RumRunner

"The Martians had no resistance to the bacteria in our atmosphere to which we have long since become immune. Once they had breathed our air, germs, which no longer affect us, began to kill them. The end came swiftly. All over the world, their machines began to stop and fall. After all that men could do had failed, the Martians were destroyed and humanity was saved by the littlest things, which God, in His wisdom, had put upon this Earth."

George

War of the Worlds - actually from the "original" text of the first Hollywood production in the 50's as well as from HG Wells book.

Has anyone ever stopped to consider that a "ministry" that prided itself in Biblical research and teaching found a way to systematically teach how to break all ten of the ten commandments?

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV) 1

"I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me."

I am the Victor your Weirwille who taught you PFAL and took you out of having a productive life. You shall have no other teachers before me

2 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

Except when I die; then you can make a beautiful fountain with statues of me. For I, the Victor your Wierwille, am a jealous cult leader visiting the iniquity of the fathers unto the children by way of the cro-magnon LCM and unto the third generation by way of the Rivenshark from the boundless depths of fire, but show motor coach to those who love me and keep my commandments.

3 "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

Thou shalt always refer to me as Doctor or The Doctor for I shall visit the JAL upon those who take the name Victor in vain.

4 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Remember the Rock of Ages, to keep it holy. 12 months you shall labor and do all of my money making WOW schemes, but the last two weeks of August are the holy days of the Victor your Wierwille. In that you shall quit your jobs, leave your family, ignore your colleagues and travel to the corn field of life for I have blessed the Rock of Ages and made it holy.

5 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

Leave your father and mother and have them leave their property to me such that I have the land long and yea even to the end of ages.

6 "You shall not murder.

You shall not do anything more violent and abusive than me.

7 "You shall not commit adultery.

I will for you. What's your wife's name again?

8 "You shall not steal.

For I shall steal from you such that you are so broke and living so poorly that you cannot steal from me. Blue forms to tomorrow AM by 0900.

9 "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

You shall never bear witness to my drunken, abusive, adulterous, sexually and morally depraved lifestyle.

10"You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's."

You shall give your house to me and convince your neighbor to do so as well. While you're at it, do not try to covet and take his wife, for I the Victor your Wierwille will take her in the holy coach with motors. The taking of oxen and donkeys is against the commandment - however if you have a taste for dog or kiddie porn see me after the meeting.

The Incredible shrinking cult sounds better.

I'm kinda going for "Rot in He[[ A$$hole"

I have sometimes wondered if that whole *revelation* thing coupled with SIT didn't set some of us up for some sort of mental illness later in life. . . . . listening for voices in our head, hearing them, doing what they say. . . . . or blanking out instead of engaging in what is going on around us. . . . not everyone. . .but, it may have contributed to problems some have.

I remember reading something from JAL about knowing the difference between Jesus' voice and God's voice speaking to him. . . . that is two voices right there.

Wait!!! I hear the voices all the time that come to me through the fillings in my teeth.

Just because the pinheads JAL wrote about were completely in the wrong,

that does not mean JAL is in the right.

JAL was just FINE with twi until someone ELSE forced the issues-

then he was APPALLED by what happened for years while he was a top leader.

JAL was just FINE with ces/stfi until HIS ox was getting gored-

then he was APPALLED by what happened for years while he was a top leader.

You're an IDIOT!

You dropped the ball in a MAJOR way TWICE in TWO different organizations!

You're preparing to drop it AGAIN by making ANOTHER group and not learning

from the mistakes you made EITHER time!

In this, you're stupider than lcm- at least HE has kept his fool mouth shut

down the years and has stopped drawing attention to himself!

You've retained a style of demonstrating ego AND cluelessness and letting

God's people get hurt while you puffed up organizations!

Perhaps you're doomed to make the same mistakes over and over until death.

If you have any choice about it, WAKE UP!

*smirk* ayep

The drugs must be much excellent to post something like that...."an alternative biblical truth" Geeezuuuzz...an alternative biblical truth?

JAL is posting like a jilted lover not a minister who "represents" the most powerful mutha-....a in the universe. Whiny old f(ck...go out to pasture JAL...you've outlived your usefulness. You sound like some drunk in a bar whining about his ex-wife....never stopping to think that you may be part, or most, or all, of the problem.

