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  1. Mark Sanguinetti

    Idiom of Permission

    Here is a link to an article that also looks insightful. Or at least should be considered for its content. The person makes a reference to E.W Bullinger, the English biblical article writer that wrote a book on biblical figures of speech. And yes, we today also use what could be considered figures of speech in our wording and speaking. As an example, "it is raining cats and dogs", is not literal, but simply means it is raining hard. https://overcomersharvest.wordpress.com/tag/idiom-of-permission-in-the-bible/ An article written by James K Sebastian. Someone who I do not know.
  2. Mark Sanguinetti

    Idiom of Permission

    "Why would satan destroy all the wickedness that he was promoting?" In also answering Wordwolf's question, which was perhaps originated on this forum by Bill Rotach, below is a biblical verse to at least consider. Other verses are referred to for references in my comments that follow. The below has improvement after editing the original written content seen above. With darkness there are no burning flames of fire used for torture. Instead the chains of darkness symbolize a restriction on the sinful angels ability to see in order to deceive. Also the darkness the demons will experience in the future can also result in the demons being blinded so that they torture each other. This to me looks like their punishment. As an example this method of victory was used by God in an Israel war with the Midianites as seen in the book of Judges, chapter 7. Soldiers from Israel without the use of needed weapons defeated 15,000 Midianite soldiers. In Judges 7:22, 3000 Israelites simply blew trumpets and then the Lord God caused the Midianite soldiers to turn on each other with their weapons. Then only 300 soldiers were needed to finalize the defeat of the Midianites. Using blindness in a more positive way is seen with Jesus Christ himself blinding someone named Saul who later became the Apostle Paul. This is read in Acts chapter 9. Saul was part of the persecution of the followers of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ spoke to him as read in Acts 9:4-6. Before this a light flashed around him and he fell to the ground. Then Jesus spoke to him about Saul persecuting Him through the persecution of his followers. Then Saul was blinded. A few days later a follower of Jesus Christ came to him as directed by Jesus Christ and healed him of his temporary blindness. Saul then believed in Jesus Christ, received the gift of holy spirit and later came to be also called Paul. Paul later became a very knowledgeable Apostle Paul. Another example of this is seen in Acts chapter 13. Followers of Jesus Christ including Saul who as a Roman citizen was also named Paul were spreading the knowledge of Jesus Christ. They met a person described as a Jewish sorcerer and false prophet. A sorcerer is a pretender of magic powers. This deceiving person tried to turn people away from faith in Jesus Christ. Paul noticed this and opposed this person who had a satanical greedy wanting religious power and authority mindset. This greedy not service oriented person was then blinded for a season as recorded in Acts 13:11. As a result they had more followers of Jesus Christ as a result of more teachings about Jesus Christ with less deception coming from the greedy power hungry religious political elite at least for a period of time.
  3. Mark Sanguinetti

    Idiom of Permission

    "Why would satan destroy all the wickedness that he was promoting?" In also answering Wordwolf's question, here is a biblical verse to at least consider. A definition of the above Greek word tartaroo, in the KJV was translated as hell is the following. In the future when the demons get blinded while being reserved for judgement. As long as they have the mindset of evil mixed with deception, since they will be blinded and not being able to see who they will be evil to. Then the demons could do this to each other. An example of this is seen with Jesus Christ himself blinding someone named Saul who later became the Apostle Paul. This is read in Acts chapter 9. Saul was part of the persecution of the followers of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ spoke to him as read in Acts 9:4-6. Before this a light flashed around him.and he fell to the ground. Then Jesus spoke to him about Saul persecuting Him through the persecution of his followers. Then Saul was blinded. A few days later a follower of Jesus Christ came to him as directed by Jesus Christ and healed him of his temporary blindness. Saul then believed in Jesus Christ, received the gift of holy spirit and was renamed Paul. Paul later became a very knowledgeable Apostle Paul. Another example of this is seen in Acts chapter 13. Followers of Jesus Christ including Saul who was also named Paul were spreading a knowledge of Jesus Christ. They met a person described as a Jewish sorcerer and false prophet. A sorcerer is a pretender of magic powers. This deceiving person tried to turn people away from faith in Jesus Christ. Paul noticed this and opposed this person who had a satanical greedy wanting religious power and authority mindset. This greedy not service oriented person was then blinded for a season as recorded in Acts 13:11. As a result they had more followers of Jesus Christ as a result of more teachings about Jesus Christ with less deception coming from the greedy power hungry religious political elite at least for a period of time.
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    The Myth of Hell

    Good common sense humblebee. Regarding purgatory, at least in spelling it relates to the biblical Greek word for fire, which is "puros". Regarding, "know anything for certain". The Apostle Paul, in 1 Corinthians chapter 13, teaches, "that we know only in part". There is no reason to be arrogant and think we know everything now. It is only when we see Jesus Christ face to face that we will see and know spiritual things fully or completely. However, we can all learn and improve in our knowledge. 1 Corinthians chapter 13.
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    Are we athletes of the spirit OR soldiers for Christ ?

