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I was reading a magazine,in it had interesting trivia,apparently in one of the early translations they left out a not in exodus,where god gave moses the 10 commandments,it says"thou shalt commit adulatory" 11 copies made it to modern day.Hmmmm you had to read it in the originals. See it is in the bible........... Goes to show you you can make the bible say anything you want to.

1Rst glad you had the courage to get the heck out. 2.Where does the so called one and only ones with the truth go around speaking curses? 3.I for one wish no evil on them,if they wish evil or speak evil about me that is thier problem 4.I speak to the "holders of the only truth" once in a while,as my wife goes to fellowship once in a great while.Is it hard on me?you bet but I can deal with it,though it does suck 5.After being "out" a few years,and yes thanks to greasespot,they the "only holders of the truth"will be held accountable the same as the rest of us Finally it is nice to be out of thier sphere of influence.Also bad things do happen to people,the twi,as well as everyone else. Oh high and mighty fellowship cowhatsis(co-ordinator) get a life you aint no different than the rest of us,remember we were all made the same in gods eyes? So give it a rest. The saying "holders of the only truth" if of course sarcastic,as did not the son on god ask what is truth. Directly to the way twi::let your people talk to whoever they want to it aint any of your freaking buisness You are a freaking control ministry,no wonder no signs and wonders,freaking let god be god and quit playing god

Yes,They were really great stewards of Gods money...... Several years ago,Now a big hotshot in twi,A mark wall!!e,bought a couple of us lunch at mickie dees, his comment at the time was twi does not care how we spend the money as long as we send in an expense report.I wanted to say ,well buy me a better car. That used to ge my gander,I live in michigan,It is a penusula,one way up one way down,Well our advances were always up north,no big deal for leadership brand new car,cruise control if they get a ticket,abs pays for it.The rest of us in our pos cars with quadzillion miles on them. Hell with the fleet twi had ,they could have given us thier old ones.... The leadership would come up here to our little houses,could not afford anything better,after all must abs.. and they would critize our little houses or cars,telling us we were not believing bigger... Then it was adapted to well it is a need for (leadership) to have the best... One time Lcm was all dressed up..He looked like sherlock freaking holmes!!! the money that must have cost was ridiculous.... yet i got reamed for buying a used s-10 with 153000 miles on it cause i took out a loan... Bitter no,But dammit God 1rst provides for us,then the church not a bunch of lazy good for nothings who will not do anything,and why should they? It is already in thier hands need a car? ok.Need a vacation? well that is outreach.Need some new clothes? Point is they twi was never held accouunable,when they were the person was kicked out... Vee pee,loy rosey, it is still the same,They are or were royalty they deserved the best,God forbid if they ever got in the valley of human need,the excuse oh,someone could harm me as after alll,I have such a great knowledge of the word. Hell tell that to Peter or paul and of of course jesus.....

It gave me another outlook on twi and it was no good..Waydale March april 2000,right before loy resigned Waydale was the voice of sanity. Twi had become a nightmare,controlling vindictive,actually still pis@@ me off to no end that I was that gullible to put up with that. Greasespot as you know continues where waydale left off.... Thanks Paw.......

I went to the grocery store sunday with my daughter,we ran into a greasespotter,so I began talking to him of course(I have only known him for almost 30 years)and along came a innies daughter,she is in college So she talked to my daughter who is also in college.Me,all I got was the "stare". So nope nothing has changed in cultland.BIG Rasberry PHHTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! see the spittle fly on that one! Kinder gentler ? To whom? To what? I knoww the dollars that are in my pocket they wantem in thiers!! Cause they do not care diddly about me. I was told if I left twi I would be isolated,left to the deevill to do as he would with me,and the kicker I would be waving my pee pee in Gods face,Kinder gentler,I do not think soo...

hi,As I have said on other posts open and honest,and I like oleblue eyes "I did it my way" twi hates that,And the avatar ole flick from a bugs life,He means well in the movie,he was not a hotshot just a guy getting by. Put the two together and you just about have my real name.You all here on greasespot are numero uno with me.

Thought I would bring this back...I donot want to go back and get my face melted from some inane thing that has no purpose other than harress.......

