RumRunner

I think they have their own version of something or other. Guess that's a question I should have asked at the first IV but you know, you can't think of everything.

Recommendations, anyone, on something well used? For programming for a professional (legal) program, so will use databases to record strings of data, but not many math formulae - just adding/subtracting figures (to make bills) and working out tax. Maybe a few other percentages. Nothing scientific, highly technical, trig or stuff like that.

Oracle == powerful && expensive && fully SQL compliant

MySql == powerful && cheap ! fully SQL compliant

Postgres == powerful, free, fully SQL compliant

I'd go with Postgres

Second IV next week will test technical ability. In this job role I will need to tailor the software house's own software by scripting to take account of the target firm's own requirements.

Can anyone here recommend online tutorials, training etc - FREE! - that I can practice with?

Currently I use Mozilla; I know some online tutorials use IE which I use only occasionally now.

What kind of scripting *nix (tcsh, bash, etc)? Windows? Java?

It's a Clint Eastwood movie, but I'm not sure which one.

"Dirty Harry"?

George

You got it. Actually the line(s) that are oft remembered are "Feeling lucky punk? Go ahead. Make my day."

Since you bring up Kelley and adopting a family - here is something that is nice but also practical as heck and solves one of those gigantic parent problems. Ya know when you look around the kids' room and see all of those toys that they haven't touched in 5 years but refuse to toss? We find a family and make an XMAS visit. Some of these kids are from such broken places that they've never seen a wrapped gift. My kids - yeah even my son - really get into wrapping the used toys up and ya know it is just hawg heaven for some kid to have not one - but 25 wrapped XMAS gifts. The practical side? Ya got your kids to clean out their rooms (*snicker*). My children have moved on now - but between them they still maintain the same practice.

Funny how that ratty old nerf football that you'd just love to toss became the gift that made some young boy run up to his mom and say, "Look what I got mom?"

Friendly neighborhood spider man

Now you've gone and done it Shellon. Although many, if not most, on GSC won't believe it I am a big believer in the "small kindness" things. Being nice rarely costs a single penny - maybe a couple of minutes of your time. I'm the nut job that still helps little old ladies (although I am rapidly becoming an old man) put their groceries in the trunk. I'm a firm believer in supporting people who are hired at the local grocery with Down's - I pick their lines on purpose if they are bagging.

Today I walked into the Einstein's bagel shop at the student union. Now ya gotta understand that Louisiana can be a weird place racially - where certain people still often end up with the service jobs and certain others as the "users" of those services. Result is often a very under toned strained racial relationship. There is a fine woman there named Brandi - always has that smile on her face and humming some nice tune - and always has that sweet greeting that is common in LA - "How you doing this morning baby?" Today she asked me how I was and I said fine as long as I can see you in the morning darling. She got all soft and told me I made her day. Well on the way out I got to thinking (rare for me) and stopped off at the bookstore to pick her up one of those 3-D ornaments - made out of little delicate threads and such - packed flat but then you "puff it out" and it becomes a 3-D snow flake - all delicate silver and white threads and such. Bought one for her and brought it back to her...to quote the oft used line...I wish you could have seen the look on her face and heard the words she said.

If the scotch is good - WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would water down good scotch with ice, or anything else for that matter. Good scotch (Laphroig, Lagavulin, etc) should be sipped neat from a small glass and the taste savored over time. Drinking scotch for a buzz instead of the taste is a waste of scotch.

Shellon - we've had our PM's about your posts so I will not reiterate here. However if someone asked me what I thought of you as a person I would probably just stare stupidly back at them as if they had asked me what I thought of the Rock of Gibraltar.

Hmmmmmmmmmm. If you're not a member of the MoChat site (which is a member-only-viewing/posting-site),

then how-in-the-hell-can-you-say-that-she's-trashing-GSC-and-naming-Paw-by-name there??

You're a liar, or if you're running the rum (as your screen name suggests),

you've been imbibing your cargo while posting. You need to apologize for what you said. Period!

This is not a personal attack. It's an observation that you spoke TOO freely, and have NO validation for your accusations.

If you can't apologize for it, SHUT-THE-HELL-UP-ABOUT-THAT-WHICH-YOU-KNOW-NOT-THEREOF!!!

Sincerely yours;

David

Lighten up sweetie. The screen name comes from Robert Hunter who was a lyricist for the Grateful Dead and has nothing to do with imbibing rum. And since I understand you are quite the banjo player perhaps you might want to check into Robert Hunter and perhaps a couple of tunes from "Old and In the Way" which includes not only Garcia but Vassar Clemens, David Griswold and some other great bluegrass folk.

In any case,as I said before, thanks for sticking up for Excie. She's been through the mill.

Nighty night.

Perhaps, Rumrunner - - - you could provide some sort of proof of your statement I quoted from your post above??

You're making (imo) a fallacious statement that requires an apology to both Excie specifically, and GSC in general.

The ex-JW board that you mentioned that Excie is a member of (as I am also), is a "Members Only" board so if what you say is true,

you must be registered there too, eh? I've NEVER heard Excie mention ANYONE by their real name there, and neither have I done so.

I've yet ( and I've been a member of MoChat since it's inception) to hear Paw's real name name mentioned there on that site.

Yup - - - there's a bunch of us there that know it, but common courtesy rules there and those who do not give out their real name,

are never mentioned by their real name. When referring to posters there at MoChat, it's a given that it's the screen name is used;

and NOT a person's real name.

So like I said - - - Put up, or Shut up. You, RumRunner (if you are a member of the MoChat site) will have access to it,

unlike any others here who are not. Please provide a screen shot of the posts she made naming Paw by his real name.

If you can't do that - - - then your allegations are just so much smoke out of your @$. I'll chalk it up to Global Warming.

If you can do so, I'll apologize. But as it stands - - - I think you made a personal attack on a poster here without validation.

Ain't a member, ain't got the time, ain't got the interest. But thanks for standing up for her. She's been through a lot.

That WAS more than a little harsh Rum, and not equal to your usual self.

Uhhh harsh to whom? TWI? If so then yes it was harsh. I figured with all of Excie's posts about abuse that if anyone would grin about buying up that coach and setting it on fire she might be first on the list. As long as TWI is selling of property etc I think it might me a real gas to set the coach on fire and post vids on you tube.

Just for fun I thought I'd post a link to a skeptic site where several folks have written in defending their pet superstition "Ramtha". I think the parallels to most other religions and faiths is self-evident - the arrogance, the unquestioned adherence to unsupported and really dubious tenets, and the urge to want to "share" the belief with the poor, unwashed heathen:

http://www.skepdic.c.../ramthacom.html

I concur about the unsupported and dubious tenets. Below is the best link I have seen on religion. However if George Carlin offends you - please don't follow the URL

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=RNy6ziOyxoA

Is it really possible to do this?

Are we evolved enough as humans?

How do we de-escalate the rhetoric in civil discourse to do this?

Those are actually tough questions...especially when you/he says "we." For starters I will say I cannot answer those questions myself...I'm, generally. too ignorant to speak for humans as a whole.

Life's experiences are so individual that when it comes to personal matters it is hard to consider if "we" are evolved enough as humans as a whole body of animals. It is easy to say humans have a heart, two lungs, a pair of legs, etc. When it comes to life experiences with religion, any religion, it becomes personal and often very individual. The same can be said for trauma. Some people can walk away - others in the same type of trauma are truly damaged for life...and yet others are marginally damaged but can refer to their past trauma as an excuse for future failure.

So my apologies for not providing any answers to your questions but I thought I'd toss in my $0.02 from a general perspective.

Nicely said, Twinky.

Penworks, I've never seen you be anything but polite. Your posts are informative and you stick to the facts as you see them rather than resorting to name calling and telling people to take a hike if they don't agree with you. I appreciate that about you.

The next comment is for everyone and isn't directed specifically at Penworks (just to be clear):

No one who's called for less harsh treatment of new posters has suggested that anyone should stop exposing twi for what it is. I know that certainly wasn't my point, but it seems as if some people are reacting as if that's what has been said.

I forgot to say to Shellon, back on the first page, that I admire your nurturing soul. You're always ready to lend a hand, give a word of encouragement, join in prayer for those who ask (and probably some who don't). You're also qualified to give more help than some of the rest of us, given your chosen field. I don't think we can "meet everyone's needs," either. But some of us (not referring to you) could be more patient with new posters here.

Excellent comments on Penworks and Shellon. Thanks for thinking of it and taking the time to post it.

they have been trying and trying to "find their voice" -- greasespot hasn't been helpful

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I didn't know it was the charter of GSC to be helpful. I think that being helpful was from the BASIC (not WAY driven) goodness of people's own hearts. I believe - if I can still read English - the mission is to tell the other side of the story. While I certainly wish no harm on newbies who have (perhaps...and often fabricated) trauma of their own... simple facts are that GSC is not a certified psychological "help site." Just a bunch of folks telling the "other side of the story."

Excie - perhaps you should go back to the JW site where you have been trashing GSC as well as Pawtucket by his real name. It has not been missed by several here on GSC. Pawtucket gave you safe haven and you have endeavored to trash him on the net. Wanna buy a used motor coach too?

Who is this site for? Is it only for amusement of the long-time posters?

No it is not - it is for the amusement of all of us - much like Loud CroMagnan (LCM) is now mostly amusement.

Welcome to Home Despot

The twi mindset was based on like minded zombies walking in lockstep...with the end result being MONEY in Vic's bank account and women in the motorcoach...there's nobody getting a payoff here...

Spot on.

Tell that to a holocaust survivor...I believe that it's only when we passionately tell the story of what really happened, that an impact is made upon people...does it upset them?...

...I hope so.

Hell yeah

Well I was tweaking some atmospheric numerical models today on global climate change. I figure if my results come out wrong I can blame it on 13th Friday.

FWIW, I never heard of Waydale.

I'm glad this place is called "Grease Spot Cafe". Had it been called Waydale, I probably wouldn't have paid any attention. As it was, I found Grease Spot Cafe as I was looking for the zip code, preparing to crawl back to TWI over broken glass because my life was so miserable on the outside. The intriguing diversion to the Cafe...has distracted me ever since. Never made it back to TWI. Phew!!!

Jeezus Twinky - never crawl back to that space. I'd rather be in a good old fashioned barroom brawl than go back there. Chin up lass

Rummie, did I hit a sore point?

Not a bit dearest - I have very few sore points - twas just an observation on my part.

Okay, I was poking fun just a little at USA imperialism - but also at Brit imperialism before that, too!!! Look at the whole post...!

I like Americans (inhabitants of the USA) as individuals. I have met some pretty nice people, open and generous in a way not found in a lot of places or some other countries. I have visited the USA on a number of occasions over many years, before, during and after my involvement with TWI.

Cool

I have a problem with USA imperialism and wanting to run other countries. Your immediate past president did no favors in this regard.

Agreed wholeheartedly

Ah well, that's for another forum. If you wanna carry on, start something in Politics and Tacks.

Not interested dear

If you say, Rummie, it was me who lumped the Americas together as one (and I would change the entry on the poll if it were possible, but it doesn't seem to be possible to change the poll) ...what nationality do you call yourself, Rummie? An American? Or a "USA-an?" If someone from Quebec called himself an American, would you object and say, no, you're a Canadian? What about someone from Mexico, Buenos Aires, Columbia, Tiera del Fuego?

I don't call myself by any nationality except when I have to go through customs and immigration. BTW since you bring up Mexico - they refer to their country as Estatos Unos - or United States - and it has nothing to do with the country I live in. Saying USA is kind of accepted around the world. It is the name given to this country by the founding fathers and is globally accepted (generally). Good enough for me.

Also BTW Buenos Aires is a fine place - almost bought retirement property there as well as in Valparaiso Chile.

My objection is when anyone lumps any other group all together.

So now in Edward Morrow's words - good night and good luck - although it is middle of the night for you right now.

WW - yes, what a good idea. In fact, if the USA realized there were actually other countries and civilizations outside the USA it would be a brilliant thing.

That comment was ridiculously harsh. People in the USA are quite conscious of other countries and cultures. Certainly not everyone - but your comment simply lumps all of us into one big lump of ignorant fools. Companies in the USA do business with every country but six as limited by certain export laws in the Department of Commerce. I have been on six continents and over 100 countries and EVERYTIME I go someplace new I read a good book titled "Kiss, Shake or Bow." I have made every effort to understand other countries and cultures as have all of the employees of my previous company and the university I work for now. We have mandatory training for international travel so that you do not get labeled as a typical loud mouthed ignorant Brit who stabs every teen they can find...oops...musta been the daemon's in me controlling the keyboard for a second.

It seems that it is so much fun for people to make fun of the USA. Enjoy Twinky. The sun finally did set on the British empire as it will someday set on the USA. Your comment however, shows ignorance, arrogance, and gross ego. Maybe you guys are just holding too much PMS water and need to go beat up on the Falkland Islands again to let of some off your imperialistic steam.

As I recall it was YOUR poll that lumped all of the Americas together...and a few citizens of the USA who pointed that out to you.

Why don't you spend the money to come to the USA and instead of going to an ex-cult BBQ take the time to visit people here - get to know US instead of always coming down on USA for not getting to know YOU.

