

    Be not Unequally Yoked with Unbelievers

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    quote:
    A couple of times I did try and cut back my time with them, but I did usually start hanging out with them more and more again. What was I to do? I didn't have an innie in my age group in our area and most folks were married anyway. I had a few single people my parents age that I could hang with.

    Lindy that is so sad. I feel for young adults when this happens. It is so sad especially during times like high school when it is so important to have a social life with people your own age.

    TWI claims that your needs can be met in their beloved household. I say Bulls*it!! Look at how many single women there are (over-aged at that) because there are not enough single "believer" men for them to marry. The needs of people are not met in their beloved household!! It makes me mad, mad, mad!!!

    How hard would it be for you to leave, right now?

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    I never heard about this memo either. I didn't even hear that the ministry's position on debt changed either. I think what you hear depends on what area you are in (like-minded my @$$!!). I left in December 2002, maybe I missed this. Although I do know someone who asked their FC about the policy on debt, and they were told there never was a policy on debt (liar, liar, pants on fire).

    TWI thinks that people don't talk. At the ACS, that's all people did--compared notes. Maybe more will start smartening up to realize that there is something stinking in NK, and it might be Rozi.

    What got you to make the decision to leave?

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    The support that the trustees gave lcm after knowing that he was a sexual predator sickened me. They allowed him to continue to be president for a whole year after knowing about it. They didn't take actions until they were at risk for being sued. This showed me they cared more about money than people. They haven't changed; they are still the same today. Otherwise they would come out on public forum to apologize to all people hurt by their previous president's actions. They would acknowledge he was an obsessed nazi from hell. Their silence proves their guilt.

    How hard would it be for you to leave, right now?

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    I recently left, but I don't have family in. I have a boyfriend in. We have had a lot of conflict because of it.

    I remember a past post of someone mentioning a possibility that some innies want to leave but don't because of family members. In the same light, those family memebers want to leave but don't because of family also. Maybe some family should just communicate how they really feel. It might spark some great things for them all. It would be quite ironic if everyone wanted to leave but didn't because of each other. It doesn't hurt to just mention your curiosities.

    I was called by an innie last night!

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    I had a similar experience with an innie friend of whom I had not told about my departure from twi. She instant messaged me, and I told her that she should know that I wasn't "in" anymore. She asked if she could call me. I said yes.

    I wasn't surprised by her. She questioned me, and I told her I just saw too much crap and that I didn't believe the crap about the true household or Eve having a lesbian experience. Her response to me was "Well, did you go back and research it for yourself?" I told her it was too ridiculous to even consider it truth and it didn't take a very smart person to figure that out. I also told her to consider the teacher and his life-style. Honestly, we all should have laughed our @$$es off when we heard that stupid teaching. I'm sure she thought I was just using that for an excuse, but I didn't and don't care. She means well, and she is convinced she is in the best ministry in the world. Good for her if she believes that. I'm not trying to convince her otherwise. But if she ever questions things, I'm pretty sure I'll be the first she calls. Then I can tell her LOTS!!! I'll be here for her. icon_biggrin.gif:D-->

    adultery vs. soul stealing

    in About The Way

    Posted

    Oldies Man:

    quote:
    My view is that genuine healing comes from God and Christ, not forums on Greasespot Cafe. "He sent his word, and healed them". Forums on GS are full of varying opinions and debate, and as long as folks like myself are respectful to others, we are (or should be) able to post dissenting opinions without worrying about offending others. Those are the GS rules.

    You are right, healing does come from the God, but sometimes you have to realize that talking about things helps people to realease also. The Word of God does not refute this.

    I guess that you should consider this thread a party you haven't been invited to.

    Sorry, I'm not meaning to sound rude. Even if you are within the guidelines of GS, you are not helping. Consider that. The jist of this thread is not the things you are talking about. If you are trying to make a point to help these women, then fine. But you aren't. Can you see that?

