brideofjc

Not easy? seems pretty obvious to me..

these sets he spoke of were and are real, tangible things. It's pretty simple. A set is either a member of itself or it isn't.

you have the set of all dogs.. the set of all hydrogen nuclei.. the set of all salamanders..

either the whole set is a set of itself, or it isn't.

pretty simple..

so you tell me. Is the set of all sets not belonging to themselves in the set, or is it not?

It's the biblical stuff that's hard. How a "certain one" can corrupt the temple.. creep in "unawares"..

look genuine.. but he can't be "counterfiet".. he's a speakin da word.. hear? he even speaks in tongues.. but if he has the real spirit, why doesn' he live like it? but that doesn't make any difference. Debils can't speak in tongues. He can't be a counterfiet.. he's a sspeakin da word. But why doesn't he live it? Why does he abuse people worse than a tyrant? Naw.. that can't be right.. must be counterfiet..

see, it's even worse than Russel's Paradox. If he's a man-o-gawd, he CAN'T be a man-o-gawd..

on the other hand, if he's NOT a man-o-gawd, he must be..

SELF PROCLAMATION is in a set all by itself and I hereby PROCLAIM that this set be set by itself to remain the set of all sets so that all can see its perfect set.

I was just wondering where you got that line from and with what authority dies it stand, i.e., what text is that from.

...and also, brideofjc, do you see the KJV contradictions that I mentioned earlier.

To which line would you be referring to kind Sir? The Greek line? I believe it is listed as 1 Corinthians 3:17

Or woulda you be referring to the English line, "Parse away, Parse away, Parse away all!?"

The ball is in yur court

I don't know about parsing, but I do see a usage of antanaclasis. Since it is in the same sentence, I don't think it's an anadiplosis..

but what do I know..

Calling "one niner-Hamm-whiskey runner-two fiver!!!! How's the weather up there?

Didn't find your anadiplosis, while they are similar forms of the same lexical base, one is present active and the other is future active.

As far as your antanaclasis, it died while trying to cross the intersection between the present and the future because here it failed

to realize that the intersection was the same while it thought it was a different one.

1 Corinthians

3:17 εἴ τις τὸν ναὸν τοῦ θεοῦ φθείρει φθερεῖ τοῦτον ὁ θεός ὁ γὰρ ναὸς τοῦ θεοῦ ἅγιός ἐστιν οἵτινές ἐστε ὑμεῖς

PARSE AWAY, PARSE AWAY, PARSE AWAY ALL!

I had to leave my house for a while to run an errand.

Now I have to search around to see if I have some pre-typed elaboration of that passage somewhere.

How's the suspense building?

Either you have the goods or you don't!

Your call, Mr. Exegesis.

i think what hurt the most in the end was my bible,after a few years after i left twi i got it out and blew off

the dust,tried to get into a simple local church and the spiritual warfare would just go thru the roof,constant

battle!

My therapist held on to it for me because it was driving me crazy,like a road map with WTF directions .

One day and we had been thru hell and back (my therapist and i)I wanted my bible back and she said are you

sure about that?..................................long silence. yes

So i just held it quietly,then slowly flipped thru pages,all the markings standing in hilights like scars,and i

said "this is the word of God"and ripped it to shreads.papers flying EVERYWHERE,I couldn't stop,couldn't hear,

think and broke something glass ,then cut my wrist,so she is on the phone to get the ambulance pronto,while

in my head i am thinking of jumping out a window,(whew,what a day)

So the story gets longer but that is what happened because i had a hard time expressing anger,i let it build

up til it exploded ,i am just glad it wasn't a gun to my head.

I have a new bible now.

Well, mine seems tame to all of that! Yet, for a long time there was bitterness about the loss of years that I spent directly in TWI and then the same amount of years in an offshoot. But the Lord is faithful and I'm sure He can even take all of these bad experiences and use them for His glory somewhere down the road.

I should have added to this to my last "other" post as well....

Not only did the HOLY SPIRIT rescue me from the CRAPPER, He cleansed me with the

PRECIOUS BLOOD OF JESUS, and then WASHED me with the washing of the REAL WORD.

and then he put me on the right road...ya know....the straight and narrow one.

And along those lines, vp's practice of showing his favorite porn video and quoting "unto the pure all things are pure" to justify his sexual immorality come to mind…Perhaps all the crap leaking out of the Lock Boxes now – is God's way of ruining his "man-of-god" persona. He brought it on himself…Check out verse 17 in another translation:

I Corinthians 3:17 Holman Christian Standard Bible

If anyone ruins God's sanctuary, God will ruin him; for God's sanctuary is holy, and that is what you are.

