alfakat

So will they???

Quite a game 3 in Oakland last night....

Nellie has Dallas back on their heels. When they are on their game, Warriors are tearin' it up.

Dallas fans: your turn.....

T-Bone...you nailed it. People seem to have a huge problem comparing like with like. Cyrus and VP...no freaking connection whatsoever. I would look at the NT sections describing wolves in sheep's clothing, the false apostles, etc. that GOD clearly warns the church against. VP was a song and dance man but he failed to uphold the standard he proclaimed. And NO, I do not expect that he would be w/o sin BUT I do expect him to pass the test of 1 Timothy 3, which applies to all who wish to serve, much less those who might wish to oversee other servants.

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....folks, there is something Seriously wrong w/ a man(of GOD?????) in his fifties and sixties who runs around getting into little girls 16-25 underwear. SORRY, MIKE, NO ifs, ands or buts about it. You can dress that pig's ear up, but it will never be raw Asian silk no matter how hard you confess and "believe".......

So Alfa you were at my wedding though uninvited. remember John and Naomi did the thing. What ever happened to them er her.

Ha Ha no not a mid life crisis if it were that I would pack bags and go to freakin Zimbabwe or somewhere with the Evan.

I drive a GMC Canyon so you know all I do is haul bark and go to the dump once in a while but I would like to know the story on them.

Me

G-riff!!! me and booth were TOO invited, even if it was your informal, rather than written, invite. besides, who was gonna drink all the excess beer(Michelob, I believe) if'n booth and i weren't there??? :beer:

I am not sure about J and N; will have to check w/ my sources and get back atcha.....

Alfakat, you said...

Uh, if you read STF/CES's website, John's paper on adultery is there. He begins by saying:

"In 1982 or 1983 Rev. Ralph Dubofsky and Rev. Vince Finegan came to me. Dr. Wierwille had asked them to do some work on the subject of adultery. Ralph and Vince wanted to know what I knew and if it would help them."

Lone Wolf

well, he may say that now BUT he certainly did NOT say that back in 1986. I was there; were YOU?

T

The things VPW did were sin, and he knew it. He struggled with his flesh and felt the condemnation just like anyone who tries to live for God. If VPW didn't care about the scriptures and didn't care about adultery, why would he have wanted a research paper done on adultery? If anything, that's the subject he would have tried to keep his clergy from ever researching.

Lone Wolf

Where the hell-o do you get that kraap??? John S.'s adultery paper had nuttin to do w/ vic....total red herring.

IF vic wanted to really deal w/ his sin, he could have. HE NEVER DID, period. His freaking epitaph be DAMNED. LOne Wolf, you do NOT know of what you speak, that is OBVIOUS.....

In all sincerity, please help me to understand why this is such an issue?

If the guy was worried about being exposed as a plagiarist, why would he speak of B.G. Leonard and his class? Wouldn't he try to hide that so no one could compare the two? I realize there was some missing notes in the bibliography on some of his works. Some people who should have had a note mentioning them didn't get it, and I'm not sure why. There were plenty of people that he did mention. ...> snip>.....

......VPW never once claimed that he came up with all of this on his own. I heard a teaching from Emporia once where he spent the first 30 minutes or so just rattling off names of different people who shared and taught him different things.

Do you know how many times I have used other peoples lines when communicating the Word? So does the Lord not honor the Word I'm speaking to someone because I stole their lines and didn't give them credit for it?? Certainly not. God cares a lot less about where you learned your doctrine from and a lot more with saving people's lives.

Sheesh, even Jesus said "My doctrine is not mine" (John 7:16).

In the end, everyone "steals" from everybody else. Bullinger did not learn everything he did on his own. He went to school and learned what his teachers taught him and so on. In the end, it all comes from God. He is the Source. Anything anyone has to say regarding spiritual truth is just a rehashing of what God has already said generations ago.

Lone Wolf McQuade

man, how old are you??? Are you really this naive???? Your "reasons" for theft are abysmal, just not up to snuff for Christianity. How many books have you personally received monetary gain for proclaiming others' words as your own ??

You sound like a "Mike" disciple if I ever heard one....SSDD

Remind me not to leave my wallet around when you come visit....

it is aways fine to be a guest here. I did not know Randy well but he almost seemed out of place with some of us reprobates in the sickkppthp kork. I remember him as a genuinely nice, straight-shooter kind of guy, maybe a little older and more mature than most of us "klowns" were back then. Very sorry to hear of his passing and glad he was related to a fine person such as yourself, WG.

