Belle
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OM saidGeeze folks, if that's all God looked at and focused on in our lives, our evil works, our sins, our works of the flesh -- and condemned us forever because of it, then I think we are in some deep doo doo.
Come to think of it, he did look at all that ... and that's why he sent us a solution to all that ... he's called Jesus Christ.
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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John 3:16
OM, he also spent a great deal of time talking about the "flesh" and "evil works". Are you saying that John 3:16 is more important than raping young women? That that part of God's word is more important than the scriptures that tell us how to act and live?
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I'm not too good at big words like "conundrum" but I'll try. (thanks to www.dictionary.com)
;)-->I think with GSpot we are moving forward. Recognizing where we made choices that caused us to get so involved and then abused by TWI. We also learn to see the things that influenced us as we were growing and how absolutely evil the group truly is (and always has been). We are also in positions to help people who are also leaving TWI and moving forward with their lives. To me, GSpot is a great place for assistance in moving on and moving up in life.
Going back to TWI or any formal religious group that tries to manipulate or control or judge my life would be like willingly turning myself into a concentration camp or having my doctor turn me into some vegetable state.
People who claim to have the corner market on the truth or who act like they know better than I do what's best for my life send up red flags and sign the alarms. TWI was founded on lies and to even consider going back to a false foundation with people who refuse to admit and apologize for their treachery would be spiritual (and probably physical) suicide, imo.
That's probably more than you wanted to know, but I hope it answers your question. I'm not judging anyone, just my personal opinion.
Song, check your private messages.
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Sadly, I will not be able to make it due to several unexpected expenses that have come my way.
:(--> :(--> :(--> :(--> :(--> :(--> :(--> :(--> :(--> :(--> :(--> :(-->I was so looking forward to meeting everyone. I guess I'll just have to get a WOW mobile and take a tour of the states to get to see everyone face to face.
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Ummmm, OM, I don't know how to tell you this, but Paul repented. No one in TWI has repented or apologized, especially not your trusty ole slick vick. And Paul taught the word AFTER he repented. He changed. He then changed his life for the better and began helping others do the same. No comparison. Your analogy doesn't hold a single drop of water, or mint julep for that matter.
And, most people here would not take kindly to you comparing Paul with vic. I know I don't.
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I prefer to keep moving forward, not "going back" and not "returning" to anything related to TWI.
I've learned that TWI was founded on lies and other people's true research and hearts for God. I've also learned that there are a lot more people like that out there and that there are a lot more groups that are a lot better than TWI.
I was in a spiritual vacuum in TWI and I have missed out on so many great spiritual discoveries, re-awakenings and so much learning while I was in my TWI cocoon believing that there was nothing better out there.
There isn't one da*n thing they could do that would bring me back to that group. I do wish they would apologize and come clean with my ex so that he would see that I wasn't out of my mind and that he would start rebuilding the life TWI destroyed.
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Ditto Ditto Ditto what's already been said.
And I will add that if you don't feed the monster his posts will sink to the bottom of the page and slide off into the netherworld of page 2 and beyond.
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That was just typical of Way Corps elitism. Only certain individuals "worthy" to receive some more of the Word never taught.
But they are NOTHING like the RC's they love to bash. Right. I keep forgetting that. I'm so glad they remind us all the time.
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So they got rid of the BOT and all the RC's? All the nazi WC are gone? They are going to be apologizing to people who's lives they ruined and marriages they destroyed? They're going to allow people to choose who the leaders are? They're opening their financial books to the public? They're going to limit the amount of time people spend on staff and in top leadership positions?
Is that what you mean? If it's not, then it's the same old whited sepulchre, they just added a new coat of paint.
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Is the actual roast on Friday or Saturday? I only got a room for Sat and Sun nights. Planned to be there early on Saturday.
Do I need to adjust my schedule to be there on Friday? I don't want to miss anything!
And if we have pinto beans, we'll need bean-o if we're going to be hanging around together after the roast.
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I can bring cornbread! Is there anything else that we need?
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Alright, Chas! I'm convinced we have the same brain! You posted verbatim what I was thinking of posting!
I even called our twig "The Dead Sea" for the same reasons. I got people involved when practically no one else in our twig did and they left quickly when the screws and manipulation started becoming more obvious. Our WC leadership never did bring anyone the whole time.
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Roy, I think about this all the time. The key being "if you could get them to listen".
My husband wouldn't listen. I tried so many different things and ways to get through to him and none of them worked.
To the leadership? I just don't know how they sleep at night.
I have a lot more to add, but I don't have time right now. I'll post more later. Good questions, Roy.
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Looks like I'm going to drive since it will be cheaper than flying and then having to rent a car.
What do you still need for the weenie roast, Rascal?
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Another thing, Shaz, I don't know how close you and John are/were, but I can't stand it when people I hardly know tell me they love me. Heck, I don't even say that with my dearest friends.
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I don't know JL, never did and don't care to, but this reeks of the same attitude LCM spouted. Especially:
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As one who could very possibly be considered "the apostle to ex-Way saints,"
The only Napoleon complex infested people I have met have been from TWI, CES and other cult-like religions. The mainstream Christian churches are actually pretty warm and down to earth, if not vanilla in most ways.
