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bowtwi

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  1. an exwayfer on the way corps site told me that they had talked to kris's ex and he pretty much said she was a little looney (or maybe a lot) and this person believed him over kris -- so -- it kind of bothers me they told ME that knowing what happened to ME. i guess i'm looney too, but it still happened

    in other words, i guess abuse is in the eye of the abusee and it might just be one's fault for getting into that situation

    i still think revered ones (reverends) and men of god or men (people) in authority should be very careful when it comes to the people they are helping, counseling, etc.

    My ex would tell you I'm a little looney (or maybe a lot) too. Exes are like that. It bothers me too that he told YOU that about Kris. I agree with your comment that reverends and people in authority should be very careful when it comes to the people they are helping, counseling, etc. I admire Billy Graham for his policy of never even riding in an elevator alone with a female to avoid even the appearance of anything sleazy (or whatever wording they used).

    I can't bear to watch movies that have sexual abuse scenes or enjoy books with them and that's why I haven't bought Kris' book. I think I'll go ahead and buy it even if I never do read it, just to show my support for her.

    This is probably about enough out of me tonite, but I've been thinking about this stuff all day and it really chaps my buttocks.

  2. I disagree. Abuse is not determined subjectively, according to someone's perception, nor is it someone's fault because they got into a situation that became abusive. That idea seems to complicate domestic abuse frequently. Abuse is abuse. A spade is a spade.----- "Yeah, he beat me, but I'm not a very good housekeeper so it's probably my fault." Or, "It's probably my fault because I should have seen his true colors before I married him." --------These doctors, analysts, clergymen or what have you, that use their positions to exploit those whose welfare has been entrusted to them, are the one's at fault. Period. When people play this perception game to fault the victim or get the victim to fault them self, they are rationalizing their own guilt. Refuse to even consider playing that game.

    Excie - Please remember that it wasn't your fault and it wasn't the other girls' fault. Please reread this post of waysider's I quoted and Rum-man's and any other posts every day that clearly remind us that when that slimeball convinced young girls or married women bullturds like that it was an honor to meet his so-called "needs" in that way, that they/you were not always able to make those judgments. Sometimes maybe, but not always. He had a bit of a magic spell over us all - and shame on him for taking advantage of that.

    If he were alive today and had to answer to a judge in a court of law for even one-tenth of what he did to people by using his position for his own lusts and perversions, he'd die in prison.

    I wish I could take your pain away and throw it as far as the east is from the west. None of you deserve to continue feeling the guilt over what was HIS FAULT in the first stinkin place. I'm proud as can be of you for being able to speak (type) the words - I pray you find a way to let them go so you don't have to carry this guilt and shame that's breaking your heart over and over. IT'S SO NOT YOUR FAULT, not even a little bit. (((((Excie)))))))

  3. I have to tell ya - I went to one of J&HR's parties at their lovely home. I think it was a Christmas party, maybe in 2001 or 2002, I'm thinking. Those two know how to throw a party!!! There was a terrific crowd of some ex-way and some never been way. I think I stayed til 12:30 or later - and the party was still going strong. It was a really fun time - one of the best parties I attended all my ten years living in FL. If I still lived near them I'd love to hang out with them. I'm sure that site is not their whole life.

    I've been to a few Greasespot Weenie Roasts and altho the way was the topic of some of the discussion it was not the main gig. Having fun, relaxing and getting to know new friends was. I imagine these folks will have plenty of fun on this cruise, too.

    If I were a betting gal, I'd bet that less people on that cruise will "have twig" than don't.

    One thing I really like about Greasespot is that we're all welcome to our own opinions.

  4. Ha ha ha! That actually looks real! Funny one there, hey.

    If I lived in the area I'd love to show up - you know I'm on a list of those to be shot on sight - definitely not welcome at the Way - what could they do with the Red Cross folks there as witnesses...

    Seriously, I guess they finally read here enough times about how real churches actually help the communities. Guess the Red Cross is benign enough for them to appear to be serving people.

    They still don't fool me. This has got to be an attempt to fool the neighbors or something. This can't just be because they want to help anyone who hasn't given their life's savings over.

  5. Okay, I'm going to try this. Lemme know if it works.

    Maybe you can paste it?

    I just double-clicked on the link and it opened the Youtube right up!

    Wow, that's an amazing song! I love this version too! Thanks, Watery!!!!

  6. Bing Crosby - my dad could sing just like him and would sing Christmas carols all year long - so for me, any music by Bing is just bittersweet, but really makes me feel "Christmasy"...

    The one song that just is THE REMINDER for the RESON FOR THE SEASON is "Mary, Did You Know?" Oh, man - what a song!

    Mary, did you know

    That your baby boy will one day walk on water?

    Did you know

    That your baby boy will save our sons and daughters?

    Did you know

    That your baby boy has come to make you new?

    This child that youve delivered

    Will soon deliver you

    Mary, did you know

    That your baby boy will give sight to a blind man?

    Did you know

    That your baby boy will calm a storm with his hand?

    Did you know

    That your baby boy has walked where angels trod?

    And when you kiss your little boy

    Youve kissed the face of god

    Mary, did you know?

    The blind will see

    The deaf will hear

    And the dead will live again

    The lame will leap

    The dumb will speak

    The praises of the lamb

    Mary, did you know

    That your baby boy is lord of all creation?

    Did you know

    That your baby boy will one day rules the nations?

    Did you know

    That your baby boy is heavens perfect lamb?

    This sleeping child youre holding

    Is the great I am

    Chas - I had never heard this song until week before last when our pastor's wife sang it at church. Holy canoly, it sent chills all over my body!!! She has an amazing opera-quality voice and style of singing and it really was spectacular!

    I'll be looking for more versions of it when I get some free time, for sure!

    Merry Christmas!!! LOL (Don'tcha just love to say THAT!)

  7. Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore

    © John Prine

    While digesting Reader's Digest

    In the back of a dirty book store,

    A plastic flag, with gum on the back,

    Fell out on the floor.

    Well, I picked it up and I ran outside

    Slapped it on my window shield,

    And if I could see old Betsy Ross

    I'd tell her how good I feel.

    Chorus:

    But your flag decal won't get you

    Into Heaven any more.

    They're already overcrowded

    From your dirty little war.

    Now Jesus don't like killin'

    No matter what the reason's for,

    And your flag decal won't get you

    Into Heaven any more.

    Well, I went to the bank this morning

    And the cashier he said to me,

    "If you join the Christmas club

    We'll give you ten of them flags for free."

    Well, I didn't mess around a bit

    I took him up on what he said.

    And I stuck them stickers all over my car

    And one on my wife's forehead.

    Repeat Chorus:

    Well, I got my window shield so filled

    With flags I couldn't see.

    So, I ran the car upside a curb

    And right into a tree.

    By the time they got a doctor down

    I was already dead.

    And I'll never understand why the man

    Standing in the Pearly Gates said...

    "But your flag decal won't get you

    Into Heaven any more.

    We're already overcrowded

    From your dirty little war.

    Now Jesus don't like killin'

    No matter what the reason's for,

    And your flag decal won't get you

    Into Heaven any more."

    When I get older, losing my hair

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