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    White Dove

    in Open

    Posted

    Dearest Doveman ~

    So sorry I missed the big day. Please accept my belated greetings and wishes for a wonderful year ahead!

    You are truly a man of great heart and love which show in all your posts. Thanks for adopting all of us "birdbrains" as your family.

    Hugs,

    Dovinero :) :love3:

    Laddie, The Sudo's white scottie

    in Prayers Complete / Praises

    Posted

    Suda and Sudo!

    Glad to hear the surgery today went well. Poor little thing. Glad he's getting plenty of lovin. I was wondering how Jock was taking all this. Has he gotten to get up for a good look, sniff and kisses? I'm sure he misses playing with his brother. Hope the pins keep everything in place! Thanks for the update!

    J.

    Is the geerite following fading away?

    in About The Way

    Posted

    Groucho ~

    Earl has lived in VA (Charlottesville, I believe) for almost the entire time since leaving HQ. He's had a ministry thing going (don't remember the name) which he has done and partnered with Duke Clarke on many occasions (fellowships, special live seminars, youth camps). Of all the former leaders of twi, Earl at least, is one of the few who got right out an started working. He got his RE license and his family owns a very successful business there - - so at least he's one who has actually gotten a job.

    Walter lives in po-dunk Franklin, OH (in between Dayton and Cincinnati) and has had a "business" called Scripture Consulting from which he has published a journal of the same name. I saw some of the early versions (1998 or so) of the journal (you could subscribe for $78/year for 6 pretty lengthy issues) and it seems he was early on into the Gospels. He would go around and teach the local Geer-groups (for a fee), but I can't quite remember the name of the classes he was teaching except one was on the book of Job (correcting the phrase "the thing which I greatly feared has come upon me").

    Johnny T. lives in Beaverton, OH and is a gentleman farmer with a good amount of acreage. He has a number of local home groups he's associated with and is the ONLY one licensed in the entire state of OH to run Geer classes. Last I spoke with him, he thought all the other "former leaders" in OH were pretty screwed up (that opinion would probably be derived from them not being Geer-groups) (though the group in Columbus with T*m Burk*, K*n McC*w, et al seem to have flourished over the years with many never been way folks).

    That's my update from what I hear and know first-hand.

    J.

    Rosie, the woman of gawd

    in About The Way

    Posted

    Rummie ~

    I thought you were around still when lcm got "installed" as pres. There were all kinds of sharings by vpw at the time of the Elija/Elisha comparison. If I remember correctly, the Way Rag had a cover story with an article of Elija finding Elisha in the field and putting his mantle on him signifying the "transfer of leadership" or some such thing. vpw, in his over-the-top style though made the "installation" a freakin coronation - - and all the symbolism used were from the OT (very interesting in hind sight).

    Maybe someone has that issue of the Way rag and can scan it an post it (please put the gag warning on before doing so, though) :).

    J.

    i'm bummed

    in Open

    Posted

    Will definitely pray for your sweet angel dog. Isn't it great how things have a way of coming together? So glad to hear about the A/C and how nice the house is looking. You deserve it!

    Thanks for the update!

    Hugs~

    J.

    Happy Birthday Flow 7!!!

    in Open

    Posted

    Well, Flow...

    It's been more years than I care to count since I first met you and your sister in SoCal. Nice to re-connect with you here at GSC.

    Happy birthday to you. May it be a wonderful year ahead for you.

    J.

    Is the geerite following fading away?

    in About The Way

    Posted

    I can corroborate what Dove said. I was involved in the early days of the Geer tapes, classes, licensing. My ex and I also looked into the license and came to the same conclusion as Dove. We opted to provide original teachings and not recycle others' classes, etc.

    I was involved, as I said, with Geer groups in 4 different states. None of them made taking the classes a requirement. Nor did most require any allegience to CG. A few were more "wierwille worshippers" or CG "namedroppers" than others saying things like "Dr. this" and "Dr. said that" and would drop all their "interpretation according to someone's usage" stuff. Some kept in closer touch with CG than others and the "insiders" were very much into the same hierarchical "take the classes" bingo - - fill your card and you're better than everyone else cuz "I'VE HAD THE CLASS!!!!".

    For the most part, the fellowships were very casual, and the people were very sincere. I just got over the worship of men stuff when I left the Catholic Church and didn't buy into it too much in twi, so I would get the creeps in the geer groups when that stuff would come up. And many of those guys really treat women like crap. Some of them have stepford wives still so the mentality towards strong, bright, educated women was typically that we were "rebellious" or "needed to learn our place". Yes, massah.

    And I can vouch for Doug S. in Calif. on the family camps. You did not have to be in his group or any other offshoot group to attend any of the camps. They were just like a mini-ROA from the early days. Prett harmless and sweet. I've heard the same things about John Hill's camps.

    J.

    Total "membership" of splinter groups?

    in About The Way

    Posted

    Well, I started a list on the other thread. Let's add to it. If you add to the list, copy and paste the previous list and add to it (so WordWolf doesn't do it) ;)

    Geer groups:

    1. No. Calif: Doug Seed

    2. So. Calif: Dan Moran / about 100-150 a few years back

    So. Calif: Andy Zitelli / about 40-50

    3. San Diego: Bob Lindfelt

    4. Ohio: Johnny Townsend (only one licensed; others run the local groups) - 50ish

    5. Wisconsin: Howard Stein

    6. Indiana: Rich Watkins / about 50-60 in No. & Central IN

    7. Illinois: Naperville - Bob Cardin

    8. Illinois: Former Joe Guarini group: Now Joe Jr.? - - approx. 150?

    9. NJ: Jerry Carr

    10. AZ: Dave Standage / approx. 50

    11. Charlottesville, Virginia: Earl Burton

    12.

    CES/Spirit & Truth:

    Anyone know approx. #s and states?

    Christian Family Fellowship: John Shroyer & Wayne Clapp

    States????

    Vince Finnegan's group: don't know name

    Atlanta Bible Fellowship: Bo & Stanley Reahard

    Bibel Center: Wolfgang Schneider

    Austin, TX: Dean Ellenwood

    Columbus, Ohio: Tom Burke, et al

    Washington State: a lot of the Strauhals

    Washington, D.C. area: Bruce Mahone/ Tom Jenkinson / Ken McCaw

    http://www.cabsf.org/Home%20Fellowships.htm

    Tennessee: (whole bunch of folks down there; I forget the guy's name who does the family camp there every year, but know that Brian Bliss lives there and is involved)

    Well, that's a start. The rest of you fill in what you know. States, local areas, numbers, names. Maybe we can get a comprehensive list.

    J.

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