alfakat

"Don't toss out the bacon with the grease".

You heard it here first, folks, submitted for your consideration and use.

I herewith donate all profits and reward that is sure to flow like the rivers of the muddy Mississippi from this to the future construction of the Pork Memorial Cafeteria where pork products of all kinds can not only be seen and admired but consumed as they were meant to be. (minus my expenses of course, time X materials, say 15 per cent of any money's realized or gained both here and now and in the future and then to be transferred quarterly to the SocksWasHereAndRockedTheBoat Trust). (and use of the copyright symbol crediting me, socks, as the originator of the phase so that there need be no confusion or mistake, it's only fair). Other than that - it's yours!

Thank you.

Another round of bacon for the whole house, 6 slices apiece, home-cured and apple-smoked, on the alfakat. Enjoy, everyone. You're on your own for the eggs and toast, though I do recommend the San Francisco sourdough....... :P

That wasn't my intent at all, and sometimes intent is lost in cyberspace. My point was aimed at Victor Paul Wierwille and how he drew in youth only to steal their years. That is exactly what the way international did to me, in my prime, which is lost.

By Victor's Kids, I could have explained, I mean we were all told we were the special, the called out, the chosen ones. Not that anyone who happened to be caught in Vicky's snare was goofy. I assume this is your complaint, and wanted to offer an apology in case we were misunderstood.

not so much what you said but a general drift I felt towards lumping them all still together today, which they certainly no longer are....even in the early 80s they were not a unit that thought alike or were 100% behind the vicster...

just a point worth noting cuz it's so easy to think it was all monolithic back then and it wasn't

it's just that she sucks so much as a teacher (and she was a teacher, no?) that she has to make everyone else SUCK

when donna was younger and not married to rozie, she did some nice teachings

ahh, the old ball and chain, eh?!! muwahahahahahahaha ain't married life a bitch... :realmad:

alfie! i love you and have missed you!

love you madly, dear excie! check in rarely but still here....have you joined the FB version? I have, so you can always call me out over there and I will hear you....

sorry for derail....

seats open on SF Giants 2011 bandwagon....going fast.....

lotta good people there....no offense anyone, but those folks have all been out of the way for 25 years, some more. Quit seeing them as a group --they're NOT. some still into veepster, some definitely not, some dead fer krap's sake. Del Duncan f-ed up just like the rest of os but he was one of the true-est men I have ever known. I am sorry if you never knew him. Let's finally get beyond stereo-typing and pigeon-holing people, shall we?

What other thread, EVER, had a poster who tallied the number of posts each poster posted on THE??????? UN-FREAKING-Believable....you HAD to be there to have experienced THE life-form that THE became....it was, for me, the most wack thing ever on the internet. Maybe y'all have seen way weirder but THE was it for me...

makes me smile thinking about it :) :B)

I believe he was 6th corps.

ack-shoe-ali Steve and his then wife Bev were 5th korks,not sickkkppthhh korks.

Dot....praying for your Dad and you. This klown will be sorry he started somethin with your Dad...

I still think that Pawtuckets offer is incredibly generous--

and cant fathom why WD isnt jumping on it--

I can fathom...ole wd-40 would get real tired of him and 3 others chanting the praises of all that was w/ no opposition...

He, and his "like-minded" cohorts want to be here, ceaselessly bleating and braying about how we can't forget all the good they enjoyed in days of old while us complainers were missing out on the fun.

Yeah, right....but anyone who harshes their buzz has to be constantly reminded of the Bill of Rights and courtroom logic and all kinds of other totally irrelevant krappola, -- right, boys???

Their OWN site, muwahahahahahah, in a pigs eye, no way will they ever cease being gadflies fer da troof...

...I know, I could get a job at the mall in town on weekends, some nutball in the sickktppth corps had done it for his whole first year and no-one ever knew. Later that afternoon, I got in my car and was heading off campus to put in an application at the mall when I noticed my car was about out of gas and I sputtered to a stop right in front of Kenyon Hall. Sprinting down the steps, spittle flying, came LCM, untangling string from his legs and he screamed,"Where do you think you are going?" I looked about feverishly, hoping....

Please pray for Paula Howard. She was diagnosed with ovarian cancer a few years ago, went through the recommended chemo, etc. and was clear for a while but has recently been told she has a spot on her liver. She's getting a PET/CT scan this week to find out if there are any other spots in her body. Some of you may know her as Paula Breitenbach (maiden name) or Paula Maulding (1st husband). She is currently living in Modesto, CA. If you would like to contact her, please let me know and I will forward the contact information to her since she doesn't have email. Thank you very much and all of God's best to you.

WOW, wtf, this is like a time-warp or time loop

OR -- SS, DD.....

Mike, you have failed the application of Occam's razor...as in, your SHI--IITE is so convoluted, IT HAS to be suspect....

no everyday, average, non-TWI person could ever hear your spiel and not conclude you were off your rocker....

can you imagine Martin Luther buying this swill......... or insert some other name there if Martin Luther doesn't do it for ya...

