Nottawayfer

I liked watching her on TV after I first left TWI. I went to see her in San Diego about 4 years ago. I got disgusted because she said that you wouldn't get anything out of her ministry if you didn't support it financially.

I know him. I used to deal with his wife a lot while she was interior design. She wasn't nice. He seemed ok-but I never had to deal with him much.

I worked with her as well. She left Interior Design to work in Printing Services with her husband. We worked side-by-side. I actually enjoyed knowing her. I worked at HQ for 3 years before working with her, and I thought she was stuck up. I think she's just not a overtly sociable kind of person. When you get to know her, she's a lovely person. At least that was my experience. I don't want to discredit anyone else's experiences.

This same lady told me that she knew a woman who was distressed over having sex with VPW. She told me this right after the LCM fiasco happened. Her thoughts were "Do you leave the Word just because someone did something wrong?" My thoughts right now are "HELL Yes!!" We all know leaving The Way does not equate with leaving the Word (whatever that means ) or leaving God. I sure wish some of the good ones still in could figure that out.

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The guy in the yellow scarf used to be my boss.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha aha ha ha ha ha haha

Excie, do you know him? He's been at HQ for over 25 years.

Those outfits are TERRIBLE!!! The guy in the yellow scarf used to be my boss.

It's a momentous time to be in the household of The Wonderful Way International!

Where's that barfing emoticon? How long until they don't have anymore material to rehash?? Gawd!

It is monumental IMHO that the girl testafied. There was another girl here in Mohave County who was pressured by her family and refused to testify. They held her in custody. I don't know what became of it. Those girls must be in terrible turmoil to be raised like that. They probably think there is nothing outside the life they know.

Every once in awhile I see a few in our County building when I am heading out for lunch, and most of the women I see look older. I haven't seen the really young ones. They probably keep them at home to elude scrutiny. What a shame this culture has been for girls.

Fair and balanced???? Here's my suggestion I sent in an email to them:

"Since "Jesus Christ Is Not God" is such a cornerstone of the beliefs of The Way International, don't you think it is deceptive to not mention it in your "fair and balanced" view of the organization?

You don't even mention it in your book list. It would only be honest to mention that to those looking at this "fair and balanced" look at The Way International."

He said some things I'd like to smash his face in for. He's encouraging human slavery among cabinet.

Most Way Corps who thought they were God's elite compared to the lowly believer practiced human slavery. I wonder what BM's peers think of him? If he is going to be another Craig Martindale, the poor people who are still scared to leave TWI are in for yet ANOTHER rollercoaster ride.

Maybe this could be the final fall for TWI......I can only hope and pray.

google.com has been an EXCELLENT source to find information. I would NEVER give it up. It's easier to look up something by googling it than to pick up the darn phonebook (small print is hard to read and I refuse to get reading glasses yet). The internet is a great way to stay in touch with folks I don't call regularly, and it's a great way to share pictures with my family in a quick manner.

Give it up?? NO WAY!!

Goshdarnitanyhow! I missed it. The link now says it was removed for a copyright claim.

Sorry to hear that. I will definitely pray for resolve.

(((((Abbi and Sushi))))

Well, Ms Notta, aren't you just the bevvy of information? You never cease to amaze me. :)

None of the links work on her site, though. :( I was gonna order something. If she cooks half as good as she sings, it would be awesomely decadent.

Health reasons, eh? I guess TWI can't have someone on the payroll who's gonna be submitting lots of doctor bills or needing - gasp - help. I reckon they had to get her out "one the field" before they started losing money on her.

So loving how they take care of their own, isn't it?

Here's another link with ordering information. Royal Bakery Order Information

We had Mormon missionaries come to our door a few months ago. I was pleasant. I just said, "We prefer more traditional Christianity. We are not interested in becoming Mormon."

I thought the anniversary is 2 weeks away. It is usually the first Sunday of October, unless I've been gone so long that I don't care to remember!!

I'm most definitely sure she's still in. It was an assignment for her to go to this area after her time at HQ.

Our chocolate lab, Hershey, had a tumor in the roof of his mouth 2 1/2 years ago. When his symptoms starting getting to the point his life wasn't good anymore, we had to make the decision to put him down. It is a hard decision to make, but I think letting him go to a place of no pain was more loving even though I would miss him. I still miss him today, but I don't regret my decision.