....oh, and by the by, screw what king okie/big forehead said about anybody, espeacilly a fellow sikkkxxthppht kork like Randy...so there

Mrs. Alfakats, the 12th C person....

don't mean to be too controversial, but never liked the whole dirty dozen theme or the shirts, just not my thang. didn't care for JAL either, a total bore, in my book, but to each his/her own. Thought Pat & Mary were totally cool, IMHO.

make love not war.... peace, love & hippie beads, fast cars, good food & good wine

...and in further weather news, now the Mother Lode country is enjoying(?) an early spring w/ a heat wave-like high 70s/low 80s run of temps....go figure...

..Al gore help us....

thanks, nika but we will keep the top warm for you 9-korkers cuz we know it means so much to yuzzz...

mean while, in updated weather news , we had another 13 inches of snow Tuesday evening so apparently the teeming millions of soCal will not die of thirst this summer...

Just putting the sickth corps back on top

at what elevation, griff???? Cascades, Sierras almost the same chain anyways.... we had our 2 feet and more up at 6000 feet. I'm in the foothills, bro that's why I only got inches in stead a feet.....

Yeah well 2 plus feet in the Cascades, CA sucks wind and you know it.

Hey, Dot -- you really brighten up this place. happy b-day to U!!!!

True but she wants "all-in-one" browser ala NS or Mozilla, I believe....hence, Sea Monkey.

The usual "mail-client" for Firefox users is "Thunderbird."

You might try that as well-I believe it's a stand-alone program, independent of Firefox.

over 8 inches of snow the day before yesterday at 3000 feet in the Sierra Nevada's MotherLode country. Just thought you all needed to know...... :P :P :D :D :biglaugh:

Weather Reports???? you guys have sunk to weather reports to keep yourselves on top??? for shame.....

:) Well, those 10th corpse need some time in the sun, even if it comes with help from the perfect 9th corpse.

Spring not quite sprung here, but at least it is not freezing and we are getting rain instead of snow. Still ice around and the lane is squishy.

If you want email w/ browser, go to Mozilla.org and get SeaMonkey(really) It is Mozilla code ala Firefox w/ email ala the old Mozilla browser which AOL larded up as "Netscape" after they bought the Netscape name back 99 or 00, whenever it was. SeaMonkey will not crash like NS does.....

But I can't get it to access my email....

show nuff, sick kork on TOP

I believe it was a po-boy shop. Ninth is going back on top again.

what, put the ninth kork back on top??????? I trow not....

Hi, sickthos. You people were always too cool for my own good.

Evan - years ago, we ran into one another out of the blue, in a sandwich shop in Louisiana, where I'd gone as a grad student for some English conference. You were as sweet and gracious as ever.

The 6th corps was amazing.

But I'm gonna go put the 9th back on top of this thread.

...and some people are totally freaking clueless as to the nature of the discussion.

Fer krap's sake, character isn't some gee-dammm freaking light switch......how pathetically inane and sophomoric can a 50 year old adult be to think " I think he had "good charater", whatever the eff that means, when he taught the word....

here's some Word for you klueless klem kadiddle-hoppers----- a fountain puts forth not bitter water AND sweet---or didn't you know that??????

OM, you take the freaking cake.... :confused:

...maybe if so many "Christians" were not so gee-dammm fuhh-reakking busy trying to run everybody else's lives, they might be a lot happier and not so stinking naaa-asssty all the dammm time....

just a thought... :beer: :B) :B) :D :P

or " swatrattra" in the Aramaic......

sorry I'm late, where should I put these kegs? sorry I could only fit 3 in the lil red car, Tom..... :beer: :beer:

you are a young pup, aincha.....

no BUT if you signed VPW, they might go for it.....

thanks all, especially all old-time, way-back friends from daze of yore...

mistah strange, you are hereby ordered to buy the libation for your diss-respeck you have shown..... :beer: :drink:

seriously, folks, let's do this again next year....

You guys really need to find a hobby, this is stupid I mean really stupid. This is a desperate move to keep talking about something that doesn't matter. First this John Lynn guy need to be heard from. So I am not saying I don't trust GS but the letters you see would take me about 2 hours a printer, copier, and a scanner and I could do it. By the website of CES there is no change in leadership as if someone was "let go". There is in no way shape or form of seeing if these documents are legit. We are taking the word of a Cereral. Sorry there is no way I am going to just jump into a pool with no water. For example not knowing if this happened or not. As far as I can tell this is just another splinter ministry from TWI and nothing new is going on. So until something happens where there is a shake up on the website or other way of proof there is no way of knowing this.

CK

in the Immortal words of one Bugs Bunny..,

..... "WHAT A MAROON!!"