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  1. Glad you're covered but make sure the bickering you see isn't due to your stubbornness to not consider a better option.
  2. So our alternative is oblivion over a cheaper alternative that can be shut down or complained about with donated funds from the about 100 members of the site? Cool. The Way and the splinters win. Game over. Glad I had a say in it. And no I really don't care if you take offense. You didn't care to ask me for alternatives or help first. Why should I care if you are offended? If you don't have more money host the damn site on SiteGround, put up a disclaimer that all content is opinions of members and not endorsed by site management and then good luck at Jean Yves m
  3. Some imagery development .....
  4. Ummmm. https://www.siteground.com/phpbb-hosting.htm Order of magnitude there. Just saying.
  5. I've got to tell you about this guy I was "witnessing to" or whatever it is you want to call it one time. I was having lunch with this Moslem - very kind soul. The conversation came around to God and religion. I was describing to him my faith. He related to me some of his faith, and where it led him. One very interesting path is that he received a telephone call from someone from his home country (Iran) for charitable donations. Instead of blowing them off or blindly giving money he decided he wanted to be involved. The charity was one that placed homeless children from back home
  6. A few things start to emerge looking at all this confusion over the term "household" practically and people trying to figure it out from a cult background. One of the things to consider is that cults damage boundaries. Boundaries involve emotional intelligence and how you interact with other human beings. So people get stuck not seeing their own blindness.
  7. It's OK to have a title. It's OK to not have a title. And it's OK to lie about the fact that to you it's not OK to not have a title. But that's OK too, because it's really not your ego that is causing you to do that, it's audible revelation.
  8. Ah yes - the business of Way splinters. We've seen so many of these start up and fizzle out, I think we should help out by posting up some "franchise guidelines" for a Way splinter. HOW TO START YOUR Mc-Way Ministry franchise (T) (C) (R) Common elements: 501c - because you worked hard to take all those people away from the Way with their 15% conditioned giving. You should be rewarded for it, not the government. Board of Directors - you were subject to their petty displays of power for 30 years, now its your turn. It's just how it's done in the world. Every non profi
  9. Sounds like you are describing a temporary alliance which would explain the common Feb 2018 leadership event. What besides money keeps these knuckle heads from functioning interdenominationally as opposed to cult modus operandi?
  10. Or is there a merger in process? I mean they have to determine if helping the household means oikeos only household, oikeos plus RnR, or what household it is they mean exactly LOL
  11. The content, yes. The delivery is much more authoritative sounding. That and his energy is really popular with some. Annoys the living daylights out of me, but that's just flesh stuff. You know, OIKEOS to me is looking like "household" brand on the outside, but castaway thinking on the inside.
  12. And the teaching goes pretty rapidly south. "It's about obeying God first, individually, and then helping others in the household of faith do better. Titles aren't bad. It's OK to have a title. It's OK not to have a title. The key is what you do with your heart and mind." You see, for Rico, like for VPW, teaching solves everything. One of the first apologia teachings here, to sum up, is mildly introducing the fact that structure is good. It's OK to have titles. You know, like the ones we are making up in our new ministry, with me as President. You see, that title is OK, beca
  13. So I look at things like this: https://oikeos.org/teachings/series/mystery-minded-leadership-conference/ Branded oikeos. February 2018 Taught by Moynihan, Horney, Fort, Ryan, Rico So to me it looks like these guys are teaming up and forming a ministry. But maybe you know more.
  14. I wonder if the walls there echo as loud as the halls in the poem that VPW plagiarized from someone and entitled "The Way Corps"?????
  15. This is truly what I think the scripture means in I Timothy 1:19 when it speaks of: holding faith and a good conscience, which some, having cast away, have caused a shipwreck concerning the faith, That is from the Berean Literal Bible translation. I take both words faith there to mean the "family faith" or a figure of speech metonymy representing the collective body of Christ on earth today. The actions of these groups fulfill these scriptures. Christians, who are according to the extended figure, traveling across the high seas of life in a large boat. Together. In the s
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