Linda Z

The surgery has been completed. Joe finally has his lungs!!!! Prayers are now for his great recovery.

Hooray! Thank God!

Socksness said (and I am totally taking it out of context because it just struck me as funny):

Somewhere, sometime, at some point, you're going to end up in a chair listening and watching them yap.

Nuh uh! Not me. No way. Never again.

Hi HAP

I see your FB posts, so I know how political they are. I also have seen that they start some fairly reasonable discussions, too, which is good. You're right...the tone there is much more civil than it was in the political forum here. MUCH. I find that difference interesting and have a few theories about why that might be, but no time to verbalize them now.

If it were just a matter of pi$$ing off or not pi$$ing off my old twi friends, I wouldn't hesitate to state my political positions frequently. But for the sake of elderly relatives and other family members I love, I think zipping my FB lip is the way to go. It's hard. If one particular beloved aunt posts one more "Don't you miss George W. Bush" blurb I might have to stop biting my tongue and say, "Not only no, but hell no!" :)

If I find after getting to know / re know some people that we're not on the same wavelength for how we use facebook - like I get endless bible verses of the day, or floods of feel good affirmations and pictures of a political candidate with Lucifer horns photoshopped in, I may juggle the amount of inspiration I'm getting from them in my news feed. You can also hide them from your news feed.

I do that for completely non political reasons, and juggle the feeds from time to time, that way I can concentrate on people's input and stuff. I can always visit everyone's page as much as I want to anyway.

Plus if there are 100's of those in the News feed, it becomes unwieldy to manage, especially on an iPhone. You can "hide" or limit the amount of updates you get for feeds from friends. That might be an alternative for you, that way you don't see quite as much of what you don't want to see. But the mobile view of Facebook stinks anyway, no matter what.

I hear ya, Socksness.

I have an ex-sister-in-law who flooded my page with cutesy (to her) quotes, every picture she ever found online showing any kind of animal (I love 'em too, but enough already), what she's doing at every point of every day. By the time I got to view my FB page, it was filled with her "stuff" and causing everything else to scroll away too fast.

Politically speaking, though, the people I'm trying to keep from virtually choking each other don't fall into that category, and I want to see all their posts to see how they're doing. Some of them live on the other side of the country. But I have Pres. Obama lovers and haters in my family, gun nuts and gun control advocates, so it can get a little dicey.

The unfriending question just came up because of exwafer friends who clearly don't share my political views. I haven't dumped any of them, but suspect I have been dumped. :D Family's something different. I certainly have no intentions of "unfamilying" anyone, and hopefully they feel the same about me.

i have a fear of -- or just don't want to -- join facebook

i would NEVER want to un-friend a friend for political views

mwah

Come on in, the water's fine!

And I would never unfriend you, either!

Well, yeah. Maybe it's just me but I don't make "friends" based on our political views specifically, it's generally other things. And maybe it's just me but I have friends who definitely don't think like I do politically that are intelligent, compassionate and caring people. Hmmm.

Amen to that!

What good is discussion if only one point of view is acceptable?

I've always thought that, too. Unfortunately, many people think their way of thinking politically is the only way, with no shades of grey. Discussion too often turns into a verbal cat fight.

Disclaimer: I'm not starting a political discussion. Please don't turn this thread into one.

As the presidential election approaches, the number of posts on Facebook about politics has skyrocketed. We used to see the same increase around election time when there was still a political forum here.

I posted a few political opinions on FB, but I've decided because I have loved ones on both extremes of the political spectrum, I am not doing it anymore. I don't want them to hate each other, since they can all see my posts/responses, and I figure if they want to discuss or argue politics with me, they can do it face-to-face or not at all (my preference being the latter).

Thinking about all this led me to another thought...I wonder if any of my Facebook friends--especially ex-wayfers who still hold the same/similar political views they held while in twi--have unfriended me, or if any of my other FB friends have unfriended each other over politics. This question occurred to me when I saw someone's name here on GS whose posts I used to see on FB but no longer do. She and I are not of the same political persuasion, and I didn't "break up" with her so perhaps she unfriended me.

This leads me to the rhetorical question, "Is politics worth losing friends over, either those in real life or online?" Of course not! (I know it was rhetorical, but it was my question so I answered it anyway.) I love people's passion about politics (it's so much better than indifference), as long as it doesn't destroy relationships.

If you're on FB, do you engage in political discussion/debate? As far as you know, have you had any friends unfriend you there over your politics? Have you ever gotten so annoyed with someone else's political views that you unfriended them or hid their posts?

Kit, did you post on your FB page? I bet that would get a response.

I'm glad you overcame your angst and went, Johniam. And I'm glad it was a good experience for you.

I've found that the more years pass, the more my high school classmates seem to appreciate each other, regardless of who/where we were "back then." Time seems to be a great equalizer.

At our 10-year reunion, the people who were full of themselves in high school were still trying to strut their superiority, but by the 40th, everyone was pretty much glad to see each other and happy to still be kickin'!

As the years continue to roll along, we get more and more emails or other notifications that one of our classmates has died. In fact, I just found out today on Facebook that we lost another one. That's always sad news, but it does sort of bring the rest of us closer together, like survivors in a lifeboat.