[edited for those who feel safe with TWI or PFAL ]

Did he actually show porn videos? Was that what went on at the night owls? I always felt that he was showing the class "Christian family and sex" to see if anyone was open to the spirit of lust. What I think is interesting is that the Greek word is "porn-ay". So if he was then showing further videos, that was to fully indoctrinate the victim so that they wouldn't think it was strange when the moves were made on them.

Thanks PB

It seems apparent that Authoritarian Rulership (religious or political).....where strict, unbending policies and dominant rule overpower and castigate individual and community freedoms.....is a bondage and enslavement towards the independent-willed and revolutionary types.

Thus, when I look back at my twi tenure......I see Wierwille fixated on UNCONTESTED CONTROL.

Ahhh, but is this not then just the back swing of the same pendulum?

Note: this is not a defense of TWI, by any stretch of the imagination.

Ham, this is where the doctrine, the knowledge of twi led us. All of the focus on speaking in tongues, on knowledge of the scriptures, on operation of principles, the application of immutable laws, the perfectly in order physicals.

If galatians is to be believed, I think that wierwille missed the boat spiritually and led a lot of people down the toilet with him.

Hey, Rascal....just Praise the Lord!

At least with me.....SOMEONE FORGOT TO FLUSH THE DAM THING!

I remember all too well, how excited I was to finally be able to purchase my very first KJV Bible with REAL kid leather at the

BRC at the Bible Table. I think back then it was a whopping $60.00, (now I know they had a huge mark-up on it as well).

You know...I still have it. I once in anger was going to delightfully rip each and every page out of it (I already had a new one anyway) and burn it, but

the Holy Spirit wouldn't let me. Today, I'm kind of glad He wouldn't let me. I use it today now to compare the blatant errors in all of the notes that I

so diligently wrote down in the margins.

I also look at the destruction or the deconstruction of the Word of God (TWI did it blatantly and with full knowledge) (I did it ignorantly not understanding

how I was being led) as TWI breezily declared this verse was a FORGERY and this word was ADDED. The sum total of which...we were

ARROGANTLY instructed to do what?

SCRATCH IT OUT!

Today, I look at the TOTAL INSANITY hidden behind those actions and those instructions. Are there some pis s poor translational moments? Yes.

Are there some really sloppy exegetical additions? Yes. Are there deliberate instances of eisegesis? A definite yes. And yet...

Even now, after learning how to translate the Greek Scriptures into the host language, that being English....I do not totally BLACK OUT the verse, but

I lightly draw a line through the word or phrase that was poorly translated and then I write next to it, what the Greek phrase is, in Greek and then the English

translation. Or if a Greek word should have been rendered as 'subjunctive' and the KJV rendered it as an 'indicative', I show my supportive documentation of

why the KJV translators chose the wrong mood.

When the Holy Spirit began moving upon me to deal with MY ARROGANCE in following those INSANE instructions, I've had to repent several times and

deep within my SOUL, I've had to face the fact that I also deconstructed the WORD OF GOD. As I said, I still have that Bible and I use it now as a teaching

tool for myself and for others if the opportunity arises. VP contaminated so many young and eager-to-learn minds believing that we were being given

BREAD, but really he was feeding us SCORPIONS, and breathing onto us HIS SPIRIT of total ARROGANCY AND REBELLION towards GOD HIMSELF.

So after all of that...do any of you still have your BRC purchased KJV Bibles? Have any of you had to repent for allowing yourself to be blindly led?

Helloooo....

One the thread Are the Dead Alive Now there was a discussion about what the soul is. I read some very interseting comments about what people think the soul is, and I wanted to share what the Bible says about it. I know that many, when referring to "soul" consider it to be an essence or some other intangible thing, but as you all know about me by now, I am really into what the Bible says about stuff, so I want to share with you all some verses about the soul, and soul life.

I have come to believe the way teaching on three-fold man - Body, Soul and Spirit - is up there with the earth being flat and the moon being made of cheese.

Well, then you had better throw away your Bible, Rachel. Cuz, it's in there! Although to be more accurate, TWI didn't truly teach a trichotomist view,

they only taught a quasi-tri view because they failed to acknowledge that mankind also has his own spirit. What died the day that they sinned was the connection point

to the Holy Father, and that was HOLY SPIRIT. Not their own little 's' spirit, but the one and only, HOLY SPIRIT.

