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  1. Even Israelite people in Old Testament times should see that murdering someone, which is also against one of the ten commandments, should be a higher crime than working on your farm to get food for your family on Saturday or Sunday, whichever is considered the Sabbath day. And Jesus Christ did some work to help hungry people on a Sabbath day as read in Matthew chapter 12. In the next verses the Pharisees even complain about healing someone on a Sabbath day, which for them was work and not godly faith. The Pharisees wanted to commit the crime, which we also have today, of murder for even healing someone to help that person. I hope that Waxit at least sees murder as a higher godly crime than not going to his church or another church on Saturday.
  2. Does Waxit consider Sunday as the first day of the week? Again in looking at the calendar it could be the first day of the week or the seventh day of the week? Why is this important to Waxit? Regarding your doctrinal beliefs, which is more important to you? The writings of the Old Testament or the New Testament? Jesus Christ did not appear until the period of time with the New Testament and we now have the gift of Holy Spirit to help our spiritual understanding? Do you see that the importance of the Sabbath day of rest was primarily seen in the writings of the Old Testament? For example, the apostle to the gentiles named Paul, only mentions the Greek word for “Sabbath” two times in his writings. One of which is Colossians 2:16-17. 16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. NIV The only other usage from Paul, the apostle for the Gentiles in the New Testament for the Greek word for Sabbath is translated as “of the week” 1 Corinthians 16:1-3 16 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. 2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem. KJV The usage of the word Sabbath in the New Testament was primarily addressed to the Hebrew people who believed that this was a special day for people to gather together in public worship. The scribes and Pharisees sometimes even criticized Jesus Christ for not observing this day even though Jesus also observed this day. But Jesus condemned the pharisaical attitude that missed the deep spiritual truth behind Sabbath observance (Matthew 12:14; Mark 2:23; Luke 6:1-11; John 5:1-18). Mark 2:23-3:6 23 One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and as his disciples walked along, they began to pick some heads of grain. 24 The Pharisees said to him, "Look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?" 25 He answered, "Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need? 26 In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions." 27 Then he said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28 So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath." 3 Another time he went into the synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there. 2 Some of them were looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, so they watched him closely to see if he would heal him on the Sabbath. 3 Jesus said to the man with the shriveled hand, "Stand up in front of everyone." 4 Then Jesus asked them, "Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?" But they remained silent. 5 He looked around at them in anger and, deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts, said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored. 6 Then the Pharisees went out and began to plot with the Herodians how they might kill Jesus. NIV
  3. What is considered the first day of the week? Is it Monday or Sunday? As far as actual work in the United States and globally, Monday is considered the first day of the week regarding work. And then Sunday is the main day off with regard to work with our seven day weeks that are part of our calendars. Although grocery stores are still open even on Sunday so that people can go there to buy food to eat. Regarding comments, I think Twinky has made some good points here. And because of what we have today spiritually through Jesus Christ, making Sunday or Saturday a special spiritual day is insignificant to me. Through Jesus Christ, and God's gift of the Holy Spirit, every day can be spiritual to us. The question to me is are we getting enough sleep at night? We need sleep at least once a day to energize our lives because of our mortal in flesh human bodies. In the future when we get our Christ like spiritual bodies we may not need sleep then.
  4. Jesus and the apostles knew they had to keep this hidden, at least partially. The reason was so much persecution by the religious elite with the scribes and pharisees who mixed religion with politics in order to try to gain more power, instead of being service oriented to humanity. Jesus Christ was service oriented to humanity instead of wanting political power at the time of his earthly life.
  5. I simply like to laugh. I am okay, but perhaps not OkieDokie and especially not OkieDokie Artichoke.
  6. Actually the main person that I give a subtle attack on or make fun of is someone named Mark Sanguinetti. I also call him Marky Spaghetti. Perhaps I should apologize to Bell and Mark Sanguinetti who I often call Marky Spaghetti I wonder who that is?
  7. It looks like Jesus Christ in this teaching is addressing Hateful Hypocrites. I hope that we do not have any on this forum.
  8. Well I also posted this in the other thread. You can simply ignore this here. Or if you want me to delete it here then I can. However, the question is does Bell see this also? However, the book of Revelation is very symbolic, not literal and is more difficult to understand than other books of the bible. Perhaps this book is to difficult for Bell to understand. However, I have to give Bell credit. It sounds or reads like Bell has a very good Bell of love to play and strike for music and sounds.
