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Socks- You are wacked! Too much heavy metal! LOL

Socks- What I mean is "garbage in-garbage out". You are what you eat-mentally as well. You are influenced by what you take in. The reason homosexuality is becoming accepted by our society is because we are being told by the media that it is ok. Secular tv and movies, newspaper articles, magazines all say that homosexuality is ok and people see and read all that crap all the time and start to agree with it. You spend lots of time with negative people and you will become negative. What you dwell on will rub off on you. That's why parents are concerned about who their kids run around with.

I also agree with Imblvr. Some secular music can be very inspiring. Also nothing wrong with a song that might touch our loneliness or emptyness etc. Dont want to hear songs that touch my naughtiness though. Anyone with insight can tell the difference between songs that are spiritually clean and those that are not. Never heard a Stones or Sabbath song that was spiritually clean. Prochaine-sorry that you are sorry for me. Didnt intend to make anyone feel sorry.

Any music you listen to is definitely going to have an effect on the listener. Just as any food you eat is going to effect the eater. Being aware that a certain song is devilish dosent mean it won't affect you in a bad way. Being aware a certain food is bad for you dosent mean it wont effect you negatively when you eat it. You are what you eat-garbage in-garbage out. That is why I mostly don't listen to secular music. It dosent help me keep my mind focused on God. In fact it tends to do just the opposite. Then again, there is a big difference between the early Beatles music like "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and "Let's Spend the Night Together" or just about anyting by the Stones or Black Sabbath.

Mother Theresa? Yeah, that one gets me too. I don't believe it at all. Let's see, she lived a selfless life serving others. Yeah, that sounds devilish! Guess she could have done it for self-recognition.

Throwing out the baby with the bathwater is not a bad thing as long as it does not include God's Word.

Rottie- I agree with you completely. It is all just conjecture and educated(?)guessing. I dont know how anyone would know for sure unless God revealed it to them for some reason. Rascal- OK-truce. ((((((Rascal)))))) and I promise to shut up about "personal responsiblity". I've harped on that too much already.

Rascal- I think YOU are born again of the wrong seed. JUST TEASING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! [This message was edited by pawtucket on March 01, 2003 at 0:17.]

You should know, Rascal!

Larry G I never said Pete Rose was born of wrong seed. But it would not surprise me if he was.

Simon and Pirate- Re: Pete Rose To "sell out" to something means putting it first, kinda like worship. Like we are to put God first and worship Him. Some believe that Pete Rose worshipped himself and sought to be the greatest baseball player ever-at ANY cost. By selling his soul I meant selling it to the devil. Rose was a hero of mine for many years and I could see that his commitment to baseball was way over the top. Would never want my kid to worship a GAME.

I heard John Lennon was, and I definitely believe that. I grew up as a Beatles fan during Beatlemania. Guess I shouldn't say I believe it, should just say I believe it is possible. Heard the same of Paul McCartney, but have a little trouble believing that. Can also see Mick Jaggar and Pete Rose. Rose was my hero as a kid, but he definitely sold his soul to basball.

Seems like there were all kinds of celebrities who we were told were born of the wrong seed. There was never any proof. It was just "Limb leader so and so said Paul McCartney was a seed boy" etc. and so everyone just took it as "the truth". LOL What did you hear along these lines? Some of the rumors were probably true!

After spending plenty of time reading thru the forums here, there is no way anyone in their right minds could justify staying in twi. No offense, Thomas. "in their right minds" is just a figure of speech. But really, how could anyone stay in when reading all these forums. I mean rampant adultry, sexual abuse, drunkeness, fornication, bad theology etc. It's a cult!

Anyone know the whereabouts of Joe Hankin. He was originally from New Orleans. Met him in Evansville, Indiana in late 80s.

I left because I thought the leadership and become much to controlling and I didn't like the way they were treating people.

I'm not excusing the abuse the man committed. It was wrong and it was evil. But he also did some good things-as hard as it is to believe now.

BG Leonard never taught me anything. I've never even seen the man. But Dr Wierwelle taught me some great Bible. God called BG Leonard to do what he did and called Dr Weirwelle to do what he did. Guess BG Leonard did not have the vision that Wierwelle had to reach thousands. If it wasn't for Wierwelle thousands would not have the proof that they are born again by speaking in tongues. It is wrong to go on and on about what a person did wrong without mentioning the things the person did right.

what a post mj! You are definitly THE MAN! Wish I could explain it as well as you. Everyone says I sound hardhearted when I try to explain it. You do an exellent job.

Yeah, we definitely heard some good stuff. Just think where TWI would be today if Dr Wierwelle had not been driven by the sexual stuff, and had taught the truth about adultry and fornication.

My experience is somewhat similar to yours Dot. I had been pleading with God to teach me to speak in tongues. Every night for two weeks straight I had been begging God to show me how to speak in tongues and then one night I met a wayfer who took me to his place and led me into tongues that night. It was the greatest most exciting moment of my life. As a result I naturally fell for whatever they told me.

what an incredible post mj412! You know your stuff! You are so right. Your post sums up everthing I've been trying to say all along. Good job.

Excellent post outin88! Glad to see some of us are taking responsility for our actions. I really do feel sorry for those who were abused etc, but many of them are living in a fantasy world where they believe they were forced to obey the leadership. Hopefully we all learned a big lesson from all this.