The fellowship leaders house was so clean was because all of us came over and cleaned it for her twice a month.A phhtttttt! to you barbra Oed111g

Mark walla@e hear me!! You are a bootheel!!Ok to appease the moderators an alleged one but one nevertheless

HAPPY NEWS YEARS to all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D

I will be home with my family,A smple quiet time. Wish I could give all of you a hug,A cyber hug will have to do!! HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D

Someone I know(way person) is a director for a city run domestic abuse house.It seems domestic abuse is on the rise,so the issue makes it in the local paper alot,this person is quoted alot,To the effect"Oh.We are always here to help,or people can always come to us"My comment to you here is,How does this person reconcile these comment to and about the way? My daughter says she does not see it way brain You are supposed to be compassionite in all areas

I like God too.but god is bigger than twi,twi was supposed to be for those who love God.What happens when that love is abused,callused,cold like the north pole?Do you continue pretending everything is okay? oh it is just me,they must mean well. twi is not like work it was supposed to be a calling,not an end all or a be all,where only the creme de creme are blessed rolling in the cashola being lords of Gods people.I say who the hell appointed them?Are they not held accountable the same as us all. No offense, it is people that make up any organization,the good bad whatever,to make it sing,or make it a hell,you choose.twi has, they choose to cover hide and deny,I do not in my life I deal with it,Remember aint nothing hid in Gods sight.It will come to light. An organization such as twi will continue,as the millions of dollars,is it honest? it it of good report?You judge for yourself,I have and found it wanting.Is the blessings of God still available? You bet.Is God still supreme? yep.It is scary sometimes outside the twi as they acted as a safety net.yep abuse you for awhile then come back for more, after all we taught you the word. Bottom line it is our choice not an organizations.take care all.

No one should be abused no matter what or how "good" his intentions were,it still is wrong.

They (twi) will do anything to stay around.remember the word survive we were not allowed to use it but they damn sure did when martin loy resigned.Big rasberry PHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Anyhoo............Merry Christmas!!!!!! And hell no I will never go back

Amen to that brother.

I cut my teeth on the beatles.. Well when I was in the service I bought my first stereo an 8 track with a bunch of bootleg beatle tapes....... John lennon for all his faults was a thinker his music was thought provoking....... The music lives on.........

Not to speak for Ham,i think he is taking a time out,He is a good person and a good friend,a very smart individual,i wish hom well.

Thin Lizzy,Hi if you are out there,When you are an ac you are held accountable to God ,so says twi and if if you fail to live up to thier expectations you are considered lower than whale dung. I am glad you are happy with twi.I was once too but after being scrutinized all the time for all the insignificant things my life became a hell on earth.Until one day I had enough and got out,it life has become exciting once again I have peace in my life mainly because someone is not yelling all the time. The ac was fun,I learnt alot,however it should be on the grace of God and his actions not on devlil spirits pronounced wrong on purpose. Yes there are spiritual influences but God is bigger and better. :D :D :D

Thin Lizzy,Am I to understand you have not taken the ac?

What about the graveyard right next to the fountain of living waters at twi? That was ok though yech!!

I think her last name is Thundercloud,I knew her and her mom pretty well

Happy Birthday Paw!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

Even though my wife is still in,I cannot and will not ever go back to the "ministry" Itallics are because it does not standfor god or his word,it is a coorporation with one purpose to make money.As such it does not care who is in it (people) as long as they are a warm body in servitude to the coorporation serving it self as it sees fit. The last ac I attended was the "weekends " three to be exact from hell more like it.When loy said the adultries were spiritual rather than physical I went what the h is up with this since corinthians plainly states it was of a carnal nature.He loy did not even say it was a allegory what?? I thought the ole boy has been horsing around and is trying to justify his actions. Ala! ligh@ a limb coordinator of michigan at the time said "If you do not think this is the greatest in the world today you have spiritual problems deep spiritual problems" I almost laughed out loud asI thught has he been smelling what he has been shoveling. The ac 79 was my best class asit got me to really love the old testament.am i thankful for what I learned? You bet.do I apply what I learnt ?Yes I do. By the way,thank you all for your replies,since being ou I consider all options,I still believe there are good people in the way same as there are good people in the rc lutherns ect

When I left twi in late 2000,If you were an ac grad you were responsible to god.Those that left were lower than dirt.does anyone know if this has changed? I know I am treated like crap even by B Je@@ My friend was not an ac grad and was allowed to have a mortgage and be in debt.He told me he would never take the ac because of it Twi is a repector of people