  9. Next we have more symbolic language of those who wash their robes. This shows that those who change from bad to good through Jesus Christ will be able to go through the gates into the city. However, outside of what he thought as the New Jerusalem John still saw those who were bad with him comparing them to dogs. Dogs are seen favorably today, but during the first century before dogs were trained to be good, dogs were symbolically seen as bad. However, just like dogs have been trained today to be good in nations like the United States. In the future under Jesus Christ more and more of humanity will be retrained to be good and followers of Christ. Then and only then they will be able to enter in through the gates into the city, that represents the savior Jesus Christ. Revelation 22:14-15 14 "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. NIV Revelation 22:14-15 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. KJV
  10. Some of my new article for the book which I will write completely and then publish with help from a publisher. Next we have more symbolic language of those who wash their robes. This shows that those who change from bad to good through Jesus Christ will be able to go through the gates into the city. However, outside of what he thought as the New Jerusalem John still saw those who were bad with him comparing them to dogs. Dogs are seen favorably today, but during the first century before dogs were trained to be good, dogs were symbolically seen as bad. However, just like dogs have been trained today to be good in nations like the United States. In the future under Jesus Christ more and more of humanity will be retrained to be good and followers of Christ. Then and only then they will be able to enter in through the gates into the city, that represents the savior Jesus Christ. Revelation 22:14-15 14 "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. NIV Revelation 22:14-15 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. KJV
  11. 1 Corinthians 13:12 12 Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror;.. NIV Our doctrinal and spiritual views are sometimes only a reflection of our mindset. This is the equivalent of looking in a mirror and basing our doctrinal views on what we see or a reflection of our mindset. For example, if we have hatred for others, then we could see God also as at least sometimes hateful. This is especially seen with some people believing in eternal torment for those who did not believe and follow Jesus Christ in their earthly lives. This is sometimes believed with the figurative and not literal “lake of fire” which according to the end of the book of Revelation some people or the dead will get placed inside of after the second resurrection.
  12. Feel free to keep covering your eyes after asking a question and getting an answer from actual quoted scriptures.
  13. The word universal is sometimes seen as a negative word. However, the biblical words fire, reconciliation and judgement do not need to be negative. John the writer of the book of Revelation saw judged and judgment for humanity, but he did not see the final outcome. He instead used figurative symbols in this book of Revelation, for example 12 gates, with Christ like followers on the inside. The Lamb’s book of life represents Jesus Christ and those who follow him. Only good or pure will enter into this. Next we have verses which show the free will of humanity. The choice being given to humanity of doing good or not doing good. In a favorable way, I see this as the followers of Jesus Christ being fully persuaded in heart to follow Jesus Christ. This is through the gift of Holy Spirit and the new spiritual body patterned after the Lord’s resurrected body that his followers will receive when he returns from heaven. Or as 1 Corinthians 15: 49 says, “so shall we bear the likeness of the man from heaven”, who is Jesus Christ. For an explanation of this see 1 Corinthians chapter 15. Next we have more symbolic language of those who wash their robes. This shows that those who change from bad to good through Jesus Christ will be able to go through the gates into the city. However, outside of what he thought as the New Jerusalem John still saw those who were bad with him comparing them to dogs. Dogs are seen favorably today, but during the first century before dogs were trained to be good, dogs were symbolically seen as bad. However, just like dogs have been trained today to be good in nations like the United States. In the future under Jesus Christ more and more of humanity will be retrained to be good and followers of Christ. What John saw was the free will ability to do good or not do good. However, Paul who made a very large change from being hateful while being one of the main persecutors of the followers of Jesus Christ to being the main and #1 teacher of the New Testament saw more than John. He saw the change that Jesus Christ could make with all of sinful mankind. Here are some of the scriptures that Paul wrote showing all of humanity under Jesus Christ.
  14. This is how I read your posts when you started this thread with a number of posts. And regarding the Philosophical Positions which we have today and which Wordwolf wrote about. What I see as the most hateful and not loving is eternal torment for a lifetime of so called sin. Since one of the primary teachings in the bible is that God the creator is a God of love. Would God raise someone from the dead to only torture them? For example, a child that dies from cancer or a family car accident before the age of five and was never even introduced to Jesus Christ. From a Christian philosophical perspective should that child be raised from the dead only to torture the child? At least I see that philosophy as crazy and hateful. Fortunately I do not see any crazy and hateful people on this thread. Fortunately,, my view of Christianity is a God of love and this is especially seen with his Son Jesus Christ who gave his life for humanity.
  15. Certainly this is the most difficult and challenging subject in the bible in large part because with the book of Revelation using symbols to show the future ages, it was written with symbolic and not literal text. This has caused differences of opinion and sometimes even divisions within the body of Christ as WordWolf has pointed out. All followers of Jesus Christ however, should at least see that Jesus Christ is the first to be risen from the dead to live eternally and that we all need Jesus Christ to be raised from the dead in the future. Either that or they believe in another god similar to ancient Greek and Roman mythology. In contrast to the symbolic and not literal writings of the book of Revelation. Paul's writings are much clearer in content.
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