Mark Sanguinetti

Regarding accusations, cman looks like the only accusations genius on this forum. For example, when he typed "I guess you boys are the beginning and end of all knowledge and wisdom. You know, there might be more than you think." It looks like he does not know or wants to ignore that there is more than he thinks also. If I had a question asked to me like I asked to cman. I would have answered it by even quoting from the bible the following verses. This judgement could be considered a supreme court. God and his Son Jesus Christ are the only geniuses for this type of judgement before the new heaven and new earth as read in Revelation chapters 21 and 22.

I wonder with regard to bad people who committed crimes such as murder with the thievery of money and other bad crimes with out being arrested and charged for their crimes. Right after their death, perhaps for 1 second, does cman think they are resurrected to go to heaven with eternal life? Or go to so called hell with eternal torment? Or something else?

If these followers of Christ, called Saints, were literally dead that were in graves, why did a number of Saints die in only a few years or the length of the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ?? Since this miracle was only written by a follower of Christ, who previously was perhaps a tax collector (Matthew 9:9-11) while working with the Romans. I wonder did only tax collectors have enough faith to see the power of the resurrection????? Using sarcasm!

Does cman also think that people who persecuted followers of Christ, for example religious 1st century Pharisees are also in heaven now??? In addition, people who committed crimes of theft and murder so that they could make much money. Does cman think they are in heaven now or in hell with punishment?? Honestly, I do not think either one. Instead I believe, like many people here, that they are in the grave or dead, awaiting a future resurrection of judgment as read in Revelation 20:11-15.

With regard to the definitions of Koine Greek words for the New Testament. I use references to the actual definitions of Koine Greek words often in my biblical book. especially in two chapters named: Chapter 6: Page 65 Age and the Greek Words That Begin with Aioon Chapter 14: Page 171 The Mythology of Hell That Contradicts Scriptures The basics of this chapter is that the word hell should be translated "the grave or the place of the dead", instead of hell which involves torment with pain, especially eternally. This belief began with Egyptian, Greek and Roman gods. Yes, other books should also be considered, if they are quoted from in the bible. Yes, bible text could be altered, especially if they contradict other scriptures. Regarding Matthew 27:52-53 "and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many." (NKJV). This would obviously be a miracle. Why was this miracle only mentioned in two verses and not the other gospels and other New Testament scriptures?

Thank you very much for helping me laugh. With regard to the subject of Matthew 27:52-53. Instead of calling someone that this is the author of a biblical teaching book "not very smart" or "an idiot". I recommend that we address this subject, instead of criticizing a follower of Jesus Christ. Using my biblical study software program, here is a commentary on these two verses with legitimate copy right information at the end of this quote. Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, [And the graves were opened] By the earthquake; and many bodies of saints which slept, i.e. were dead, sleep being a common expression for death in the Scriptures. Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. [And came out of the graves after his resurrection] Not BEFORE, as some have thought, for Christ was himself the FIRST FRUITS of them who slept, 1 Corinthians 15:20. The graves were opened at his death, by the earthquake, and the bodies came out at his resurrection. [And appeared unto many.] Thus establishing the truth of our Lord's resurrection in particular, and of the resurrection of the body in general, by many witnesses. Quesnel's reflections on these passages may be very useful: 1. The veil being rent shows that his death is to put an end to the figurative worship, and to establish the true religion. 2. The earthquake, that this dispensation of the Gospel is to make known through the earth the judgments of God against sin and sinners. (from Adam Clarke's Commentary, Electronic Database. Copyright © 1996, 2003, 2005, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

WOW, it reads like you are promoting death, perhaps even as a cheer leader for death. Sorry, but I am not a cheer leader for death or the grave.

That shows that people that call themselves Christian perhaps do not really need Jesus Christ to have eternal life. Simply implying that Jesus Christ was NOT the first of humanity to be raised from the dead to live eternally, shows an errant and deceptive mindset.

Here is a web site link which is a commentary regarding controversial scriptures from Matthew 27:52-53. Every follower of Jesus Christ should see and understand that Jesus Christ was the first human to be raised from the dead to live eternally. https://www.revisedenglishversion.com/Matthew/chapter27/53

Thank you very much for calling old or older men, boys. Regarding learning from other people. Should we learn from people who believe that the word "hell", as sometimes read in the bible, is eternal torment for most of humanity after we breath our last physical breath? Perhaps only if we view biblical words like this. I am sorry for typing my views to you, but I do not think "hell" is eternal torment. I instead think the word "hell" represents the grave or the place of the dead. Yes, I learn from other people. For example, the Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary with regard to subjects of the bible. I also have learned the definitions of the Greek words that the New Testament was originally written from, from the Thayer's Greek Lexicon and the Vine's Expository Dictionary. I also learn on other subjects by watching YouTube videos. For example, I primarily learned how to use the Adobe InDesign software program to layout my biblical teaching book and get it ready for printing by watching YouTube videos with one specific video that covered book layout with the most detail.

I wonder if we had an earthquake or a firestorm, would we believe we had a new heaven and a new earth? Especially a new earth. Perhaps only if we wanted to do this to our physical heads. I wonder should we adapt this perspective of knowing when humanity will have a new heaven and a new earth? Honestly, I do not think we now have a new heaven and a new earth and I do NOT know when humanity will have a new heaven and a new earth. Is it OK to think this way or should I apologize for my perspective and thoughts? Have a good day and night.

Good editing by Mike. Yes, I often edit what I type. Similar to the editing by Mike. Only a few words typed by me (Mark) now.

Obviously, at least to people like me or Mark and other people. We are not in the new heaven and earth as read in Revelation chapter 21. In the new heaven and earth, people will not experience pain and sorrow, like people sometimes have in this age or period of time. Revelation chapter 21 follows the judgement at the end of chapter 20, which you quoted from. When I typed "I do not think we have already had this with me sometimes experiencing pain with my physical body". I was referring to humanity is not in the new heaven and earth, where there will be no pain and sorrow like humanity sometimes has in the age or period of time. Have a good day in believing what ever you want to believe.

At least cman does NOT believe in eternal torment with me agreeing with him on this. It looks like cman quoted from the New International Version Revelation 20:11-15. The next verses in the book of Revelation show a new heaven and a new earth from chapter 21:1-4. 21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[a] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” (New International Version) I do not think we have already had this with me sometimes experiencing pain with my physical body.

Because I read from the bible and have a brain and even know where my brain is. I believe my brain is inside my head, while even knowing where my head is. With help of 2 hands connected to 2 arms. In doing a Google search, this website says the majority of U.S. adults say they believe in heaven and hell. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/11/23/views-on-the-afterlife/ Hell among Christians is often believed to be eternal punishment or torment. I instead see from reading the bible with the help of a very good biblical study software program that the word hell should be translated the grave or the place of the dead. I do not think that followers of Jesus Christ should believe that people who did not believe in Jesus Christ with death will go immediately to hell with eternal torment. Instead I believe in a future resurrection of judgement as written in Revelation 20:11-15.