I understand the reasoning behind the soul as the essence of man, and I believe that to be self-awareness, consciousness - The knowledge of ourselves. The thing that "They" say makes us better than an animal. (As I think about this, I realize it may be the knowledge that we die). Anyway, here it is Gang...

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Here is the first usage of soul in the Book. Adam had no life in him, then God breathed into him and he became a Living Soul, as opposed to a dead one.

Yes, Rachel and you should have read what I wrote to T-Bone. God had to BREATHE (His Spirit) into that hunk of clay AND THEN man became

a LIVING SOUL. If BODY IS SOUL, then as soon as God formed man out of the dust of the ground, ADAM should have already been alive. You know, I think God knew

what He was doing, Rachel.

Gen 34:2 And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, prince of the country, saw her, he took her, and lay with her, and defiled her.

Gen 34:3 And his soul clave unto Dinah the daughter of Jacob, and he loved the damsel, and spake kindly unto the damsel.

Yes, and to LOVE someone and be attracted to them happens in the SOUL AREA. The BODY merely performed the ACT OF SEX, but HE LOVED her with

HIS SOUL.

In this second example, Shecem had sex with Dinah. It says his SOUL clave to her. And it did, when they were getting it on...Clave literally means to cling to and stick together with.(Yummy)

Yes, 95% of the sex act happens in the SOUL AREA. That's why if a man doesn't ENGAGE a woman's SOUL or mind, she can just lie there like a piece of wood

no matter what HE DOES WITH HIS BODY.

Lev 7:20 But the soul that eateth of the flesh of the sacrifice of peace offerings, that pertain unto the LORD, having his uncleanness upon him, even that soul shall be cut off from his people.

Where does SIN happen, Rachel. Didn't the Lord Jesus say that SIN first happened in the HEART? And then worked itself out into the BODY? Yup!

In this last example, it says a soul can eat...It also says if a soul eats a sacrifice while being unclean would be cut off from his people. Literally that means to be expelled from the city.

Now, I have absolutely no issue with the opinion that that the soul is seperate from the body, part of the so called 3-fold being. If folks believe that - Great. But it is not biblical. The Bible does not teach that the soul is somehow seperate from the body. It teaches that the soul is the body.

No, it does not Rachel. You can't have an acknowledgement from the Lord Jesus that the body and soul are separate and then say it is not Biblical.

I think I would rather heed what the Lord Jesus is saying and I think you should too. It really is in black and white; that is in print form.

There are 453 usages of soul, and 98% of them read like these 3 examples. I think Roy cited a verse where Jesus said (Mat 10:28) And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

I see that in this verse 2 different words are used for body and soul, and they do not mean the same thing. After really looking at this, I think (I may be wrong) that someone can literally kill your physical body, but not what you stand for - Your HEART, whether it be good or evil. Don't fear man. But rather fear God Almighty, because he can kill your body, raise you up and put you in the Lake of Fire or the Kingdom of God with your essence - What you stand for, whether it be Good or Evil.

IF BODY AND SOUL ARE THE ONE AND THE SAME THING, HOW CAN YOU KILL THE BODY, BUT NOT THE SOUL? The heart (not the pumping one) is the

SOUL and this is what the Lord Jesus was talking about.

The word for soul in Matthew is the same word used here for heart:

Eph 6:6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;

And here for mind:

Act 14:2 But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles, and made their minds evil affected against the brethren.

Php 1:27 Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

Heb 12:3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

So, while Jesus referred to the soul in Matthew 10 as something distinct from the body, I don't think it was talking about something seperate from the living person or in the case of "mind" but a will to do something, whether it be good or evil.

You're right, Rachel, that is why when the body DIES, the SOUL can be said TO HAVE DIED, because it has no venue in which to be seen anymore. It is the

SPIRIT of mankind INTERACTING with FLESH that then PRODUCES THE SOUL.

I want you all to know I really enjoy the Cafe and all of the diners.

Peace,

Rachel

Yes, and God Bless you as well, Sister. I love you and study hard. Be willing to be under the tutelage of the HOLY SPIRIT and HE will lead

you into all TRUTH, evan as promised in the Gospel of John.

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Thanks, Roy! Good stuff!

Geez, this could really get complicated if the sexotomist was also an annihilationist with a gambling problem – with the stakes set at double or nothing, we'll either find a twelvefold being or a void at Caesar's Palace.

