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  1. How else could it be but a downward spiral fading into obscurity and death? Rebuild what? Rebuild on what? The 1942 promise? The foundation of the entire enterprise from the very beginning is based on lies. All of it. Let them repent. Let them address their sins. Let them get honest. Then what? BUT let them WAKE UP to Truth. Let them truly get born again. Let them find out what that means. Only then will they be free to see that there is nothing to rebuild. All that will be left to do is fold. Until then, blindness, folly, death. *Thank you for every word you've ever written here, Skyrider.
  2. No worries! It doesn't even matter. Just morbid curiosity. Great suffering and calamity has befallen those leaders who condemned the accidental death of your branch leaders. I was hoping to read the public records and news media chronicles of their demise.
  3. Thanks, Chockfull. A mind filled with God's Word? Does that mean a mind filled with the Bible? Or does it mean filled with God's will? So much bull$hit it almost makes sense. A renewed mind is not one conformed to any doctrine, any book, any teacher - this is an enslaved mind. A renewed mind is one that is free and clear. Like a child's mind. Free to be in awe of the wonder of that which cannot be named.
  4. Ok. Fine. Let it be a figure of speech. Still, what does it mean?
  5. What a horror story! Abject wickedness. The leaders who condemned the your branch leader? Do you remember their names? Where they live?
  6. I realize this is a false, serpentine doctrine, but what does it mean?
  7. That sounds about right. Not matter the size and shape of he hand, they can MAKE it fit the glove. if the word of God is the will of God, I'm going with the will. The will of God takes the place of the absent Christ. This is what victor meant in the original.... I think. So much bull$hit, it's hard to know for sure.
  8. Perfect. Thanks. I agree. Vic's doctrines were goofy non-sequiturs, including this one. So, according to victor, the word of God replaces the carnal, fleshly Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, who is obviously absent in the five senses realm. What do you think he meant by "the word of God?"
  9. Cman is asking why is there a return if he's NOT absent. Regardless of his function, he is NOT absent, right? Or is he absent because of his function? Maybe these questions were answered and I missed it. Could you explain? Pretend I'm a golden retriever.
  10. Right. I got that from the beginning. The food just brought me to the thought that labels are a product of our conditioning. Labels are insufficient and usually problematic, divisive and destructive for the labeler and the labeled. Whether we realize it or not, labels are constructed out of laziness, immaturity and a lack of clear thinking, intellectually and spiritually. Can we see this about ourselves? One can not see what actually, truly is as long as one is artificially labeling. And one can never come upon that which is eternal, that which has no name, if one is always seeking to label according to one's conditioning, programming, indoctrination. This was true in Bronze Age Palestine and it's true today.
  11. Bart Ehrman used to identify as "agnostic atheist." Agnostic is a term I can get behind, but not as a label. I've said here before that I know next to nothing and embracing this not knowing leads to a healthier life experience. Either I know or I don't, and I am open to following to following the evidence, wherever it might lead. Atheist, theist, agnostic... Whatever the label, it tells one little to nothing. I'm not sure these labels are helpful at all when one is trying to find out about another.
  12. The term is loaded and elusive and arbitrary, as the BT video points out. I don't identify as atheist, nor do I identify as theist. I generally like what Sam Harris has to say about atheism.
  13. If something is absent, it's not here, it's not present. God in Christ in you? How can Christ be in you if Christ is absent? Are you absent? Where is the power if it is absent? And what is the word that takes the place of this absent Christ? The Bible? The KJV Bible? The Llamsa Bible? What a disappointing substitute! This is one of many, many examples of victor defecating in his own hand and then throwing that feces in the face of God.
  14. Introducing.... John 10:10a -- victor paul wierwille, Doctor, T7TMOG John 10:10b -- Christ
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