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  1. wow safari please tell what happened !!!!

    Here you go exie

    http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...ndpost&p=227238

    CK, I'll give you credit.............You keep asking questions. One thing I think you really need to relize. This is a "Anti"twi website. Why is it Anti. Well I think if you could take any of what happened to people here you may start to see the light. This web site is to bring out what happened to people while in twi.

    One thing I think you fail to see. These people here are your brothers and sisters in Christ. It was not vpw's idea to love his sisters and brothers in Christ but to abuse them as he saw fit for his own benifit, nothing more and nothing less.

    This web site is for many types of people. So they can find out information, help them get out, heal from abuse and for fellowshiping with eachother. This site is not a "Pro"twi wesite.

  2. Exactly WW. They could walk by the 5 senses or old man all they wanted. There is the double standard again. To where we had to "walk by the spirit" 100% of the time. If we did not we rere reemed. Again they wanted us to do the impossible.

    Furthermore, experience from the mog was to be embraced

    without question as well. vpw was entitled to go anywhere

    and do anything, and we were to be thankful he did.

    Racetracks, porn shops, wherever.

  3. Second James,

    I don't know that I even understand your question. I don't believe in things that I have no evidence of. Simple, no? I don't view that as being "negative" - just honest. And as long as you're apparently still adamant about spreading your sympathies around, I guess I'll reciprocate and say that I'm sorry that you can't seem to understand that viewpoint.

    What I DO find difficult - and for me it WAS a very negative experience - is doing all sorts of mental gymnastics in order to try to make the God of The Bible seem like a reality, when so many things in my practical, everyday life would contradict that notion (this is where you get to pound your chest and tell me about how your faith carries you through in spite of that stuff, and you're SORRY that I don't have enough of that).

    The more I think about it the sillier religion becomes, SORRY, it just does...

    George, I know exactly where you are comming from, even though I do believe in God.

    All you have to look at is how well the twi higher-up's handled gawd. The ones who supposed to have that direct connection to God. The ones in power that drove twi almost into oblivion. The people that raped, stole pure hearts and slandered peoples names all in the name of God. We were supposed to look up to these people for spirtual insight and to just take their words as Gods words.

    Through all this mess that I have had to sort through since learning what I have learned through WD and GSC. I have wondered if there is a God at some points. For whatever reason I still do believe in a loving God and the thoughts I have about God are strong. Maybe it is my own version of God that I have because I really do not know what to believe from the bible. I guess that is why I have not stepped into a Sunday service any place to worship Him since leaving twi in 1986.

    I left right after POP was read to the clergy. I never knew it but I felt that my inner voice was of God and still believe today that was the voice of God telling me to run as fast as I could. That voice I trusted and I listened to I belive was from God. As I learned in 2000 at WD and all that was wrong with twi. I believe God knew why he spoke to me and I would find out later. My point of all of this...........I believe God told me to run even though I did not understand why at the time. I just ran. Hope this makes sense :blink:

  4. And yet I've shown it to a number of people from other denominations who have thought it was fantastic, so go figure.

    Maybe it's a bit of the 'familiarity breeds contempt thingy ' ??

    Or incest :blink:

  5. topoftheworld. Aww so sorry for the loss of your kitty.

    Here is a poem that Radar and I hold tight to our hearts. Ohh so it to be true.......We believe it is............

    Rainbow Bridge

    There is a bridge connecting Heaven and Earth. It is called the Rainbow Bridge because of its many colors.

    Just this side of the Rainbow Bridge, there is a land of meadows, hills and valleys with lush green grass.

    When a beloved pet dies, the pet goes to this place. There is always food and water, and warm spring weather. Those old and frail animals are young again. Those who have been maimed are made whole again. They play all day with each other.

    But, there is one thing missing. They are not with their special person who loved them on earth. So, each day they run and play until the day comes when one suddenly stops playing and looks up. The nose twitches, the ears are up, the eyes are staring, and this one suddenly runs from the group.

    You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. Your face is kissed again and again and again; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the eyes of your trusting pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

    Then you cross the Rainbow Bridge together, never again to be separated.

    - Author Unknown

    RIP Sweet girl Mrs. Wiggins

  6. I don't know what you can get at your store but here is a chart. I do by mine Nutro at a pet food store. Check out this link and you can see the difference in foods.A lot of food says it contains chicken but see if it says by-products. If it does you are getting chicken yep you really are, the only thing that the law is as far as the by-products is that it does not have poop in it. It can have any part of an animal. The parts of the chicken you are getting is beaks,feet and other worthless parts.

    http://www.feedmypet.com/dog-food-comparison.html

  7. Twi has been voted the #1 Religion by "Churches of the Christ" news paper. It states that it is beloved by thousands of followers and could soon be a main stream religion. Here is the link. Un freakin real.

    TWI is #1

  8. If I believed that all truth learned in the way were full of weakness as you do Tom then that would be true, Yes, But I am not of that opinion I am perfectly happy to use the good building materials freely available.

    "FREELY" :blink:

  9. WD, Thank you for answering my questions. One last question fer ya(I think). Do you know anyone that is a more "stand up" person than vp? Who says more truth? I hope so. I guess I could quote you the bible and then do terrible things to you and your family(rape, ruin and destroy their and your lives). You would be here defending me saying justloafing speaks the truth. I would bet you would have nothing good to say about me.

    Of course I would not do anything to hurt you or your family!!!

  10. See there is where you error, you assume things I did not say. I never said that speaking truth made anyone ok or that it did not. I said when and where truth is spoken it remains true despite, independent of, regardless of any of man's actions. If you change it you do not have truth. I know you get this, the very fact that you admit that the devil speaks truth tells you that it must be possible to speak truth and not have moral values change it. I also never said that just because a source of truth exists that, one would necessarily want to use that source. That said it still does not make what they said untrue.

    As you would note. I did say truth was truth. Why do you give the credit to vp for speaking the truth and hold him in reverence?. Why not just quote the bible since that is the ultimate truth?

    Do you think he did anything wrong wd? If so can you list what he taught that was wrong or the things he did wrong? If half the things that I have read about how he wronged people are true. I think almost if not all of them are true. If someone is a liar and a known liar. Why should we believe anything that came out of vp's mouth?

    WD, yes truth is truth but lets give credit where credit is due and it is not from vp. There are many other places to look for the truth. Look at what he did with the truth.

  11. Rascal this is simple if one speaks truth then it is truth. It is not dependent on anything I, you or anyone else can do, it does not change truth. It does not make one a good or bad person, thats another issue. Nor does being a good or bad person change truth. Truth is a constant, like gravity it is not susceptible to change by mans actions. You can have a good person speaking truth or a bad person speaking truth,a dog could speak truth if he could talk.......

    Well then I guess from the way you are saying this, the devil is okay because he speaks truth too. :evilshades:

    I guess it is okay to speak some truth no matter what the motive is? Yeah I know truth is truth but when spoken with a forked tounge that is okay with you too.

  12. Does anybody's moral character make the truth a lie?

    I can only answer that with what the bible says:

    QUOTE

    Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. Romans 1:25 (KJV)

    Who changed the truth of God into a lie? vp did........come into my motor coach and let me bless you. Yep that is what some here said he said to them.

    and worshipped and served the creature more than the creator? vp did.....vp was of the flesh not the spirit. He would do almost anything to save his name. He was a very sick man who cared only for himself and his needs.

    WD that verse points out vp very nice.

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