DogLover

Thanks to a private message I received (and the White Pages of msn.com), I was able to find an address and phone number for them in Richmond, Virginia.

The last time I saw them was in 1995 at the last ROA ... they were in the Family Corps. Their assignment was somewhere in the vicinity of West Virginia/Ohio ... does anyone know whether they are in, or if out, how I might get in touch with them?

Thanks.

Kitten's real first name was Elaine, and that's what she was going by when I last saw her in the mid 1990s ... oddly enough, Bagpipes, she was living in western NC, as I remember...somewhere west of Asheville, I think ...

DL

How about wearing a long dress TWO TIMES A DAY FOR TWO WEEKS out of a tent? That's what Living Victorious (1982) was like for me and some friends ... fortunately, several of my buddies had managed to buy a ten-person-you-can-stand-up-in-it tent for $50 (at a NC yard sale) that we used for Way stuff for over 10 years till it finally rotted ... but geez! How inconsiderate of the top dogs to not consider the conditions under which people had to get ready? Yes, we did it ... but we took those long dresses off just as soon as the thing was over and put on shorts ... and wore the same dresses over and over for two weeks...

Dog Lover

But no lover of tents .... PUP or otherwise!

The first time I ever heard that teaching was in 1973 ... by Walter Cummins. When he taught it, the SNS Teaching Tape was called "Your Critical Christian Decision." He covered the three aspects of evil, those three words used for it, then ended with the comment (which I remember because I typed those particular notes up and have kept them all these years) that our critical Christian decision is whether or not we will choose to overcome evil with good....Good teaching. As most teachings of the "early years," it was twisted and subject to the private interpretation of LCM and his wannabes to put people into religious bondage.

He's such a self-centered, egotistical jerk....how dare he think he has the power/authority to tell someone where/how they are going to give birth?

Yeah, I like "Doc," too ... and it's nice to see Billy Ray Cyrus with a somewhat more normal haircut in place of the infamous mullet he wore when "Achy Breaky Heart" was popular.

That sure is who it sounds like to me, too ... although when I worked with JM in Housekeeping (my interim year at HQ 83-84) and she was NOT the big dog, we laughed and laughed and laughed ... worked with Mary Kathy P**de who always kept us laughing ... I think MK was the reason for most of the laughing, though ... she had a light heart and didn't let JM get her down ... JM was never particularly nice to me, though, always seemed to treat me as if my salvation were not as good as hers because I had not been involved in the "gross sins of the flesh."

I once had a friend (former TWI-er also) who saw the movie, "The Truman Show," and it reminded her a lot of her experience with TWI.

I agree with the post, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." The highest and lowest moments of my life came during my association with TWI ... and I am thankful for what I learned, and for the relationship I have with God, but honestly, most of that came AFTER I LEFT from other Christians (yes, are mostly TWI, but not in a "spinoff," as folks call it) ...

Hey, I LIKED High Country Caravan ... I was at HQ my interim year and got to see several of the productions live at the renovated church in New Bremen ... it was a lot of fun ...

But then again ... I also really like Alan Jackson, Toby Keith, Loretta Lynn, etc. And yeah, I really AM college educated ... Masters Degree, even.

Just because we TALK slower in the South doesn't mean we THINK slower ...

DAWG Lover

Mr. Pipes said: "As food for thought, I wonder if God's foregiveness only covers our sins against Him while our sins against others must be addressed by us to those we've wronged in order to have them foregiven prior to the Bema or judgements."

If Jesus Christ is a complete Savior (and he is), then when we do Romans 10:9 first, then I John 1:9, then "he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness." God has forgiven you .. but it certainly does wonders for us when we "clear the air" with those we have wronged ... which would indeed, take LCM a long time.

Hope this helps, Mr. Pipes.

DL

Safari...I was wondering what was so "off" about the comment about Brian Moneyhands myself ... and the only thing I can think of is that he may be in a position to inherit some money from his grandparents (Dottie's parents) that might be substantial ... but that, in my humble opinion, may be very unlikely because she has a disabled sister (injured in a car accident as a teen) who has required/requires large sums of money for medical care, and she also has another sister, who left TWI a long time back, who would also inherit (and who, by the way, is a lovely person ... I went to college with her for two of my years at UNC) ... but back to my main point ... if the reason the person above thinks that statement is off base, it may be because they either know or suppose that Brian M is set to inherit money when Grandpa Walker dies.