Ya, like building it facing west so the front of the building could be prominent. Instead they built it facing north, obscuring the front in the woods and leaving building mechanicals such as industrial grade transformers in plain view, wrecking curb appeal. Not to mention a giant storm overflow pond in plain view. The boathouse? Nothing but mechanicals inside.

Not to get too far off topic. But I was told it was done so VPW would be facing north when he taught in the auditorium. Something about God and northern symbolism in scripture. Anywho.

I agree that it's oriented oddly on the site.

I don't know for sure, but the reason you heard for its odd position sounds like one of those twi urban legends. I never heard it said at HQ when the building was being built, when I toured the construction site, when VPW talked about its various elements and the reasons behind them, at the dedication service, or any other time.

Looks to me like it was just bad planning, and I'd be willing to guess it wasn't the choice of the architects but VPW's, since he always seemed to micromanage such projects!

The lungs weren't "up to par" according to Pawtucket on Facebook, but his brother is now at the top of the list.

I figured out how to vote and voted for her, too. Go, Teajai!

I wasn't going to do this, but she's only on during July. She's in a commercial. I'm such a stage mama I know. This is my new little rottie GRRRL. lol.

http://wciu.com/udog.php?section=vote&assetID=10008532

She's beautiful, Rottie!! Just gorgeous. What a sweet face.

Where do we vote? :)

Some screw-ups I didn't need twi's help with. I was already divorced before I ever heard of them.

When the twi sh|t hit the twi fan, I was really thankful to be single. It was hard/confusing enough to walk away without having to deal with a spouse who might have wanted to stay "in."

I give a lot of credit to those couples who managed to keep it together, especially those who disagreed on "should I stay or should I go." (Now I can't get those song lyrics out of my head. Damn.)

Ex, on the same newscast where I heard the Sandusky verdicts yesterday morning, there was a report about a bishop or some higher-up in the Catholic church who just got convicted of covering up for pedophile priests and shuffling them off to other unsuspecting parishes. His name is Lynn or Linn (dunno the spelling), and I forget what U.S. city he's in. Anyhow, he's going to jail.

It's about time these people who hid the heinous deeds of these bastar-ds were prosecuted.

To me there's nothing sadder than losing someone who is so young. My heart and prayers go out to your son and Dave's family and friends.

dabobbada has it right. It was ocular (i.e., of the eye) melanoma that metastasized (spread) to the liver, not the other way around. Not that it matters much, but we might as well be accurate.

Wow, what a great journey, and one with such a happy ending. Hooray for the young woman who gave up a kidney for your son. I'm sure God will bless her bigtime. I'm so happy for you and your family!!

i just can't even think of shumate as a mom

hard to think of donna that way as well. remember those comments about art poling's daughter? ohmygod

shame

What Donna said about that sweet, brilliant young woman was beyond shameful. It was downright evil. Hearing the garbage that Donna spewed after Naomi's tragic death removed all traces of fondness and respect I once had for her (her being Donna, of course) before she became whatever the he|| it was she morphed into.

Skyrider, I forgot to come back to this thread.

RFR's house where I had to attend meetings was next door to Terry B's. It sounds like you're saying she had another one built farther down the road, correct?

That's just mindblowing. The house she was still living in when I left in March of 1986 seemed quite new and rather high-end.

I guess it simply wasn't good enough for the Queen of the Cornfield.

I'm so sad and sorry, but in part I'm relieved that Joey has no more pain and suffering to endure, even though he endured so bravely. My prayers are with his family and the friends who loved him.

Thank you Satori and Excathedra for keeping us updated on Joey's life. Even though Joey's no longer with us, I know our prayers were not in vain.

I'll triple that!

thomas, please leave ham and waysider thread alone

or tell them to get a room ;)

Until I got to Thomas's post I thought, at last, the HAM and Waysider Show has its own thread.

I don't know the Bader's, but her house is just off grounds on New Bremen-New Knoxville Road. It was built by Way Builders and she footed the bill. I understand she has family money from the Foxes that is from allowing companies to harvest lumber off of their rather sizable land.

That's where the house was where I had to attend meetings/get-togethers when Ms. Fox Rivenbark Shumate Rivenbark was my boss. I suspect my confusion came from the date mentioned in Skyrider's post (1986).

The house Te**y Bader built, next door to his, was built at least by '84, not during or after the PoP hubbub. No matter. There's still PLENTY of hypocrisy on the part of Ms. Fox Rivenbark Shumate Rivenbark to go around, and then some.

They might have been grown by the time she went into the FC, but I vaguely recall that maybe one of her sons went with her, or at least started out with her. I could be wrong.

Skyrider, you mean to tell me she had another house built besides the one she was living in next to Bader's?!? I left at the end of March in '86 and never knew this.

Her house (the one she was living in when I was there) seemed like a perfectly good one to me, not to mention that it was quite new and was plenty large for one woman (and "friends") to occupy.

I wonder where she got all her money to build such a house. I always heard she had money. But where did it come from? Was it from her divorces? Handed down from her Fox family? From getting paid off because "she knew where the bodies were buried" as the saying goes?

In any case, with all the austerity policies foisted on the rank and file followers, if she had a house built that was newer than the new-looking one she lived in during the mid-80s, this is another example of the glaring hypocrisy of twi's so-called "leadership."