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  1. depends on how you look at it...I'm working on the upswing
  2. T-Bone

    bad advice

    not sure - but some airlines are probably winging it right now waiting for the corona virus bailout from the gub'ment
  3. Doomsday preppers are getting ready for the end of the world. Their strategy is to go to great lengths in preparing for any of life’s uncertainties – not a bad strategy really if kept within reason. I think most smart folks do plan ahead for uncertainties – we get health insurance, life insurance, car insurance, maybe set some money aside for an unforeseen emergency, maybe even have contingency plans (for example parents might arrange ahead of time with a relative to look after their kids if they both were to die). But in all that it’s not focused on the end of the world but rather maintaining some kind of continuity in the world. There’s always been a fascination with End Times stuff. Now it’s probably just me - but it seems like there’s a tendency by some groups to point out all the rotten things in the world almost as if they’re going to help usher in the End Times – their main idea seems to me to be that things usually get worse and worse until some divine intervention. I’m sorry but that seems like a such a fatalistic attitude to me...I believe we're all made in the image of God - - so maybe we all can lend a helping hand with this "intervention thing". I’m all for trying to maintain continuity of life and of our way of life. Ralph Waldo Emerson said “To leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition; to know that even one life has breathed easier because you have lived - that is to have succeeded”. Times of crisis can bring out the best… and yes, sometimes the worst in people. I pray to God that I will have the strength and wisdom to continue to bring out the best in myself and others…to love my neighbor as myself…to help make this world a better place.
  4. Great post, Socks and thanks for the link to that article
  5. I listened to the YouTube – it hit me as a lot of political and conspiratorial rhetoric. As far as putting my two cents in this thread “The 'end' is nigh...or is it ?!” I’ll say this – folks who have a fatalistic attitude toward a situation, often means they are expecting things to turn out badly and see no point in trying to change that outcome. I don’t consider myself in that category. I don’t ever like the idea of giving up – especially if it’s something worth fighting for – and I think if we all follow the good advice coming out of the science and health care communities that will help towards flattening the curve. We will get through this together – even though we’re six feet apart. Existentially speaking – perhaps the way of life as we know it will significantly change...and currently the situation will probably get worse before it gets better – some scientists speculate that even with the curve flattening from everyone’s efforts we could still see a resurgence in the fall… hopefully they’ll come up with a vaccine sooner than much later (I’ve heard a few folks in the news mention the typical span of time for developing a vaccine is in years). I’ve heard someone comment on this new “war” of humans vs covid-19 that it’s like a call for many of us to stay at home – so we don’t overtax the system…that’s something to think about…that’s some paradigm shift. This is not your typical conflict between another nation or group, with military personnel on the front lines of the battlefield. I’m not a medical professional, police officer, firefighter, grocery store / pharmacy / delivery worker, fast food drive-thru or restaurant take-out worker, waste management personnel, a technician who helps keep infrastructure (utilities, internet, etc.) up and running, or the many other essential jobs on “the front lines” who preserve life and our way of life. I’d rather be a part of the solution than part of the problem.
  6. T-Bone

    bad advice

    I saw this revision of a familiar motto on Stephen Colbert - - collaboration in light of physical distancing: United we stand divided we fall
  7. T-Bone