My husband made a wonderful tribute to Hershey with a great picture of him rolling his back in the grass. He had the picture blown up, mounted on lovely matting and put both of his collar tags on either side of the picture. It is a wonderful way to remember him and how much he loved to be in the grass.

(((((Maxx, WG, and Family)))))

Sounds awesome Bow! I'm so glad you found some place to enjoy. I'm even more excited for your freedom!

Gosh, just the mention of the the test for the Advanced Class. I forgot all about that. That was crazy to take a test to determine if you were able to go to the Advanced Class. I remember it taking a whole day. Then when I got to the class, I wondered how some of those people made it. I guess that was just my own arrogance based on that stupid test. I'm glad I forgot most of that crap now.

Happy 40th Patriot!

Hello all. I am just curious as to where most people go to fellowship after the Way. I joined a nondenomanational church last year,because I really missed the fellowship and studying the word.

I find myself taking what I need ,and trying not to pay too much attention to the things I know aren,t the truth.(ya know,the whole jesus is God thing). It was either that, or continue to isolate myself because I knew better. I never hide the truth, but I do not volunteer much either.Not best I know,but what am I to do? Any suggestions?I am so blessed that you are all here,Doug Simerly.(I will keep your name private,but as for me,what the heck)

Hi Doug,

I used to live in Portland. I know your brother and his family very well. Welcome to the cafe! I left twi almost 5 years ago, and life is good.

I've been to some wonderful churches since leaving, and I don't let the whole trinity thing get to me. I think TWI's doctrine about JC didn't put him in the place he needed to be. I've learned a lot more about my Lord and Saviour since attending churches. Jesus has much more meaning to me. He is the Head of the Church, right? I don't think he's absent.

i was just trying to be creative. I felt like I had used the word blessed so damn much at the advanced class, i was sick of it.

Create was one of the bad words too if you were referring to you or somone else being that way. I"m so glad I don't have to be so anal about word usage anymore.

Merry Christmas everyone!

From what you posted above, it sounds like they were planning a mass departure in advance of the letter sent out by Lcm.

I still have friends who fellowship with Doug S*ed in California, whom I'm working with to enlighten their understanding regarding the old twi system and doctrine that they're still under, what kind of leader is he really? They would probably say that S*ed deserves a home paid for by the people under him, seeing as they still buy into the hierarchy system.

They all seem to be afraid of what is to be learned from this website. Apparently it is very threatening to them.

Are the leadership there really trying to hide what went on at Hq's and Geer's involvement with it?

After my stint in Northern California in the late 80s early 90s, I went back to TWI because I thought it was the "real" ministry. (Go ahead and laugh.)

Through my time in TWI, I ended up in San Diego, and that is where I lived when I decided to finally leave TWI for the final time. I tried a CES fellowship; CFF had no fellowship in SD, so I went to a fellowship (recommended by W*yne Cl*pp since CFF had nothing) put on by these people: http://www.sdbiblicalstudies.com/. Doug Seed was a special invite to that meeting, and it was like being in a fellowship back in the 80s, and I literally wanted to GAG! The worhsip of VPW and the other original trustees was nauseating to me. It happened to be "Uncle Harry Day", and they were recognizing him. I had been on Greasespot by that point, and I knew enough about how Uncle Harry and VPW treated young women was despicable. The reverence and praise for these men's lives was an abomination in my mind.

These people all knew I recently left TWI, and they offered no support or shoulder to lean on. It was this GSC cyber community that gave me the support I really needed. They only offered for me to come to fellowship. It was then that I realized I did not want anything TWI-related ever again. I left that meeting disappointed and hurt, but it was the best thing that ever happened to me. Those people seem to hide under a rock when it comes to discussing past wrongs in TWI. They want to believe VPW was truly THE Man of God. They want to believe his ministry was ordained by God. That same group also promotes Geer's classes.

I wonder what it feels like to be Craig Martindale. Does he go to church? Does he lead a fellowship in his home? Is he on Match.com? Does he ever get to go home to HQ? Does he have any remorse about so many years of abusing power? Does he even realize what he's done, and what level of harm he caused? Do you think God forgives even him?

I have a friend who actually went to his efficiency apartment and talked to him. They said he doesn't feel he did anything wrong. So I guess he doesn't realize what he's done, and he won't be asking Gof for forgiveness either. It must suck to be him.

and since all four kids were breast fed until they were 5 years old

5 years old??? You are kidding right? :blink: