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  1. Hi Grease Spotters ! This is my last post. The Grease Spot Café is extremely helpful for anyone who wants to be free of the harmful and controlling cult, The Way International. And not just to be clear of their physical influence but also unencumbered by their twisted ideology. One must also unravel the insidious nature of their doctrine and practice that becomes embedded in the mind. I was unaware of the intellectual and emotional baggage that had festered – even after I had left the cult - - until I came to The Grease Spot Café. By my own estimate, I think I overstayed my welcome here by about 16 years. I’ve come to realize I have not always kept my wits about me - and often my participation here has brought out the worst in me. For me – and I can’t emphasize this enough – for me - The Grease Spot Café became a rabbit hole. For me it developed into an intricate and convoluted labyrinth of assorted feedback and I let it take up way too much of my time trying to sort through options and possible resolutions. I wish everyone well. Sincerely T-Bone
  2. 145. Alien civilizations could use the “principles” of PFAL against us. On board the Totally Weird Intergalactic Gig: TWIG coordinator Phake Dawctor So Unt So says to his / hers / its pseudo-science officer, Pee Awful Grad Left-Bak, “Pee Awful, progress report on checklist, please.” Pee Awful Grad Left-Bak, who always did everything with a mathematical exactness and scientific precision - licked his / hers / its thin green-card-ish alien lips and acting real otherworldly says, while at the same time and simultaneously genuflecting and saluting with the official gesture of respect and acknowledgment - - making the sign of the cross five times – once in the middle of his / hers /its alien being and then four more times – once on each of his / hers / its four extraterrestrial shoulders, “Most honorable TWIG coordinator Phake Dawctor So Unt So sir / ma’am / object of worship, Phase 1. Find out what is available has been completed! Phase 2. How to retrieve it is in progress – tractor beam has the earth creature almost fifty percent uploaded. I am accessing The Greatest Secret in the Cosmos Today Textbook to see details of Phase 3. What to do with it after you’ve got it.”
  3. Funny you should put it that way, Charity. One time this wonderful ‘revelation’ hit me when a Grease Spotter quoted that Psalm. And that’s all they did – no commentary – no tie-in to some point they were trying to make…they just quoted the entire Psalm…Now, how many times has Psalm 23 been quoted or referred to on Grease Spot Café? Hundreds if not thousands. At the time, I was having one of those cult-survivor spells of feeling overwhelmed with the task of unpacking more of that mental and emotional baggage from my TWI experience and wishing I could have a professional therapist present every time I go through this tedious task. And that’s when Psalm 23:1 hit me like a Saul-on-his-high-horse-bound-for-Damascus-moment. (FYI – I like to go to the movies when I describe my internal issues – I am like Stephen Spielberg in my own right mind ). The Lord is MY shepherd – He is ALAWAYS WITH ME – I lack nothing in terms of needing a qualified therapist – who knows me better than I know myself. Your quip of signing up for that with the green card made me laugh and reminded me of the the Absent Christ? thread , a discussion on how wierwille’s insidious maxim the Word takes the place of the absent Christ had eclipsed…or maybe sabotaged a Christian’s efforts to pursue a genuine and transformative relationship with our living Lord and ever present Savior Jesus Christ.
  4. from PFAL one could ‘reason’ the Bible interprets itself – I wonder if pseudo-science interprets itself.
  5. There are two kinds of people in this world. People who take the PFAL class and there's people who don't.
  6. Great post, Chockfull !!!!!! Gnosticism-like ideas were a distinct element in wierwille’s ideology - it seems rather obvious to me now that anything in the Bible that spoke of a mystery, or verses that could be misinterpreted to teach there was some secret knowledge available only to the fully initiated , afforded wierwille a great springboard to add impetus to promote his delusions, and exercise control over followers. Yeah obvious to me NOW. But from 1974 to 1986 I bought into his delusions- hook, line and sinker.