    bad advice

    I saw this on the news a couple of days ago Italian priest accidentally activates video filters while live-streaming mass
  8. == == == == from WordWolf's thread The Way: Living in Wonderland (page-178, since "Nothing cataclysmic...") Watch this next quote from pg-179. pg-180. ...(snip) == == == == Setting aside the preposterous story of wierwille hearing an audible voice from God – I’ll tell you why I think he was a bold faced liar. For someone who claimed that his “ministry” taught people "the accuracy and integrity of God’s Word" – the hypocrisy of his leadership, scholarship (cough cough) and lifestyle speaks volumes contrary to his claim. (definition of hypocrisy : the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.) Let's look at accuracy and integrity: Accuracy: the quality or state of being correct or precise. wierwille re-defined biblical words to his liking and was often inconsistent in using the principles of interpreting the Bible - you know, all that stuff he plagiarized from Bullinger’s book “How to Enjoy the Bible”. To wierwille "make it your own" means copying someone else's work and putting his name on it. Hmmmmm…accuracy…on another thread Is PLAF theopneustos god-breathed? I talked about wierwille’s method of getting back to the authentic…accurate…precise…original word of God which was given when holy men of God spake...It appears wierwille is somewhat removed from analyzing the actual texts that are still in existence; in the PFAL book, page 128 in chapter 11, “The Translations of the Word of God”, wierwille states: “Since we have no originals and the oldest manuscripts that we have date back to the fifth century A.D., how can we get back to the authentic prophecy which was given when holy men of God spoke? To get the Word of God out of any translation or out of any version, we have to compare one word with another and one verse with another verse. We have to study the context of all verses.” wierwille is not comparing Greek manuscripts – instead he is comparing translations or versions of the Bible! That’s like playing the telephone game - the first person states a message and by the time it goes through a whole line of people the message might sound somewhat different from the original. wierwille is at the end of the line - comparing how one translator interprets a phrase in the Greek to how another translator handles the same phrase. Frankly I don’t have much faith in wierwille’s ability to see beyond his own doctrinal preferences to note differences or similarities in translations since he would come up with goofy phrases that blurred variations like “all without exception” and “all without distinction” – which is the same thing. Accuracy my a$$ - what a fvcking bull$hit artist Integrity: the state of being whole and undivided. wierwille cherry-picked from certain passages to prove a point while ignoring other verses that contradicted his own point of view.. He also operated by a double-standard – teaching folks to obey the moral dictates of the Bible while he himself secretly lived out a lascivious lifestyle. That’s a double-whammy against any supposed “integrity” see Matthew 23 hypocrisy . hmmmm...integrity...In retrospect, it's obvious to many of us on Grease Spot that wierwille didn't give a rat's a$$ about personal integrity either. Personal Integrity is being truthful and honest with yourself and others, always striving to make sure your behavior and actions agree with your value system, moral principles, ethics, etc. It generally means staying consistent with personal values and ethical standards, so that when we speak we mean what we say...please...please...PLEASE re-read Skyrider's first post above - especially this part: "The "wheels of the internet" have exposed wierwille's sexual predation as well. From testimonies here at GSC, and supported by two or three witnesses (at least), women have come forward to tell their stories of sexual abuse, drugging and rape. These facts have followed wierwille thru the years from Van Wert back to his ancestral farm, the headquarters of twi. Fortified by an inner circle of cult loyalists, a doctrine whereby devil spirits would always attack the man of god, and young corps girls who had submitted their innermost secrets and personal history in a tell-all paper that wierwille requested from all corps......AND a rumbling-motel-on-wheels (a motor coach guarded by bodyguards) that stopped at these corps campuses....... wierwille's sexual predation was unleashed. Unlike martindale, who was groomed by wierwille to "loosen up his moral and sexual proclivities" ....... wierwille's sexual predation was self-inflicted. Some have suggested that there was sexual abuse in victor's childhood, but that has not been confirmed (as far as I know). Needless to say.......victor paul wierwille has been in the grave for nearly 35 years now and some have, still, not connected the dots on this. Clearly the scriptures give us warnings on every hand about wolves in sheep's clothing, hirelings, whited sepulchers, deceivers, seducers, etc.......time and again. Yet, throughout the pfal class wierwille weaves this tapestry that he is shepherding the flock of God, not a hireling......he, wierwille, is calling out the Pharisees of organized religion and setting people free...... and he is opening up the scriptures from the deceivers in denominational churches. He claims to speak of a message of liberty.......spiritually and sexually. Wierwille heralds the message of Romans 8......that there is no condemnation to them in Christ Jesus and "who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect?" Love God and live as you fool-please. How convenient to cherry-pick "spiritual liberty." " personal integrity my a$$...what a fvcking hypocrite == == == == wierwille's “ministry” was based on lies – here’s just a few: he lied when he plagiarized the works of others and led people to believe it was from his own hard work, he lied about taking Moody Bible Institute correspondence courses (he never did – I have proof here ) I can only assume he lied about that to give followers the idea that he really studied the biblical languages, at times he even made up his own definitions of Greek words to support his point of view (like in his teaching of the word “with” in John 1:1), and at times he even pressured the research department to bend to his preference for interpreting a passage - like in the wording and imagery in Ephesians 6 as indicative of an athlete rather than what it plainly talks about - a soldier (you can read about that in Penworks’ book Undertow . wierwille plagiarized big time – stealing and lying on a grand scale, that some con artists may have never thought possible. Was wierwille concerned about the accuracy and integrity of “The Word”? I don’t think so. Actions speak much louder than words. How wierwille behaved was the real “sermon” blasting through a Marshall Amp cranked up to eleven.
  9. A whistleblower is person who informs on a person or organization engaged in an illicit activity. Since we really don’t have any details of the split or of what Peter W knew or didn’t know at the time – I am very hesitant to lay any “should-have-dones” on him. Back in the early days, having Bullinger’s and Kenyon’s books around the bookstore – it may have given the appearance wierwille had nothing to hide...keep in mind the type of folks in his sphere of influence might not have thought it was even such a big deal like we would think today - it's a matter of perception. And really, how many scholarly or academic-type folks did he attract anyway. vpw might have been " hiding the truth in plain sight" (which is a trick on one's perception) – sort of like saying “why would I have all these other authors' books on display if I was trying to hide that I plagiarized from them?”...vpw tells a story of Doc Higgins (i think) - who handed him a Bullinger book and said "Bullinger writes like you teach" or something like that - again there's the idea of putting vpw in the same league as Bullinger. " yeah, just fitting the pieces together in the build-an accurate-word-of-god-puzzle." ...and for that matter, as Skyrider mentioned that it wasn't until the later edition of RTHST that vpw had omitted the reference to Stiles in the preface - was that an ever fomenting guilty conscience trying to do a better job of covering his plagiarism tracks? I don't know - just thinking out loud here...In thinking about that “hiding in plain sight” trick – something he said in “The Way Living in Love” comes to mind – basically vpw said something like he never taught anything new – he just pieced together what others have taught so that it was accurate. Odd though - he doesn't specifically mention any names. Some die-hard wierwille fans will argue that is vpw giving those he plagiarized from the proper credit....yeah right - shame on you ....probably some of that "all truth is God's truth" mentality was around back then too - which softens plagiarism / the boundaries of intellectual property to "we're all really just teaching from the same book anyway - God's Word" There was no internet back then with websites like Grease Spot, TransChat or Waydale. Could TWI followers or former followers have contacted Peter W in Australia at some point about things going awry? It’s possible. But I haven’t heard of any – maybe others have…I think by the time TWI was in full-throttle cult mode Peter W was long gone and too far away to be concerned about it all.
  10. T-Bone