I Thessalonians 5:23 may also be understood as an emphasis on the wholeness of human nature – noting how the sanctification process touches every dimension of life…I suppose we could have even more components than a trichotomist's model. By adding the heart, soul, and mind of Matthew 22:37 with which we're to love God – to the strength in Mark 12:30's commandment of loving God – and assuming body and spirit are a given – we come up with a six-fold model of man.

I'm of the opinion that Paul had a dichotomist's view of man from passages like Romans 8:10; I Corinthians 2:11; 5:3-5; 7:34; II Corinthians 7:1; Colossians 2:5.

There's an interesting use of soul and spirit in the gospels. Mark 10:45 says Jesus gave His life [psuche – soul] as a ransom; in John 19:30 He gave up His spirit [pneuma]. It's possible the terms may sometimes be used interchangeably.

I dunno…here we are fallen creatures trying to understand our own nature. In a discussion on the nature of man, Norman Geisler refers to Karl Barth on the issue:

"…In these circumstances how can we possibly reach a doctrine of man in the sense of a doctrine of his creaturely essence, of his human nature as such? For what we recognize to be human nature is nothing other than the disgrace which covers his nature; his inhumanity, perversion and corruption…But if we know man only in the corruption and distortion of his being, how can we begin to answer the question about his creaturely nature?"

From Systematic Theology, by Norman Geisler, Volume 3, page 75.

…anyway – I'm with you – we see through a glass darkly.

love & peace

Just to add some more to the plate........

and assuming body and spirit are a given – we come up with a six-fold model of man.

T-Bone....would that be a "SEXOTOMIST?"

Oh, for the joy of sex, huh?

sadly, the "contest" looks like a group of men wielding clubs.. with bystanders taking bets on who is going to be the last one left standing..

it USED to be, he who knew more greek words and memorized enough of old "doc"'s stuff had the bigger club.

It's not the Greek words, Ham, it was the doc's stuff that did everyone in and led to spiritual bondage.

And what was worse, we were young and we followed and we willingly put on our own personal set of spiritual blinders

thinking that we would be able to please God.

I don't think God is a Union member...

Sure he is Jonny! Haven't you read Psalms? "I poured out my complaint before the Lord..." "I cried unto the Lord and He

hear me."

T-Bone when you write, you really write!

Interesting thread…I used to believe in a threefold composition of man [body, soul & spirit – a trichotomist view] – but now lean toward a twofold model [body & soul – a dichotomist view], in keeping with the Hebrew thought of seeing the unity of God's creation. Genesis 2:7 God formed man of the dust of the ground [material] and gave him the breath of life [immaterial] - man became a living soul.

And yet, one must deal with the Apostle Paul's writing and who I believe was led by the Holy Spirit when he wrote 1 Th 5:23

and one could argue the point in the differences between Hebraic and Greek theological systems, but Paul was a Hebrew of the Hebrews and would

have been very familiar with what today we call the dichotimist view and he would also have been very familiar with the trichotomist viewpoint as well since

his family was part of the diaspora and so Paul was Hellenized. Yet when he wrote Thess, he could have chose to introduce Hebraic thoughts on the

subject, yet the HS led him to pen the Tri view.

On the contrary view, while the normal state of man is admittedly a union of soul and body, the possibility of disembodied conscious existence is firmly held, both on the analogy of God's existence as pure spirit [man being made in his image] and on the basis of such passages as Hebrews 12:23 and Revelation 6:9-11…

But what exactly is that "union"? I do not believe that Elwell means it to be the one and the same. But the union occurs because

the spirit of man had entered into the flesh thus producing the soul of mankind. Because if humankind is made in the image of God, as listed above,

"pure spirit", then it must needs be that there is also a "spirit" inside of mankind. Thus 1 Th 5:23 holds true. What two parts united to form the soul?

Was it not spirit entering into the flesh? Therefore, it should be noted that body and soul cannot be the same because one came first and then the other.

I would also add that the writers of the first testament didn't have all of the pieces, but had to wait for the fulfilling of the Scripture and the coming of

the Savior. It was at Pentecost that re-introduced the HS to humankind and then the understanding that humans were really three part beings. Just

like even now we also, although we have a fuller revelation than what Isaiah or Jeremiah had, we also are still looking through darkened glass at the

concepts of eternity. I am sure we will all be thrilled when the full revelation is finally understood. Blessings.

Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

ok either this is the last trump or the last trump is not what we think it is

Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will show thee things which must be hereafter.

o no here another trump after the last so either we each have our own last trump making God's Word more personal or Revelation 1:10 was not the last trump

Hey, Roy....these verses contain a figure of speech called "simile" which means that the key words that mark it off are

either "like" or "as", and it is describing or modifying that which goes before.