DL

Well put, Mr. Pipes, well put!

Those of you who are in and still lurking ... be aware that Rosa-lie and the BoD care not one whit about whether the doctrine is pure or impure. They care about the money you give and those of us who were in for years gave ... which Rosalie and Donna (and her children) now live off of comfortably ... with nice shopping trips and vacations and the like ... while you live without a house of your own and a decent car, etc. They DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU or about God ... do not believe the women behind the curtain!

Thanks, Paw ... what you said needed saying.

I feel sure the Way's "wonderful Research Department" will come out with a book soon that indicates that only 5,999,999 Jews were annihiliated. That's the kind of "groundbreaking" research I expect from them these days ...

Your question: Does anyone have anything good to say about Geer?

My answer: I trow not. (that is...NO)

There is a book called THE DOCTOR OF THE DAMNED that What the Hey should read ... I will not lower myself to nitpick about numbers ... but this is the EYEWITNESS account of a doctor who lived through it. It is captivating reading ....

What does it mean to "get over" something? That's something I (as others) have battled with for many years. I think, biblically, it has to do with declaring something null and void of its ability to hurt you. A wise person once shared that with me years ago, and then again today, as being the way to understand the verse in Philippians that says "forgetting those things which are behind..." We as humans cannot forget unless there is some sort of accident that causes long-term amnesia ... so that's a bad translation. But we can declare something or someone null and void in its ability to hurt you ... and that takes time, the Word of God, the spirit of God working in a person, and often, it takes kind and caring believers that let you talk it out and work it out.

As wonderful as GreaseSpot is for some categories, for me it took talking my pain out with a kind and caring believer face to face, someone I could trust, before I could declare certain things null and void of their ability to hurt me in my life. Do I still get angry with the person(s) at the center of the hurt? Yes, sometimes. But do I have nightmares that awaken me in a cold sweat? No.

Everyone "gets over" things in their own time. I think it's callous and hard-hearted for people to say, "Why don't you just get over it and move on?" Can't really see any place in Scripture where God says it/sees it that way .. that you should just "get over it." His compassions are new every morning ... so we must need them every morning.

Back into lurkdom.

I got an advertisement in the mail the other day for a book you may want to order and read if you are still in bondage to tithing (as opposed to free-will giving, which IS a Biblical concept) ... it is called: TITHING: LOW-REALM, OBSOLETE, & DEFUNCT ... available by calling 1-800-228-2665 or by going online to www.seedsowers.com ... I ordered a copy ...

Rum Runner ... very powerful video clips. I must confess, that in my 23.5 years spent in TWI, I believe the diatribes about "the Myth of the Six Million." Since my exit in January 1996, I have come to know better. I wish every one of the kids of the Way (and young adults) could see these video clips ... it would build a compassion and understanding AND AWARENESS they, like I, was sorely lacking of this dark, dark period in history.

I've seen the syllabus for that crazy class, though I left before I took it myself, excathedra. LCM propounds that the serpent changed himself/itself into a beautiful woman, and that is how the serpent tempted Eve.

Weird stuff.

Just for the record, I don't think he was a homosexual either ... just a very twisted, egocentric heterosexual with manic-depressive tendencies.

Great poem, ILB ... the calm will come once the waters you have stirred up by leaving TWI have had a chance to settle ... just remember, you made the RIGHT choice to leave. It takes a while for all of us to have that "peaceable fruit of righteousness." Thankfulness is a great key.

Thanks for posting ... we've missed you!

DL

I have all the records mentioned above, but I have NO idea how to convert them to CDs ... any suggestions?

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Now, unless I understood the tape wrong, Naomi was "moneyhands" granddaughter

No, Naomi was Art Poling's daughter ... no relation to Bob or Dottie "Moneyhands."

Dan McConaughey is the person you remember that was the Aramaic scholar that attended the University of Chicago.