  7. 144. following the "principles" of PFAL leads to a life of discontentment. wierwille uses this proof-text to give reason for chasing after material abundance: New King James Version The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly… John 10:10 HOWEVER The author of Ecclesiastes said one who pursues abundance will never be satisfied. New King James Version He who loves silver will not be satisfied with silver; Nor he who loves abundance, with increase. This also is vanity…. Ecclesiastes 5:10 Perhaps David in the OT already clarified the abundance Jesus would bring: The LORD is my shepherd, I lack nothing… Psalm 23:1 NIV
  8. You participating in a general discussion of possible answers about anything - is NOT how I would characterize your posts on the God’s Budget thread. It seems to me you are consistently combative and argumentative with any Grease Spotter who challenges your myopic views and confirmation bias. Here is Mike disputing with another poster, Mike claiming wierwille did not usurp the Jesus Movement in early days of Rye NY > Mike's post on God's Budget April 27th 2023, 7:46 PM And on same thread here is Mike's claim there's excellor's sessions in the gospels_God's Budget April 29th 2023, 9:05 PM Which I challenged him to show where in the gospels are the Scripture to support his claim > here , here , here , here and Mike did not provide Scripture to support his claim.
  9. That is why when I am accusing others I do it Magneto style. All fingers pointing outward in the direction of my target – less chance of self-inflicted wounds
  10. Transitive Property my ask! To the best of my recollection, it’s yellin’ in the front and brownin’ in the back for those unaware of underwear orientation
  11. I have it on pretty good authority…well…actually according to the Great Principal (the person with the highest authority and most important position – who is also in charge of the bathroom on the bus ) Drambuie is a spirit , which leeches off the brain cells in you, which is now your problem and your problem becomes Manischewitz on the top shelf as you…uhm... what was the question again?
  12. I beleeeeeve this is one of those dive bars....owner has a tight budget and the double doors are in disrepair.
  13. oh, I don't know...maybe the fact that I can count on you to express your displeasure over my posts that speak to Mike's nonsense.
  14. What makes you think my intent is to get through Mike’s impenetrable confirmation bias? Oh, maybe you’re using the “to whom is it addressed?” nonsense of PFAL/Bullinger. I have my reasons for the way I say things – and I’m not really interested in hearing about your rules and preferences for my voice. If you’re the self-designated thread monitor, I hope you don’t get frustrated or feel insulted that I ignore your silly - - comments. If you are a moderator, please do something official like cite the GSC rules I am violating or ban me, or do something that will appease your ire. I’m easy – I’ll move on – I've got better things to do than argue with someone over my voice. This isn’t the way corps program, and you are not my superior. Perhaps what you imagine is different from what I think.
  15. Hi Mike – perhaps someday you’ll understand how one’s perception of wierwille was shaped by how much of a composite image is formed from seeing his different sides. It is not just his public persona but how he behaved in unguarded moments and further if one has had the unfortunate experience of being sexually molested by him. I’ve learned in life we are initially known by our words, but over time our deeds either support our words - or they nullify our words and sabotage our efforts to influence others. Identifying folks by their deeds takes some practice Matthew 7:16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? (biblehub.com). Of course, Matthew 7:16 is in reference to spotting false prophets – but getting a general idea of whether someone is good or bad is a practical principle one can abstract from that verse as well. Just wanted to explain this to you over the times you go on and on how we’re all sinners - and I agree! but you also talk about folks on Grease Spot being too harsh on wierwille- maybe without realizing there's a whole other side - a darker side of wierwille that you were not aware of. I think you use absolute thinking – or black and white thinking. That myopic view does not take into account the biblical data that suggests some sins are worse than others and the consequences of some sins are more destructive than others. That being said – since you have not been through the corps program you have never witnessed wierwille in unguarded moments – instances of wierwille doing and saying stuff that would indicate bad judgement on his part – stuff that, to the uninitiated would surely offend , horrify, or even shock them that the teacher of PFAL would behave this way . For example, the pajama party with wierwille at Rome City showing a porn video to the corps under the pretext of preparing us to counsel anyone even those who work in the porn industry or are into watching porn... ...Or the time he was in the Rome City Coachman Suite, sexually molesting Kristen – as mentioned in her book… These incidents present a different side of him that you have not witnessed or experienced. You can read about the horrifying stories of wierwille’s depraved behavior – but if you’ve never been there to experience them – it can seem like exaggerated or fabricated stories – because it doesn’t agree with how you’ve experienced the nice, warm and fuzzy prim and proper wierwille. I don’t expect you to flat out believe the accounts of wierwille’s depravity shared on Grease Spot. But I wish you would have some respect for what former corps have shared here – realizing that they may have a more complete picture of the real wierwille even though it disagrees with your romanticized and sanitized version that was presented to the general TWI public. But that doesn’t let you off the hook. I know you know in your heart there’s some dark and ominous underpinnings to wierwille’s ministry. But love and admiration can blind someone to another’s faults. People usually find what they’re looking for. I know you’ve been around TWI from a long time ago. Surely in all that time – I can’t imagine you’ve never met a woman who had been sexually molested by wierwille and may have tried to relate to you something so horrible that happened to her - but she couldn't find the words or courage to make herself vulnerable ...people would attack her for starting rumors or attacking wierwille's ministry...wierwille would say stuff to cause people to doubt any negative words about him ---for instance I know you've heard him say about those who have criticized him or complain about some horrible thing he did , that's how the adversary always works to cause division - - they did it to Jesus, did it to Paul...or maybe you heard about that happening to someone you knew. You should dust off those old memories and ignored red flags. Seek and you will find.