I have found a church I like and the people are interested in helping all kinds of people from all walks of life, regardless of church/religious affiliations. I just don't think you find that in these "off shoots" (for lack of a better term).
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How's about post-piffle?
I can't remember EVER in my 15+ years with TWI having seen any WC bring a soul to fellowship, much less register one for a class.
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WWJLA, I plan to call you this week.
:D--> I'm really not as insane as my last e-mail sounded. 
:o-->I'll be flying in and renting a car. Where should I fly into and what should I bring? I can stop at a grocery store on the way to the park.
I can't wait to meet y'all in person! I've been lurking so long I already feel like I know everyone.
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One poor guy in our area never even got the confrontation with witnesses (bobbleheaded or not). He was kicked out and then a branch meeting was called so that the entire branch could hear the BC air all this poor guy's dirty laundry in front of all of us. I remember thinking, "Why do I need to know this?" and "What does his family think having to sit here and listen to all this about their husband/dad/son/brother/cousin/uncle/etc?"
He got divorced shortly afterwards - shock-shock. I wish I had spoken up or at least woken up then.
Chas, our stories are very similar about the confrontation. I kept maintaining that my actions were completely appropriate and pointing out the things that my HFC didn't do or did incorrectly leading to the problems they perceived were with me. No dice. You can't pin anything on a leader especially not a WC leader when you're non-WC. They are infallible apparently.
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I got so sick of those reminders of Joshua = #2, LCM = #2 bs teachings. But that does make rosa-lie #3 - does that mean TWI-ts will be COMPLETELY DESTROYED under her reign? GAWD, I hope so!
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Thanks, y'all!
I wish it was coming closer to my location so i could see it. I guess I'll have to wait until it's for sale on their site. Please let us know what you think when you do get to see it.
And, ckeer, thanks for the words of wisdom. I do maintain what I think is a healthy skepticism (sp?) about most everything these days.
;)-->2Life, I'd love to chat with you sometime about the things you've studied. I downloaded the EFT information and can't wait to look at it.
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Someone had posted a link to some local weather page that was "brought to you by" TWI.
And they did spend a lot of money advertising. That "pick of the week" b.s. cost them thousands of ABS dollars.
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Ex, I think you'd really like it. My cousin says it changed her life. I'm so jealous that she's seen it and I can't even find a flippin place around here to see it.
My cousin thinks this is going to be a catalyst for a great spiritual awakening in the US if not the world.
I'm very interested to see what Zixar thinks about the movie. It seems to be along the lines of Stephen Hawking meets Paul.
Chuck, thanks for the link! I home Imbus posts more information on what she got out of it.
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The innies left don't have the guts to ask any more. They've asked millions of times about DM and they get the verbal tapshoe with no answer. They know that they can't ask without getting the spotlight put on them and risk getting in trouble for something stupid.
The problem is that they don't see the respecting of persons and the inability to ask questions or disagree as red flags that something's not right. It's truly sad.
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As far as being "much easier to recover" because of that confrontation ~~~ I can only say it would have been MUCH easier if I left when I was first confronted in loving detail by loving folks outside TWI in '78 , '86 , '89-91 that TWI was a "dangerous cult". I dismissed those loving confrontations as personal attacks from the adversary and counted it all joy, worthy to be persecuted for His Name.
Tis so true, Song. I, too, wish I had heeded warnings. The odd thing with me, though, is most of my family and friends could see the control going on and just knew I would buck the system and bolt back to normal. I didn't though and by the time they realized I was in too deep to be my normal rebellious self it was too late to even be able to warn me. My response would have been very similar to yours.
I was thinking that people who leave of their own volition and especially when it's due to injustice and lies and such that they already have a leg up on those who were unjustly M&A and confused about why it happened to them and those who just kind of faded away.
The people M&A have to get to the point where they can see that it wasn't their fault and that the evil and wrong was in TWI and not with the person being M&A. There's an extra helping of lost self-esteem dumped on those.
I in no way meant for it to sound as though any recovery from TWI is easy. It's all difficult. I just think those who were kicked out because they were failing to live up to the completely unrealistic expectations of TWI have en extra dose of "hard" to handle.
My ex has been abused verbally and mentally by some in TWI. He has had his self esteem so destroyed by those people it makes me cry, but he still looks up to them like they are gods. If he were to get kicked out it would break his heart and I think he would have a nervous breakdown. It truly breaks my heart, but I tried to help and see where it got me? alone
You and I saw the abuse for what it was and took action. I think that's the healthiest way to leave.
Thanks for your posts. I really enjoy reading you.
p.s. I'm more redneck than southern belle, but Momma hasn't given up on me yet.
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How long ago were wayfers generally happy?
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I got in when things were starting to go downhill after POP. I didn't even know about it or what it was until WayDale.
There was definitely a "honeymoon" phase and then I started feeling the pressure to conform and turn my life over to TWI. Funny thing is I submitted and did and my life got progressively worse. I just don't understand how a normally rebellious lady like myself allowed that to happen.....
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