    Hi Allan: In using my biblical study software. the Greek word translated as "whole armour" from Wordwolf's quoted Ephesians 6, only has three usages in the entire New Testament. The three usages are Ephesians 6:11 , 6:13 and Luke 11:22. This is Strong's #3833. Here is a definition from Thayer's Greek Lexicon. The usage of this Greek word looks figurative and symbolic and not literal. As an example, I don't think Paul actually wore military clothing. But then perhaps he should have while at least trying to be peaceful with the hateful people. Regarding the usage of the word "soldiers" from the New Testament , the Greek word for this is used 26 times in the New Testament. Half of these usages are in the book of Acts. In looking at the usages of this word, it is mostly used as a literal soldier, especially in the book of Acts. However, it can also be used figuratively or symbolically.
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    The Myth of Hell

    As the bible relates to the words eternal and everlasting. This Greek word is often translated as age or in the New Testament Greek using English letters, aion. Here is an article on this subject written by someone named Mark Sanguinetti. I wonder who that is? Thank you Allan. http://christian-universalism.info/agegreekwords-pg1.html
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    The Myth of Hell

    I did not know about fire ants. Interesting, but obviously negative insects. Perhaps I should change my figurative language of demonic spirits to spiritual fire p i s s ants. Perhaps instead of p i s s i n g urine. They p i s s symbolic poisonous fire. However, I have read from the bible that when they are put in prison in the future, they will be darkened and blinded so that they can not see to deceive others. When darkened and blinded the only beings that they will be able to torture and p i s s on are each other. Below is a link to information on the sometimes restriction on the fallen angles or demonic spirits as read.at the top of page 6. This restriction of being darkened and blinded will be part of their future judgement. http://christian-universalism.info/myth-of-hell-pg6.html
  8. Mark Sanguinetti

    The Myth of Hell

    Sounds like they had a bad dream. However, my dreams when I sleep at night are better. Yes, people sometimes experience torment in life through a bad injury or an illness. Sorry, but I am not a fan of mystic pagan gods. Instead I call them spiritual p i s s ants. Yes, sometimes people get thoughts from spiritual p i s s ants. Figurative language for demonic spirits. I am sorry ants for comparing you to demonic spirits.
  9. Mark Sanguinetti

    The Myth of Hell

    I hope that you are at least willing to read one word here. The word "Doctrinal" and this is the area of this forum.. And yes, Doctrinal does include a study of the bible, which you are not interested in.
  10. Mark Sanguinetti

    The Myth of Hell

    I looked up the word parable, since I rarely use this word. This means a simple story used to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson, as told by Jesus in the Gospels. Calling this a parable is fine. Certainly much of the biblical teachings are figurative or symbolic and are not literal. Certainly there is an increase of knowledge showing what is available with Jesus Christ and his best teacher, the Apostle Paul. Regarding the new spiritual body patterned after the Lord's resurrected body. It looks to me like we will be able to fly. Perhaps even better than a bird. Perhaps even as good as an airplane. Maybe I am now combining a parable with a fable. I think being able to fly even better than a bird would be very good.
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    The Myth of Hell

    Certainly, Paul was the best teacher on this subject. However, there are many usages of the word heaven for both the Old and New Testaments from the NIV. I do not have time to read them now. Regarding life in heaven, I think your statement is valid and should at least be considered. One of the gospel chapters that has the word heaven in it is John 6. This is one of the chapters that could be read and analyzed. After reading these verses I did notice that it says that Jesus came down from heaven. In verse "40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” It does not mention going to heaven, but it at least says raise them up.
  12. Mark Sanguinetti

    The Myth of Hell

    Yes, personal attacks are bad. However, one of the main reasons why Grease Spot Cafe has had less posters today than in previous years. Asking questions with no goal to learn. Why should a person answer a question when the person asking it will not even consider the answer explained to them? It is the practical equivalent of talking to a brick wall.
  13. Mark Sanguinetti

    The Myth of Hell

    Rocky, again you have many questions that you have asked me in this doctrinal forum. I have answered at least some of them, yet you have ignored the answers to your questions. Since you have highlighted the above text that I posted. I am going to ask you the following question. Do you read the bible now? Obviously, if you have actual biblical questions this would involve reading the bible. And the asking of questions on any subject should involve the desire to learn from others.
  14. Mark Sanguinetti

    The Myth of Hell

    I was simply asking questions. It was NOT declaring they were unwelcome. Yes, people ask questions here. I have also asked questions. Rocky and cman have combined to ask me many questions. In this doctrinal forum, I simply want people to consider the bible and make sure that they are at least reading it. Some people in this doctrinal forum read scriptures much. With work in reading it can help our understanding. Others look to me like that they do not read the bible much anymore.
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    The Myth of Hell

    TLC, your observations should at least be considered. They seem valid to me and show good biblical and spiritual sense. Certainly, more was known with Jesus Christ coming to earth with his teachings and insight. Also with the gift of holy spirit from Jesus Christ, this would mean more spiritual knowledge and insight. As an example of what you just stated. The nation of Israel when Jesus Christ came to them. As I understand it, people were looking for Jesus to be a King that would work to overthrow the Roman empire and put the nation of Israel as independent with power. Since he did not do that or work on that at all, they rejected him. The goal of Jesus was instead spiritual with the salvation of mankind and this was not seen by the nation of Israel, especially their political and religious leaders. Of course, they wanted the power and saw Jesus as a threat to their authority. Also perhaps only one Old Testament verse addresses afterlife for mankind. This is scene in Daniel 12:2. Here is the quote from the Young's Literal Version.
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