Now that would be a helluva party alfa...some trusted ex 6th and 8th together with a lot of beer and some BBQ going...and line up for the contest. 6th (out of false deference) gets to go first since you guys are two years closer to dying than us 8th. <name> well I did this...8th steps forward in response <name> yeah wuss? Well I did this and that. etc etc. It would sound like that old 1970's National Lampoon album "That's Not Funny, That's Sick" where the guy goes into the confessional and tell the priest, "Forgive me Father for I have sinned." Priests asks about his sin. The guy says,"Well I f(cked this woman - oops I'm sorry I had sex..." Priest says it's OK I've heard it all - so they start gong back and forth with nasty words/phrases - finally ends when the guy says "rhino cl(t" - Priest pauses, then says, "That's disgusting! You kiss your mother with that mouth?" Fade to next gig.

It sounds right up my alley... I wonder if they rent out the old Sydney house for private parties....

Hey just think of the 8th (that were honest and decent) as the LithSOF that was posted about. We never scored big with the "heavy hitters" we broke more rules than the 6th (who are famous for rule breaking) and we just didn't give a cr@p about the stupid motorcoach...

and we don't stay in touch either

"we broke more rules than the 6th (who are famous for rule breaking)"

not possible, my old friend... if you had any idea just how much went on our first year in res...no way could you guys have pulled as much....... :beer: .... .. .... .... :drink:

most likely he was Shem, Noah's son from whom the Semite peoples and Abraham sprang. He out-lived many of his progeny and was certainly not "known" by many after the confusion of languages at Babel. He spoke for God and was God's priest on earth when Abraham met him. Last living man who passed through the flood. Food for thought....

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well .. you actually said ...

Sure, we all want to be the one that saved the day BUT it just did not happen that way. END STORY.

I am thankful what happened happened

and what further misery was spared, was spared.

You really expect more could have been done

considering the incredible manifest insanity of most at the top...

??

!! REALLY??

in what comic-book world

would that be, pray tell???

I think I read you correctly ... I guess not ... I sense hostility ... what is the source of that?

you probably sense irritation, frustration and impatience, but no hostility...you have not harmed me one whit, nothing to be hostile about.

I sense a tad of obtuseness on your part...unwillingness to accept what is and a feeling that it should have been done differently. Well, no argument there but what was, was; what is, is. All our re-examining will not add or subtract at all. Feels like you don't seem to want to see that...the internet cafe is a poor place to read and sense what others are driving at, I suppose....

Well, I'm certainly not your lad ... in reviewing history ... people make interpretations based on current knowledge .. they put the pieces together.

I don't think we ALL know what happened, nor do we agree on the interpretation. That is all that we are doing here ... evaluating our histories ... putting the puzzle together.

I don't quite get what you mean ... "end of story" ... I'm not thankful for what happened ... I sure don't blame Don ... or you ... but I can review.

Of course more could have been done ... terrible things happened for three decades ... how can you say it could not have been better? Sure I know what happened ... but lets review how it happened ... isn't that the idea of history?

Nothing can be done different now .. but let's remove some of the emotion ... if you review what happened at the battle of the bulge, or what started WW2 ... don't you try for an accurate interpretation?

This is about unraveling our psycho drama past ... even trained psychoanalysts walk you back through some past events ... you don't get to paint them all in pretty bright colors ...

I don't think this lesson is that hard ... if you remove some of the interference from those that want to pretend we did the best we could ... nothing could have been better ... it was good we stayed in so long .. must have been Gawd's plan ... then you can just look and consider.

I'm not quite getting where all are coming from .. different places I guess .. fine ...

for me ... I want to know reality ... add it up ... what happened ... how ...

my lad--it's a turn of a phrase, qwit bein so g-d literal....sheesh...

of course we can examine it but you seem to indicate you or it could have been done better... really, ya think?!

I am glad what happened happened because if the lid did not come off for 10 more years it would have been FAR, FAR worse, not because I'm glad for the evil...no shiite, sherlock...

"""Of course more could have been done ... terrible things happened for three decades ... how can you say it could not have been better? Sure I know what happened ... but lets review how it happened ... isn't that the idea of history?"""

where did I say it could not have been better??? I SAID, WHAT WAS, WAS----- fer krap's sake, now who's reading into shi-iitt, huh???

First I never pretended I was more capable then, than anyone else. But I can have a view now ... and discuss it ...

I had no direct knowledge of any real sexcapades .. I privately told you one minor incident, if that is what you are hinting at. It was a grab .. not sex. Someone else that was a problem ... was really being used by men in your fair city ... I think ... don't think I really knew that then.

But now we can look back and try to unravel some things. ... so why not?

So four years ... I don't know the doctors, nor do I know Don's position ... if he was working "behind enemy lines" ... he still should have been shipping victims to freedom ...as I see it.

