Ginger Tea

...for your kind words!

You are all so thoughtful.

This has been a difficult time but we are making some progress ~

We are going to have a quiet holiday this year...and I hope it will allow some healing.

Thanks to all who wrote these posts, and those who sent cards, and e-mails, and the private topics too...and the phone calls ~ I cherish the moments you have all given to my tiny family!

With Much Love,

Ginger

Thanks Chewy xo

IT,

You don't come here often, you've said...that means more to me than you could ever imagine...I needed that because the ones I know the best, could not relate. You make up for this loss in ways I can't describe yet.

It's something how things work out.

Ginger

xoxo

...to each and every one of you for your touching replies.

I wasn't going to write about it ~ now. I'm relieved I did.

We can't ever be sure of exactly how we'll be affected by anothers departure...but one thing I feel is sure...there is a process we all must go through.

I'll keep your open invitations to aid this process in mind...and just knowing you care and have related this to me with such warmth and sincerity...has been supportive and encouraging.

Thanks for understanding from the bottom of my heart.

Ginger

Hearts knit plus action works!

Yes?

How simple nature really is...

Love,

Ginger

I lost this Guy...

We were parents together.

He's gone now...and a certain part of me goes with him.

I never loved anyone quite like him.

I probably won't again.

I'm not asking for prayers for me ~

I do need positive thoughts and your prayers for our child though...

who grieves more than I think I can handle. But I will handle it.

Please think strengthening thoughts for my child....to be alright soon...to put this in a good place...as her Dad was too young to die.

Thanks,

Ginger

xo

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I am thinking (and feeling) positive, loving thoughts about you today ~ and will continue to, as well as AHAT, and all that write their needs in this forum...

Better days and ways do materialize.

Our acknowledments make it happen...

With Love,

Ginger

...of course he did.

For the sake of everyone that also believed like him, I hope they change ~

and thought, it may be a good test for yourself on utilizing your realizations to protect yourself and also, feel secure about where you're at... if you want closure and to see people.

If you really want to 'live and let live' ... you may be surprised to find that their cultish behaviors won't hurt you ... they might bore you ... but you'll be okay.

If you want 'out' ~ you can give that to yourself to.

There may be someone there who knows about a job, or also feels the way you do ... you won't know if you don't go ... but that doesn't mean you have to go either.

You can still make what you want to happen for yourself, no matter where they are at.

TWI doesn't make the rules for your life anymore, so, go have fun... or stay away and see a great movie instead!

Like you said, you get to decide.

I'm just checking in to share some thoughts with you tonight.

I guess I'll relay it in the first person, so I don't sound preachy...because it's not my intention at all (but I'll fail talking on this level anyhow, lol).

*Myself, and *others I'm sure

( I knew I could get around this somehow...smile)

...were taught growing up and thru religious mis-information, that having bad experiences or feeling bad emotionally were somehow wrong

...even as bad as adversarial (as in demonic ~ that sounds ALOT like the Way and other outer fringe places) as well.

What I have been thinking seriously about 'AGAIN' in my own personal life is...

...the bad experiences are necessary for the most part ~ in order for us to know what to change, what to do next, or if there is a problem to begin with or the blessed release of one.

I don't really know anyone that learned more about life or themselves through only having good experiences.

I really don't.

I know people who have had little difficulties and I am interested and reasonably attracted to those people ~ I've also observed (and actually know) where some others are attracted to people who have more bad experiences then good ones...ever notice that?

This is not a judgement call on either because I think everyone really does what they have to do until they don't need to do it anymore...say, like in having certain relationships, or a preventable illness (there are a few, but this is certainly not implying anything about yours or mine...I'm refering to self-destructive tendancies and self-ignorance, and that stuff).

My point is...if we didn't have heartache or difficulties...or unpleasant situations...or mistakes to correct...whatever...how would we know what to do to create a better, more satisfying life for ourselves?

How would we know what we need to correct rather, or who to let go of because it's time, or where to move on to if we fear or resist or deny we may be experiencing difficulty?

It's not BAD for us...because things may feel bad, I'm thinking.

It's probably alot worse to go through this life avoiding our problems (as they would likely increase in frequency and severity) or denying they exist (which is such a waste because we would only delude ourselves) or worse to me...not feeling them at all...how would we GROW UP and become healthy and wholesome emotionally if we cut-off the part that needs the most healing, you know?

I have had another experience this past week that reminded me how precious it is to acknowledge difficulties...because if we don't, there just might be a time it's too late to change anything, or one might become so cut-off, they just give-up...or become immune to recognition or change, you know?

I feel grateful that our emotions and our physical bodies signal us when something needs our attention.

I feel sorry for those that avoid the experiences when they are hitting them over the head to pay attention to their actions or health...emotional as well as every other level.

I lost another person in my life who feared facing difficulties this week...and caved-in to denial and avoidance instead.

I wanted to share that with you because I know you are the opposite.

You have everything you need somehow now and also ahead of you ... on so many levels.

I needed to say this to you.

I needed to say it for myself too.