  16. If you ask me - it looks like wierwille has gone to his happy place - looking at his porn video catalog collection in one hand (hmmm symbolic?) and with a dirty old man grin on face raising his mug of Drambuie in toast to the dirty deities of depravity. mug of Drambuie sold separately - call now - operators of all 9 demons all the time are being held in abeyance waiting on your order…or rather your submission
  17. Affording me an excellent opportunity to enlighten folks who have just turned on the TV midstream of another exciting episode of absurdities and rebuffs, so thanks Rocky! That’s why I’ll continue doing what I’ve been doing. Just like I do with analyzing wierwille – and Rocky please take note so I don’t have to haggle with you – yet again - over my critical examination differing from yours or not meeting your approval or standards. I am surprised the close parallels of wierwille’s, and Mike’s deceptive tactics AND dubious ideas are not obvious to you – especially in light of Mike’s recent challenge over my Moody letter. I’ve found the two (deceptive tactics and dubious ideas) often go hand in hand to pull off the con. Why do I call out Mike lambasting the corps and corps program? Why do I show the jury a letter from Moody registrar’s office? Do you think showing the jury that the accused is NOT an expert witness ( one who has special knowledge, expertise, experience, proficiency in a particular field that is relevant to the case) might dissuade them to give any credence to the fantastic claims and dubious ideas the accused has made? Once again, I thank you for giving me this opportunity - and so I award your post with one upvote
  18. I don’t understand why you consider yourself an authority on something you’ve never participated in. You criticize that which you know not. I probably sat through more PFAL than you could shake a Vic at. One thing I did not forget is that you don’t like to admit you’re ever wrong. Besides being a slowpoke reading Undertow ( even my cat reads faster than you - - and he likes to dog-ear the pages) how much have you read on your bad boy wierwille abusing and exploiting the way corps - men and women - both sexual and mental cruelty? do you know why your perspective sucks? you stand atop wierwille’s high pedestal and look down on all the cult-survivors who no longer worship your master. Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, cult-leaders, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. twice as helluva creep that wierwille was
  19. Well as usual I ignored your misdirect. I did a better search to prove my point! I did a search of your comments containing the word “corps” just on this thread , and stopped at 4 since there were a bunch more on this very thread - of you talking $hit about stuff you know nothing about (which has never stopped you before) to shift the blame off of your precious lord and savior wierwille. For yeah verily he is the prince of pieces of $hit that you call pearls. Let him that rightly-divideth understand. Mike will never deny his lord and savior wierwille the gore due to his bloody butchering of The Bible. It’s wierwille in you the hope of gory. Mike projecting his own Nazi fears onto corps 5/5/2023 8:35 PM Mike's uninformed observations of corps 11/30/2022 11:20 AM Mike mentions corps Nazi element_Mike never been corps - geesh- what a pontificating idiot 11/16/2022 10:58 AM Mike on corps Nazi rampage again - what a stupid ba$tard - 11/13/2022 12:31 PM I guess I do owe you an apology Mike – I am sorry I underestimated your stupidity.
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