Nathan_Jr

Already did, but I'll warn you the discussion of the topic of the illusion of free will is contingent upon answering some lingering questions. Details are in the opening post.

You don't have to answer this, if you don't want to. Were you the subject of a study at UCSD? Or, did you receive treatment for anything there?

Pennies are the secret weapon for this shift. Did you convert any in your UCSD science club? Did you admit to them how you feel about confirmation bias?

I've wondered the same.

Did you convert anyone? Did you let them know how you feel about confirmation bias?

Did you meet Donald Hoffman?

Like who? Donald Hoffman?

Mike wanted me to start this topic so he can do what he does. What I want is to find out is who the other six "the men of god" are. Johniam said a music coordinator told him victor was "The 7th THE Man of God." Who is this music coordinator and who are the other six "THE Men of God"? I'm happy to discuss determinism and the illusion of free will, as long a we get to the bottom of this T7TMOG thing. This goes to the heart of cult manipulation and cult leadership and what it means to be a cult.

These are great questions. I've spent 50 years searching them again. Lot of deep searching again. Started before I was born. I've got lots of notes. HOWEVER, My main focus is in.... oh, God! So much BULLSHONTA!!!!

I can identify with you on every level here. I was even a professional in the trade. I learned to understand and appreciate a wide variety of wine, beers and spirits, even the ones I didn't like. But Drambuie always baffled me. I could never understand it nor appreciate it. Gross.

Were any of the grad students PhD candidates? Any of the scientists hold a PhD? Did you call them Doctor?

Mmmmm...refreshments! Like gin? And snacks?

Maybe I'll start one about translating the Lord's Prayer into glossolalia. That would really grate on wierwille sycophants, what with their hatred for the words Jesus spoke. Maybe I'll even translate some the oldest sayings in the Gospel of Thomas into glossolalia - those sayings predate Paul. Then I could could derail my own thread with a seminar on inflecting interrogatives while SIT. Boy, it'll be a dandy... it'll be a waterhead dandy!

You have? No thanks.

I can assure you, no one is scared of you. You can start a new topic. Or not.

I encourage you unto your edification to start a new topic on it.

Well, shoot a waterhead baby! i thought I was working on something original.

Has anyone ever translated English back into glossolalia? Something I'm working on.

That's the illusion. We all FEEL like we have free will. Why don't you start a new topic on this.

You do?

Uh-oh

I have found determinism can help me to be more compassionate.

You did? Where do you stand now? Free will or determinism? I'll tell you I am undecided, but I tend to lean towards determinism. Though, I find the issue fascinating, I haven't thought enough about it to discuss. It's all very complex.

Like how when victor put it all together - that was the original part. But that's not origination. That's derivation. Unfortunately, for victor, his wholly original man made teachings were the stupidest and easiest to refute of all his pedagogy.

Oh, the fetishizing of pedagogy. Beware those so eager to teach you. Why are they so eager to teach you?