    There once was a girl from Nantucket....

    adultery vs. soul stealing

    in About The Way

    Posted

    Oldies:

    Some times you need to just keep your opinions to yourself on a thread like this. These women who had these experiences need this to help in healing. Ex hasn't talked much about this, and she is entitled to talk about it without anybody else trying to discredit any aspect what she is saying.

    I used to be like you. Now I am more understanding because I realized I haven't walked in their shoes and that not everybody would react to a situation the same way I would.

    So I guess I'm saying that compassion is in order here instead of arguing (discussing--whatever you want to call it).

    You said earlier:

    quote:
    I think that if one wanted to, one can make a case that everyone born on this earth has been a victim.

    It all depends upon your point of view...

    Again, I say that you haven't walked in their shoes, therefore, it is impossible to determine victimization. Everybody is different. I know I've been in a few situations that would be described as victimization. I didn't feel that way, but it doesn't mean that someone else would feel the same. It's all in the heart of the person.

    Example: You say something to someone and they take it the wrong way. You don't realize that you affected the person that way until they express their hurt or anger. A compassionate response would be to say sorry, you didn't mean to sound the way it was taken. It allows you to move on.

    Let these women move on. Thanks.

    There once was a girl from Nantucket....

    Sirguessalot from the Wild, Wild West

    in Friend Tracker

    Posted

    Steve!

    I was born and raised there. I lived in Klamath Falls until 1984 (went WOW to Texas). Moved back to Oregon in 1988 (to Portland). Lived in Portland a few times between 1988 and now.

    I'm a webfoot, and darn proud of it! I'd live there now, but I just love So. California weather too much (it was 80 degrees today)!

    There once was a girl from Nantucket....

    Sirguessalot from the Wild, Wild West

    in Friend Tracker

    Posted

    Sir,

    I am positive I know you from the wild, wild west. I used to live in Oregon. If you are who I think you are, I haven't seen you since Word in Business 1996 (before you went to Gunnison). I wondered what happened to you. It seemed so sudden at the time; but considering all I know about TWI now, it makes perfect sense. I remembered you as a very tender-hearted guy.

    You can email me at wayferlookin@yahoo.com if you like.

    There once was a girl from Nantucket....

    Monica Renfrow

    in Friend Tracker

    Posted

    Larry, Quin, and Larry left HQ a few years ago to live in Toledo. I saw Larry and Larry at the ACS last November. I never knew Monica, so I don't know where she is. But as far as her family, they could still be in.

    There once was a girl from Nantucket....

    Excuses for Skipping Witnessing Night

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    Wayward,

    Are you really required to go? I LOATHED mandetory things--suggestion tantamount to a command. If you don't go, you are questioned.

    What about witnessing reports? Someone else mentioned this on a thread a few weeks back. The purpose of it: so HP could "believe" with the ones witnessing. Sounds to me like twi is shrinking, $$$$ are shrinking, and maybe napkinlady will see her wish: Fold TWI! Fold!

    Regarding witnessing reports: Did they ask anyone if they WANTED to do that? I loathed witnessing reports too! I hated getting that call or email saying: "Did you forget your witnessing report?; You know, I need those no later than blah, blah, blah." Nobody ever asked me if I WANTED to do a stupid report.

    I knew of one situation where someone brought in their witnessing report on paper. It was brought in time, but the fellowdang coordinator reproved them saying she wanted it emailed. The person told her they didn't like email (they aren't a technical person and had problems in the past with their email). The fellowdang coordinator came on strong to this person until he gave in and said OK. Poor fool. I was listening in the other room, and wanted to kicker her A$$!!! Nazi B*tch!! I wished I would have stood up against her for this poor fool. Sorry I didn't.

    There once was a girl from Nantucket....

    Excuses for Skipping Witnessing Night

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    Just say: "I don't want to". It works in their faux kinder gentler attitude, but you have to be prepared to answer questions for inquiring minds that want to know (GAWD I hated that!!). What are they going to do? Kick you out? That would be no big deal. Hopefully you don't have a husband who has an inquiring mind. You know how the people in your area are. It worked for me.

    There once was a girl from Nantucket....

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