Nathan_Jr

There has been so much darkness in the world lately. So much anxiety and uncertainty. So much bullshonta. But one thing endures, Waysider - the light in your posts.

Thanks, Joe. This is so interesting. One day there will be no living direct connection to vpw. Someone will have been taught directly from Vern, who was taught directly from vpw... the apostolic succession. But won't this be the same "tradition" of "religion" they are always defecating on? Do they believe PFAL is the Word of God? Do they believe PFAL is theopneustos, as Mike does? Either by implication or direct teaching?

Welcome, Joe! It’s a rebirth. Hallelujah! You’ve got to know what’s available before you can get it. I’ll tell you what’s available: Peace, Love, Power, Liberty and Abundance like it hasn’t been known since… before you joined the cult.

Mmmph

Right. I was attempting to echo that sentiment at the end of my post. One needs to put in the work and be accountable. Nobody can do it by themselves, but no one can else can do it for you.

Right. When it's life or death, if a feather is required for life, let it be a feather. The language of the Twelve Steps is "a Power greater than ourselves.. God as we understood Him." The first time I got sober I was 21. Newbies were sometimes reassured that God could be a chair or a feather or whatever. That didn't make much sense to me, but we were also advised to "fake it until we made it." (I was in no position to judge.) At the time, I was deep in the study of non-theistic Eastern thought, so God was neither conceptual nor personal nor a box-bound, barn-jumping cookie Nazi, as I was later "taught." The Twelve Steps requires work. Honest, fearless, humble, personal, introspective work. Sobriety, like democracy, requires hard work to maintain. A feather without work is dead. I went to meetings for a year or two. As it has been said of TWI, I was glad to get in, I was glad to get out.

I don't know why I am reminded of this, but somehow, someway, I think it's relevant... Lately my som has had lots of questions about why the world is burning and about claims people make and about the manifestation of stupidity all around him. Kids at school regurgitating what they hear at home. His mom and her cult regurgitating what they hear in their echo chamber of mmmph. And he feels baited and tested and awkward. I tell him it's perfectly ok to say, "I don't know." Especially if you don't. That there is a certain power and liberty and freedom in letting go. That there is a deep knowing in the acceptance of not knowing. I tell him not everyone really cares about finding out if someone really can or cannot jump over a barn. I tell him most people just want to beleeve. To find out if someone is worth having a conversation with, ask them, "If you were wrong about xyz, would you want to know?" If the answer is, "But I'm not wrong," walk away.

How will you know the landscape if you can’t use a rake? The rake reveals the landscape. The rake IS the landscape. See how that works with mathematical exactness and scientific precision? So accurate. So, SO accurate. Mmmmph.

Landscaping is the adventure.

Fits like a hand in a...

“His works were learnt from others thru plagiarizing“ Not quite. Though I get the point, it has been shown he didn’t understand what he was plagiarizing, hence the ill-fitting… well, you know.

It's a business opportunity for a struggling business.

I think he revealed himself in that thread from which you quoted him. On his profile page he posts his website. It's not a secret. It's the Doctrinal forum. Everyone has an opinion. Almost everyone is right and almost everyone else is wrong. Me and you, us and them. Many are here to "teach" - because rewards and demerits and all that. But some good discussions are to be had, also. It's no different than the earliest incarnations of the Church in the first and second centuries. Revvel's style is not to my taste. So, I don't engage. He doesn't seem eager to discuss and answer questions the way Socks and WordWolf might.

All this talk of tailoring reminds me… “Summer is a great time for adventure—and if you’re looking for a way to work hard, grow, and still have time to enjoy all that summer has to offer, we’ve got something for you.” The subtle art of manipulative propaganda: equating a summertime adventure with mowing grass and stringing chairs. The ol’ bait and switch. This works especially well if one has been conditioned to accept logical fallacies as mathematically exact and scientifically precise. A pillar of the foundational bullshonta is established (twice?) in session one. John 10:10, THEREFORE, there must be keys. Ummm… nope. That’s not how logic works. This fallacy is known as a non sequitur. And if you said “mmmph” to this bullshonta, then you could be easily seduced by such promises of adventure.

Yup. That’s the literal according to usage translation. Apparently, not all (without distinction?) workmen are worthy of their hire.