"and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet," and

"and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me;"

This merely describes how the great voice sounded, Roy. It does in no way state that it is the last trump.

Blessings

Roy, I think if you read what I wrote it is apparent that by "going back to what it was" implied being a dead soul.

but talking about the bible being simple you have not deal with the open graves of Matthew 27:52-53

I will not deal with this. My choice, Roy. You can't make me. (Hint>Forgery?)nor have you show us what the last trump is

Forgery? Does this come forth from RachelWorld? My Greek NT has what is called a "Textual Apparatus" which is

a series of scholarly notes of various translational readings, listing them according to Papyrii number, lists Lectionary notes, highlights

differences such as choice of Greek words in the variant mss, etc. It does list Mt. 27:52-53, and that it concurs with Ezek. 37:12.

So then you must be prepared to concur that Ezek 37:12 is also a forgery as well. In the Greek text proper above, it does not put

brackets around these verses to indicate a "traditional rendering" and therefore, the scholars seem to concur that it is a valid verse.

Did this come forth from WayWorld. VeePee seemed very breezy as well as when he didn't like certain verses of Scripture, he was all

too free in claiming it was a forgery as well. If your idea has come forth from Wrongsville, Rachel, you should be scared...I mean really

scared. If you are being led by the Holy Spirit, He should be taking you to the point that you will concur with the vast majority of other

scholars. It is when we end up by ourselves with the lone translation that we should look around and wonder how we got there. If,

however, you can cite other scholary opinions on the subject of these verses being a forgery, I will be happy to link to wherever

you find it. Otherwise, dear sister, you are out there all by yourself. Please look around and realize you are standing alone.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

If I am reading this right, it says when God FORMED man from the dust of the ground, right? Then He breathed into him the breath of life, and THEN he became a LIVING soul.

I do not read anymore into this, but you may feel free to believe whatever you choose. Have at it.

If you will take the time to research the word soul in the bible, you will see that it is talking about a literal body. You have to make your own choices on this - I have made mine. In RachelWorld, Soul=Body. Amen and Amen.

Rachel

RachelWorld? Shouldn't it be GodWorld? Who are you anyway? Shall the clay tell the potter...? Dear Sister, I have!

You need to read and reread 1 Thess 5:23 there are three components to humans...I didn't write it, but the Holy Spirit did. Shouldn't

it be self-evident that your thinking should line up with what the bible says and not that which comes forth from RachelWorld?

OK Gang,

I will give a reply, addressing everything you want addressed.

I BELIEVE...

There is a Ressurection - Actually I believe there are 2 Ressurections but I will keep this simple. I believe that when a soul (Body) dies it is dead. Literally and Figuratively. I am very specific about the soul - Man Became a Living Soul, right? So, what was he before that?

Dirt, Right?

The Bible says in Genesis Dust thou art and to dust thou shalt return. So I believe when a soul(body) dies it goes back to what ADAM was before God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. Did Adam have conscienceness before that? I don't think so. I believe the EXACT same thing happens to Man (Adama) when it dies. No consienceness. But at the Ressurection(s) all that a dead soul(body) was will be revived - almost like that original Adam the first time, just like Jesus at His ressurection. He was dead, no thought in his head those 3 days he was dead.

That is what I believe. And to the folks RUNNING to I and 2nd Peter, watch the word "when" about when Jesus went and preached to those spirits in prison. I clearly says he did this when the ark was preparing - being built.

So There.

Rachel

Rachel, you're a real card. But be careful, someone else may have the ace up their sleeve and TRUMP you! LOL. You made me

laugh [with you, not at you] with your last paragraph because that was exactly where I was headed.

But and however...there is always one or more of these. Look at the wording in 1 Peter 3:18

For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which (Spirit) [,] also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; (semi-colon) Which [better translated as "who"]

sometime were disobedient when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

The text does not state that Jesus preached to the spirits in prison during the days of Noah. The text states that "the spirits (who are now in prison) were

disobedient during the days of Noah, which is why they didn't make the boat on time. LOL.