And before you decide that this is a personal attack...I really expected more from you than a cheap shot at the USA as a whole. That was well beneath most of your other posts. I shall expect a prompt call on the telly tomorrow from the G.B Ambassador to the U.S.A. offering immediate delivery of some excellent Brit scones and tea..and some good ale as well.

That was my experience with TWI research! Well put.

Here's one example:

Now, turn to your PFAL books to verse - oops I mean page, 127, "Now I said that no translation, let along a version, may properly be called the Word of God."

WHOA. Then what CAN be called the Word of God?

Oh Vic had that covered...consider this

Vic: The word takes the place of the absent christ

Vic: God told me he would teach me the word like it hasn't been known since the first century

Conned cult follower's conclusion: Vic is the word and hence the absent christ.

...and how often did he make fun of the pope for speaking ex cathedra whilst vic did the very same.

Consider this:

Vic: There are no originals

Vic: I wish you could see it in the original (how many times did you hear that in rez?)

Conclusion: Vic was the word because somehow god showed him the original, Vic therefore is the absent christ

Vic conned us all and was a good con man. PT Barnum would have made him a full partner.

holy cow - - - this is like the second law of thermodynamics....."Everything Must Go Somewhere" :)

Uhhh - that isn't the second law of thermodynamics - but I can let it slide in this thread.

In other words, Mithraism is the counterfeit - not Christianity.

I'm thinking that that is a pretty bold statement. Mithraism may indeed be a counterfeit, but simple fact of the matter is that it is pretty hard to prove that any religion is "true." Most religions have a "faith" element, something unseen, hoped for in the future, some transition after "death" or such that is based on a belief system rather than provable events. I could no more consider Christianity to be the complete truth (or non counterfeit if you will) than Mithraism. That being said, the basic tenants of Christianity seem fine, but then again so do the basic tenants of Judaism, Buddhism, Taoism, and many others. They all fall short in a couple of areas however, every damned one of them. We a) murder in the name of them and b) use them for class wars - typically gender - keep the women down - keep the homosexuals down, keep the African based ethnicity's down...etc...etc...etc. And therein Christianity, historically, doesn't show one milligram better than other religions.

Hi Mr. Linder. :wave:Hurry up with your coffee now, it's almost time to go spy on the masses, and you have a 10:30 fellowship to get ready for......hurry hurry Mr. Linder.

No idea why you are so polite to Linder. He was always a fat and stupid f**k with an arrogant attitude. His wife was always kind of nice in rez - never understood why a nice young thing like here would kiss up to a fat, pasty, slimey, major wuss kinda guy. I heard he and Craig got it on a lot in later years.

Hey Linder - you must have figured out who I am by now. Wanna stop by for a visit? I got some nice utensils that can perform liposuction on ya pea brain.

All sound advice from Krys. One more thing to add. Avoid (if possible) enclosed spaces with non-moving air such as elevators, buses, subways, etc. The H1N1/A virus is aerosol borne as well as contact borne. People are contagious for about 48-72 hours before the outbreak of their symptoms...hence a cough in an elevator becomes a very effective vector for the virus...while the original victim still has no idea they are infected.

BIG ONE HERE...my daughter is a molecular bio-engineer and gave me the rundown on why this one is so dangerous to those we usually think are safe - that is teens through twenty somethings... not the usual infants and older folk...DRINK LOTS OF WATER. It breaks up the critical reproductive cycles of the virus. In her words..."Dad drink enough water that you think your drowning yourself. Drink water until your urine is clear all day and night."

Here are some ways to prevent it:

Wash your hands often. Use warm-hot water and soap. Wash carefully - recite the alphabet...that's long enough.

Resist every impulse to touch your face unless you're eating, or washing.

Gargle with warm salt water twice per day. Salt will destroy the virus.

Drink as much of any warm beverage as you can handle. Coffee or tea (including herb tea). Swallowing the beverage washes the virus particles into your stomach where normal digestive processes destroy it.

If you can internalize and master this schedule, it's likely you will prevent most communicable diseases from sticking to you.

Eat very well. Meat should be eaten in small portions. Most dietitians recommend a portion no larger than a deck of cards (3-D). Eat as much of the dark colored vegetables and fruits as you can, when possible, some of them raw. Fish is a wonderful food.

Regular vigorous exercise is also necessary.

Just as we are all different, we may need to adjust ourselves in other ways too. If you don't want the vaccine or can't get the vaccine this is your best bet to stay healthy.