Rum,

Didn't we take Christmas (or Thanksgiving) meal together in Keene that year? Would have been '75. It was at the home of a fine New England lady. I remember the Yorkshire pudding, which I viewed with a mixture of interest & horror.

Aye we did indeed as I recall - although recall at my age going back that far is certainly subject to question.

Thanks for posting the recipe!

D

Alrighty, Rum, we know you are busy with your company but you have to update us on those fabulous fixins....

All went perfectly, including the Yorkshire pudding which can be picky. Today we'll have brisket with potato pancakes, tomato salad topped with lobster.

And by all means, share those recipes..yeh, yeh, yeh

Indeed I will. Tomorrow most guests leave so I'll post some recipes. To be honest, I use a lot of basic Prudhomme or Lagazzi recipes - sometimes merge them - almost always modify them so suit my taste. Roast, brisket, etc are family recipes.

Suffice it to say there was more food than even my son can tackle...and he can eat.

Probably need another line...

George

Naw - I either watch too many obscure movies or I miss the lines that catch others' attention. The movie was Second Hand Lion.

Over to you George

Virginia, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Virginia, whether they be men’s or children’s, are little. In this great universe of ours, man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect as compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus! It would be as dreary as if there were no Virginias. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The eternal light with which childhood fills the world would be extinguished.

Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in fairies. You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chimneys on Christmas eve to catch Santa Claus, but even if you did not see Santa Claus coming down, what would that prove? Nobody sees Santa Claus, but that is no sign that there is no Santa Claus. The most real things in the world are those that neither children nor men can see. Did you ever see fairies dancing on the lawn? Of course not, but that’s no proof that they are not there. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world.

You tear apart the baby’s rattle and see what makes the noise inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived could tear apart. Only faith, poetry, love, romance, can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, Virginia, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding.

No Santa Claus! Thank God! he lives and lives forever. A thousand years from now, Virginia, nay 10 times 10,000 years from now, he will continue to make glad the heart of childhood.

And as I said to my, now adult, children...If NORAD still believes in Santa so should you...

Sweet and thanks for posting it. However all of the heartfelt dancing doesn't help someone who has breast cancer. Why not edit your post and remind women - GET YOUR MAMMOGRAMS EVERY YEAR!!!!! Breast cancer has the highest rate of remission of any cancer and yet, since it often goes undetected until too late, also has a very high death rate.

I know, I know, I'm a guy and don't know how uncomfortable a mammo is...well actually I helped design a magnet that made it so your breasts didn't have to be squeezed into a sausage casing to image - but that's another story.

I've lost a couple of colleagues to breast cancer - why? Couldn't be bothered with the annual.

I think we're not connecting very well.

I think that is a valid observation. I've known penworks since before the earth's crust cooled. I've known Geisha briefly and only recently but had some nice conversations with her. I think if you two were in the same room with a cup of coffee (or some really good Scotch - say like Laphroig) you'd both get along famously. You both have good analytical skills and are both, clearly, rather intelligent - and perhaps more importantly - regardless of your respective religious beliefs, or lack thereof, you both have a strong sense of ethic and morals. Face to face you might find each other somewhat refreshingly similar.

Consider science - kinda what I do for a living... Science rarely means we all agree during an investigation. The hope is that by cooperative efforts we can uncover little bits at a time - and agree on those little bits. Then, if we get really, really, REALLY lucky - we start to piece those bits together and a picture forms that we can begin to agree on.

In my best Forrest Gump imitation...and that's all I have to say about that.

Back to your respective banter - I'll bow out now and go get some duck ready for roasting.

The Bible, no matter how we got it, no matter how we feel about its authority or lack thereof, still remains a culturally-bound book, and there's no end of ignorance about that fact and its implications - I’ll be the first one to admit I’m still getting educated about that! What I do know from my life experience in TWI and thereafter, and from the evidence of many other people’s stories, is that bibliolatry perpetuated by Christian fundamentalism is a serious issue of enormous importance. Fundamentalist Bible cults will continue to sprout up because the “general public” seems okay with the basis for these groups – a belief that a particular book has all the answers they need in this life. Bibliolatry of necessity involves a denial of anyone else’s differing interpretations of what the book says and means...interpretations offered by none other than...theologians.