So Rachel, how if as you state...the dead know nothing....could Jesus (by the Spirit) go and PREACH (now that takes some thought action) to spirits who

were in prison. How did they hear if they know nothing? Dear sister, your confusion lies in the fact that you are not separating body and soul. To call a human being a "living soul or a dead soul" is what I would call using a colloquialism. The people of past eras who tried to be biblical, sometimes wanted

to speak like the Bible spoke...and so they adopted some of the phrases such as from the account in Acts and Paul's shipwreck, where the text states

that all 116 SOULS stayed alive. They stayed alive (so to speak) because the body did not perish by drowning and therefore the SPIRIT didn't leave the vessel that it was housed inside of. Oft times, when a phrase is adopted, after some time has passed, the origins become dim and the phrase begins to

take on other meanings that were never intended. This is one of them I do believe.

You are making them one and the same and therefore when the body dies, you are equating that the soul is dead. In a way, you are right in that the soul is no longer evident because the flesh is now dead. In the first place the body is merely a vessel that carries the important things, i.e. our spirit which is what formed our SOULS in the first place. Another aspect one can look at is OUR SOUL is the physical expression of OUR SPIRIT. You cannot see your spirit, but you can see and hear the manifestation of said same by listening to yourself or other's souls. When the vessel that is carrying our spirit dies, the spirit leaves and of necessity one can say that the SOUL DIED. The manifestation of our spirit DIED, or left the immediacy of the earthly realms, but since the SPIRIT is eternal, the soul doesn't really die either. Because if you could have the power to inject that spirit into another piece of flesh... guess what? The flesh would come alive and VOILA! a manifestation of SOUL would become evident.

This is why when God, who is SPIRIT, breathed into....Adam...HE BECAME A LIVING SOUL. God, who has the power to inject spirit into a hunk of

flesh, breathed into that piece of flesh that we later came to know as Adam and then the SPIRIT became manifest or evident as SOUL and we called that

SOUL, ADAM! Conversely, when ADAM BREATHED (spirit) his last breath, the manifestation of his spirit (that is SOUL) LEFT when the SPIRIT left. It left

the vessel lying dead on the bed and which was then buried back into the earth from which it came and soon melted back into the earth.

Rachel, this is by no means a judgment of you, nor of any others nor even of myself. But I would highly recommend taking at least a beginners

Greek class. Sad to say, maybe because of the dumbing down of America...most people do not understand even their own language. I know I

didn't. I thought I did until I began to take Greek class in Bible college. THEN WERE MY EYES OPENED! lol I then of all things began to understand and appreciate my own language and understanding the parts of it, by learning another more complicated and highly inflected language, i.e. Greek.

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Here'e the thing about that, Oak. When I said go get ONE dead person, I mean it. Not something conjured, now. So because of the putrification factor, let's say they can't be dead more than 48 hours. Get one of those dead up, and talking' buddy. See what they say. Have words, breath, air...Ooops. If they are breathin' then they aren't dead. Damn. O well. Try it anyway, can't be too hard to find some newly dead soul (Body)

Rachel

(Just Clownin Around>>>>>Rachel does the Snake dance like Chris Tucker idn Rush Hour )

Soul is not body...even the Scripture that Paul wrote of when he was saved along with 116 souls or so. Soul is what makes

us who we are, or basically our personalities, which is why there isn't anyone else just like you, so it is not the body that makes alive the soul. Again, when God breathed into Adam or the hunk of hamburger or chunk of clay that God had just formed, it was the entrance of God's Spirit that made Adam jump up and say, Hallelujah! Geez Dad, I'm hungry! LOL

The spirit of man remained even after the fall, what died that day was the lost connectivity to the Holy Spirit of God.

I also do not believe that we will be floating around on clouds strumming our harps...I mean...how God Awful boring. After all, the God of all the

Universe....when I see His handiwork in the millions of different buggies and they each have their own unique habitat...I think that God will be able

to make a heaven for us right here on earth. In fact, this is what I believe that Heaven and Earth will become one...no longer will there be a

separation between the two and we will be able to pass through if you will, even as Jesus suddenly appeared to His Disciples, yet He was also able

to eat food and to be touched and obviously He felt real to His disciples, because at the first they thought He was a ghostly apparition. Otherwise,

if indeed it is not upon this earth, why bring up that He will make rulers over 5 cities or of 10? Does Heaven need any other ruler but God?

All I know is I remember all too well when I was working towards my Master's degree that I received an email

from a degree mill wanting me to take their classes....and I was so stressed out writing my thesis papers that I actually brought it

up at class one day...because quite honestly I didn't know such things existed. I really need to get out more, I guess. And the

Doctorate from Scotland looked at me and said..."Are you depressed or something?" I had to laugh. But if only he knew....

Is ther a degree in squirrelogy Mr Hammroni?

I believe there is....from NHU, that is...NutandHoney Univ.