You are really the one living...and you are where you are supposed to be for what comes next in your life, 'm thinking, like myself and others who are aware of what is happening to them...at any given time.

There is solace in that, yes?

It will be okay no matter what because you are still alive (that's a plus in my book, lol...another time, long story) and doing whatever you have to in preparation for ~ what comes next...no avoidance, no denial, no numbness, no ignorance.

I think that's the good part.

Something blissful will follow because you are conscious of both sides of the coin now.

I hope people acknowledge half as much as you do ~ at least that ~ who want to live wholesome lives after twi ~ and realize that it takes EVERYTHING one has got inside, not just the good...(that's make-believe)...to work on better outcomes.

You know the difference.I hope you will be authoring your happiness very soon...there is a time for every purpose...you know the rest.

Take Care,

Ginger

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Does he have a ministry?

I'm curious about Jerry for my own personal reasons...not because I'd join him, for sure.

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Thanks CoolWaters.

I remember about a 15 year old who shot her brains out while visiting her sisters house for the summer...her Mom died the year before.

There are thousands of these types of stories. People, especially the young, feeling isolated and helpless...and in pain.

We all need to tell young people...'show' rather...that we care...that we can listen and with-hold judgement...that their life will get better ....

... if only they can get ahold of someone's hand today

... someone who cares

... we need to learn and more importantly, LISTEN for the warning signs!

Kit,

Sex education and suicide education IS for prevention...not encouragement!

IF it's failing... it needs to be revised... it's too important to put back in the closet... but it certainly needs an 'overhaul'.

Ginger

So, you give me these pictures of some shet-kickers to what????? To put up around MY HOUSE!!!

And scare the kiddies!!!!

What's yo' problem?

TWI...or any other CULT #1,2,3 or twenty thousand ~ "fa get about it!"

btw, those pictures do look like the ones at the post office ~ you know, on the bulletin board...the most wanted ~ unwanted!

Hi Seth,

Happy Thankgiving and all to you ~

Ginger

xo

IT????

What is IT????

IT's that bug that crawls up some people's a$$es!!!!

Did I get it?

(not IT as in up my own a$$)

(;

Hi Vic ~

Some years ago I started a gratitude journal.

On each page ~ or half, if you have a wonderful journal and want to save space like I do this year...(; ... you list 5 things you are grateful for, right?

Years ago, when I started, my attitude of gratitude wasn't as refined ~ or should I say, 'clear on' what gratitude really is ~ thanksgiving ~

I used to search around to fill in those 5 little lines, always grateful for my child, a home, work...friends...abilities...all the 'given's'

Over the years that's grown...from having bad days where I'd had little to contribute to gratitude, where I'd say, it rained today ~ (someone might be glad)...or things like birds or butterflies were eating or flying around something or other...

Over the years ~

Trips to libraries were replaced by book buying of my favorite authors and new ones, having my own library of sorts now, as well...

Weather ~ was able to be seen for the intricate part it plays in our daily lives, not for a lack of something else I wasn't able to focus on ~ about our life ~ why question, right?...be thankful we can breathe...

Friends..having them doesn't matter in quite in same way as being one does, I've begun to see...

Family...well, no choice there...but making the wrongs right, doing the best for anyone who asks or needs...kinda makes up for all the crap families look like they bring when gratitude for being born in one isn't acknowledged, yes?

Work...pays the freight and then some...and thankfully, is changable for the flexible person...

Everything matters...when we take time to notice...especially the little things.

What seeds are you planting?

How does your garden grow?

What wonderful returns come back to you for the efforts...

Thanks for a THANKSGIVING thread Vic ~

THANKS ~ GIVING

This whole concept (embracing it) makes my life much more real, so vivid, and brings depth and understanding...and awe to most things that come in my path.

I think my journal today might add that some more may benefit (it's only a day away to making such a commitment as to be thankful for only 5 things a day) from what gratitude really is...a life enhansing tool for CHANGE, improvement, replenishment, and rejuvination...among other things.

Love & Happy Thankgiving to You and Yours,

Ginger

if it's in your area

are the cool 'used' tape, book, cd, dvd, even album ~ exchanges...you can buy or trade.

Hey, if anyone is looking for a cool hobby or new small business venture...while you won't get rich (unless someone's trading in some rare first editions or such)...this could be a pleasurable experience for a part-timer...your overhead isn't much, a garage or renting part (such and such sq. ft.) of a shoppe and other than a good filing system, a computer, a few shelves (do it yourself types)...you could get busy...put in some ads in the free penny savers or send out flyers...word gets around quick...and you'll have a hands on hobby ~

anyway, sorry for the choo-choo

Well, you could tape it next time it's on tv if you can't find it anywhere...although a phone call to a video store might produce a copy...hmmmm...Forrest Tucker with Rosalind!!!!

I was very young when I saw Ann Miller play Auntie 'MAME' on Broadway...it is one of my all time fav's too!

Good luck..if I come across one way out here ~ I'll let you know!

xo

...a Planetarium instead! (;

To the Sane One!

(;

xo

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