    bad advice

    Ok – got it …taking the topic on a flip flop…along the lines of a that-was-then-this-is-now-mashup…and please note: the reader is responsible for doing a little math. John 11 Lazarus raised from the dead Then Jesus, again groaning in himself, came to the tomb. It was a cave, and a stone lay against it. Jesus said, “Take away the stone.” Martha, the sister of him who was dead, said to him, “Lord, by this time there is a stench, for he has been dead four days.” Jesus said to her, “Good point, Martha. Hey guys leave the stone in place.” Then speaking toward the tomb in a very loud voice Jesus said “Hey Lazarus old buddy, you’ll need to self-isolate for another ten days. We’ll come back for you then - okay?” Luke 24 He is risen On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. They found the stone was still in place in front of the tomb. While they were wondering how to get in the tomb, suddenly two men in clothes that gleamed like lightning stood on either side of the stone. In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground. The men said to them “Sorry for the holdup Ladies, but you know what a stickler the Lord is for setting a good example – even though it’s totally unnecessary he insists on self-isolating for another eleven days.”
  11. T-Bone

    bad advice

    Yikes ! thanks for sharing that, Waysider. sorry if i misinterpreted your first post...I thought we were going along the lines of giving bad advice (my next bit of bad advice was to "greet each other with a holy kiss").
  12. T-Bone

    bad advice

    and remember to ignore social distancing rule of 6 feet.
  13. welcome to Grease Spot, George and thanks for sharing your story...I look forward to your input - and along the lines of what Waysider said, a good, civil discussion helps broaden everyone's horizon.
  14. Skyrider and Rocky, thanks for your thoughtful replies. Skyrider, I think you have something there - about Peter J Wade’s tribute to Kenyon may very well reveal the sterling quality of Wade’s character…and the fact that he wasn’t indoctrinated by the way corps program was probably of paramount importance in keeping those blinders off his eyes. Rocky, I agree with you on the importance of Grease Spot and passing on our stories… ...when I first started having my doubts and questions about wierwille & TWI, all I had to go on for making inferences was what I found out through my own fledgling research (of the Bible, systematic theology, biblical languages – and using Bible versions and books of my own choosing I might add! Not books endorsed by TWI) I began to see just how academically incompetent, dishonest and manipulative wierwille was…but these were merely little red flags compared to his gross criminal behavior I learned about on Grease Spot - some of what I read resonated with me in light of what he taught in The Christian Family & Sex class and even in just remembering how he behaved around the corps - whether he was teaching or just hanging out. He was a dirty old man who was drunk and smoking like a chimney most of the time. Those were major red flags in my book…when those damn blinders from my way corps indoctrination finally fell off I then understood how the unbridled adulation for wierwille overshadowed many red flags. Because in the shadows – you can’t tell the color of the flag – so you tend to write it off as it’s no big deal – after all “that’s just going by your five senses”…or “don’t be so petty – he is the man of God for our day and time and hour”…”the love of God thinketh no evil."... yes - little thoughts like those were part of the "apparatus " of the blinders - that's one of the purposes of indoctrination - with the blinders on you can only see what's in front of you - which is what wierwille and other TWI leadership directed your attention to. Yeah, you don't want to look at anything else cuz that's worldly stuff and wouldn't be very spiritual, right? Just trust me on this one. no wait - that was a trick question!!!! "we don't need no stinkin' blinders!" ever wonder why horses wear blinders ? Blinders keep the horse focused on the most important task - winning the race by going in the right direction - straight ahead - eliminates distractions...the blinders of indoctrination keep followers focused on the most important tasks - like heaping excessive admiration and praise on wierwille and looking to him or "since he daid" looking to current TWI leadership for direction. another thing about analyzing wierwille and TWI - you'll find more of a target-rich-environment (red flag-wise) if you look more into the policies, procedures, and social dynamics than into any particular doctrine. so - three cheers for all the brave and courageous folks who have shared their stories on Grease Spot - - hip hip hooray times 3!
  15. Great post, Skyrider - it got me thinking about a couple of things: What was / were the reason or reasons for Peter J Wade split? I wonder how many folks took note of the omission of JE Stiles from the 7th edition of RTHST. By “took note” I mean to the point they thought something was amiss.
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