And that ought to be posted on the GSC splash page. Insightful (and perhaps inciteful). Succinct and so very very true.

"The Bucket List"?

George

Nope - but same genre of actors

Maybe. But it doesn't help if I don't recognize the movie. :)

Why don't you tell us what movie it is, and post another, yourself?

George

Ummm - OK - the movie is "October Sky" Launch of the last rocket. BTW it is a movie worth seeing. So is the next one - hint - think long time classic male actors - in endearing roles...really...even if the quoted lines do not sound so endearing.

"Whole lotta good hospitals are... Hub, that's because you never stayed in one long enough to find out."

Look at her fly Homer! This one's gonna go for miles

edited for a word correction hence quoted accurately

OK was this too obscure? I thought it was a defining moment in the movie. If I am wrong someone else go ahead and take the lead.

I wonder how any of this relates to a grown man (VPW) telling a roomful of people that he fondled his own teenage daughter's breasts to teach her about sexuality. Several posters on this site were first hand witnesses to that event.

edit:

We don't know if he actually did it.

What we do know is that he openly claimed he did.

Whether he did it or not - he said he did - and I wonder how many other "faithful" fathers figured something like, "Well if VP did it I guess I should to." I hope to never know to be honest. The thought itself is repugnant enough.

I vote for "another dirty old man who spouted jibberish to serve his own private agenda"

Naw...lots of dirty old men out there - Jethro Tulls and all - winos on the corner.

Vic holds his own title as Dr. scum, rapist and abuser

i think or at least hope it was way indoctrination

I probably would agree with that. Given the number of failed families in TWI it seems the common thread is TWI's indoctrination and not that the parents or children were messed up by nature.

OK this just irks me.

The news:

A short and terse paragraph about how 18 people died in a suicide bomber's explosion in Bagdhad. No names mentioned.

The news:

A long and flowery article on the new TV series about the Jackson family (as in Michael Jackson). TV network blasting it every fourth commercial calling it about "The First Family of Music."

The news:

A series of long and ugly stories about Tiger Woods' sexual liaisons with various high end escorts.

A) I don't care about the Jackson Family - seems like the old man just making another dollar off of his kids like he's done for 40 years. Who cares about the first family of music?!?!?

B) I don't care about Tiger Woods' little escapades. While many may find it distasteful that he had those little liaisons - fact is it happens every day in every country - without making the news.

C) I DO care about innocent people dying because of some religious zealot obeying his Way Corps directive as to how to attain his 70 (or so) virgins).

If this is news then we have become less than bottom feeders. At least bottom feeders (shrimp, oysters, crawfish, catfish) make for darned fine cooking. This is news?!?!? This is somehow entertaining (applies to all three of the above)?!?!? This is somehow informative and educational?!?!? Something we need to know as "informed American citizens?" (Don't chomp of me for using the word American without specifying USA citizens or I'll remind you that CBS coined the phrase "informed American citizens" - go crap on their plate of spaghetti.)

Maybe they were having a sale on lutefisk?

That is one of the few foods I consider truly vile - fish jello. Surprised they didn't make us eat that for some kind of disciplinary action in rez.

Look at her fly Homer! This one's gonna go for miles

edited for a word correction hence quoted accurately

Lovelace knew how to program Babbages machine.. I think before anyone figured out a practical way to build one..

But the mathmetical proof was already there that it would work...Turing...nothing more need be said about Turing except perhaps to mention Von Neuman some many many years later

Trying to figure out why wierwille was so anti-relic, esp against the Catholic church. I heard a rumor today that the drunken rapist's glass eye was for sale on ebay. I never go there so I don't know about this link. Special deal for Texans since their state song is "The Eyes of Texas are Upon You" but with proof of previous way corps graduation you can get this eye in Texas with a free forehead harness so you can have three eyes and be all seeing, having the mystical abilities to see it in the original, and with three eyes, one of them wierwille's, you too can become the eyes and ears of the church.....just like he was.