But what I really believe ... since I have no reason to pat Don on the head, and tell him what a good boy he was ... (and I'm sure he doesn't need that) is that it all took place under the umbrella of Vic's control. It was still in the cult box thinking ... and the rest is rationalization. ...understandable ... but still not the 20/20 hindsight best course of action.

It looks to me like there was an inability to break from the cult, not so much a willful decision ... so the good hearted helping/counseling came under that "vic umbrella" ... under the vic influence.

As for going toe to toe ... it started that way ... but vic won in a knockout in 31 seconds (I forget that fight, Liston versus the ear biter?)

Money and people were being sent to this evil place ... but inside HQ ... it was a different world ... it was their whole world ... it was where the whole move of Gawd's Word ... that mankind depended on .. was emanating from ... what a mind pluck ...

I think VP and gang would have folded like a cheap suit when confronted with law enforcement and a few witnesses ... but the charade was enough to keep it going ... and unfortunately these few leaders that were trying to be honest were also hooked in the cult ... so in a sense they enabled Vic ... they played out their own little "in the cult" drama ... it was exciting ... important ... but it kept the ministry alive ... kept the wuhrd alive (as it had not been known since the first century .. can't be losin' that)

But people stayed in the cult ... there were more victims ... four years .. man .. that is a long time to keep feeding the beast. So maybe I sent some women to be counseled ... but they had to get raped first ... four years of money and people fed to the beast ...

But there were those professional relationships to maintain ... so the abuse and counseling continued ... :unsure:

Anyway ... that is my instant analysis ... off the cuff ... no doubt not all right ... but the view of those in the middle of HQ craziness ... is also jaundiced ... so there you have it ...

flame away ... I don't claim any of that is factual ... it just portrays what I see .. questions I have ... another perspective to consider ... maybe one point adds some light ... or maybe it is a word of knowledge ... from above ....

yeah ... that's it ... that' the ticket ...

(now I see made a good post over there I think)

Well, rhino my lad, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride....sure, NOW, We ALL know different. BUT, the only thing that counts is, we knew precious little back then.

Well, I would have and they should have and we could have and so on and so on and .....SO????

Sure, we all want to be the one that saved the day BUT it just did not happen that way. END OF STORY. I am thankful what happened happened and what further misery was spared, was spared. You really expect more could have been done considering the incredible manifest insanity of most at the top...??!! REALLY?? in what comic-book world would that be, pray tell???

so now we are in court...wd has his testimony and say, dwbh has his,

Whose testimony will carry any weight whatsoever in the case of what really occurred in twi and the land of veepee????

hmmmmmmmm

And if I may beat a dead horse a bit longer (are these Wierwille sycophants really worth this much effort? One wonders...)

when an eyewitness (and VICTIM!) of a crime tells what happened to them, it's not their "opinion" fer crissake, it's their TESTIMONY! You may not like it, you may not believe it, but it's not a freaking "opinion"!

Grow the fark up already, boys...

thanks, George, you beat me to it, my sentiments, "opinion", non-legally binding testimony, call it what you will... exactly

Socks... for just a sec, my blood boiled at your relating of vic's "unwillingness" to man up and deal w/ the lie. "fib", stowry that HE, with his mouth, told about you. He REFUSED to accept responsibility and then, a couple days later, jokingly couched it and framed it as "your" "problem"

If there is any one in the room who cannot see the implications and reverberation of the habit he displayed of this type of activity and the immediate and ultimate repercussions to what we called the ministry<sic>, then God enlighten your sleepy brain!!

Makes me almost ill to think how much of his SH**TT hid under that krappie, self-serving attitude.... <_< :asdf: :(

:biglaugh: :dance:

Jesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright, oh yeah... (Doobies) God is good and there is none good but God (Bible).

From the wife, since Felix is consumed with making phone calls or getting them on the weekends, and that's a good thing (to quote Martha Stewart).

June 13, Felix had another PET/CT scan, ordered by a new doc he is seeing closer to home. This doc is a MD but also a homeopathic practitioner and a real God send. On June 24th, Felix saw him for a follow up visit and he got the results. Just a reminder. Felix was diagnosed Stage 3 because there were tumors around his neck and above and below his diaphram. Sooooooo, no tumors above or below his diaphram. There were two spots around his throat that showed low levels of hypermetabolic activity (cancer type activity) but the doc told him, he thought they were just residual spots left over from what he had been doing and didn't count them as cancer. In other words, A CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH.

Oh, can you say "go your way rejoicing"???? Ya, mon. We celebrated with good champagne, a small steak, a large salad and much rejoicing, etc.

Thank you all very, very much for your prayerful support and any other involvement you have with Felix's life. He has become hyper cognizant of the prayers of righteous men and women availing much.

If anyone wants us to relate this message of deliverance to someone, we are only too happy to do so. You can email him at alfakatz@hotmail.com

Why the big guest list?? Is there a party in the back somewhere?? Seriously, what's new that 4899 are here???

Beuller?? Anyone???