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    I can see the practicality of Alan Watts' quote about facing the fear of the unknown. In one way, it reminds me of being in a relationship with God. Christians are challenged by God to face our fears. He wants to push our self-made boundaries, leap out of our personal comfort zones and accept what life puts before us. When we as His much-loved children accept these challenges and are sincerely curious in seeing how He wants to work in us to overcome them, this curiosity will open us up to an infinite stream of His possibilities (Phil 2:13, Eph 3:20).
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    Hi Rocky, yes to your first question and unlikely to your second, but it is an interesting question. I can think of only one exception and that would be if God leads me to read it for some purpose of His. Not trying to be sanctimonious - just my personal reason concerning myself.
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    "I think it's good to read a book before we criticize or discard it." I think this is true some of the times but not always. The description written on the back of The End of Biblical Studies is a summary of the main ideas which are further explained and established by the author within its pages. A criterion for deciding whether to read a book or not is often based on how strongly we agree or disagree with the summary given about its topic. After leaving twi, I did try to stay connected with God through online sources such as Kenneth Copeland at first and then a couple of the offshoots of twi. I even tried going to a church. I ended with giving up on wanting God in my life for decades although I still thought of Him now and then. Last November was one of those times and when I started reading the Absent Christ thread here on GSC, I began to understand how twi’s doctrines really screwed up Christianity for me. While I do not understand everything the scriptures say, from what I’ve learned since last year about walking with Christ and trusting God, I can say I totally disagree with Hector Avalos’ views in his book.
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    Thank you WW! I've been enlightened (reminded of) that there are athletic activities other than the ones I see constantly being watched on TV in my home like baseball, hockey, golf, soccer, tennis and football (apparently there's not much interest in basketball) . I also have forgotten about the "teaching" blabbering LCM did in AOS. My unpleasant reaction to seeing Staying Alive's dance put me in a pretty pessimistic mood about all things AOS. Thanks also for bringing scripture into your reply - always love to see that .
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    You have unraveled a great mystery for me - I never understood why people would say AOS was a rip-off of Staying Alive. I kept thinking I saw the movie and there wasn't anything like the "seed dance" in it. Now I realize that I was actually thinking of the movie Saturday Night Fever where Stayin' Alive was the opening song. I never knew about this movie which surprises me because I love to watch dance movies (Footloose/Kevin Bacon, Dirty Dancing/Patrick Swayze, Flashdance/Jennifer Beals [with the help of body and dance doubles] dancing to What a Feeling). So when I saw this scene above from the movie Staying Alive, it all made sense except after 30 seconds, I couldn't stand to watch any more - it so reminded me of AOS plus I just could not understand why such a similar dance, setting and costumes would be in a major motion picture. My momentary confusion was because of having seen the AOS video first and so often that it felt like the movie was copying it (instead of the other way round) which was a real freaky feeling. Since then I've watched a bit more but I haven't decided whether to watch the whole movie to see what the storyline for the Satan's Alley dance was. Anyway, still trying to figure out which athletic sports have any of the moves shown in AOS - if you know of any, please enlighten me.
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    T-Bone, As I read back through different threads, I find so many posts of yours that have taught spiritual truths about a myriad of topics that I have found to be very helpful. Your sharing about the Socratic method was new to me in context of an open forum and your humour was always the cherry on top to finish things off. All God's best to you and your family in everything the comes your way. Peace, Charity
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    I had not heard this before and I find it very interesting as someone who's had to deal with strong emotions a lot in my life. Thinking about it now, emotions seem to well up suddenly and are harder if not impossible to manage. So where does that leave "feelings" - definitely want to learn more about this" Thank you for sharing about it!
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    Charity replied to pawtucket's topic in Open

    I add my thanks as well to everyone mentioned above. GSC posters showed me the damaging lie of twi's "absent Christ" doctrine and the enlightening truth of having a present and personal Christ with me 24/7. There's a lot of other great stuff, but this is the biggest and bestest ( ) ever.
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    Thank you Chockfull for bringing up "inherit the wind" (which I just found out is from Prov 11:29) and Oldiesman for the clip from the movie. I looked it up as well and learned the main theme of Inherit the Wind is freedom of speech. In the play, freedom of speech is closely related to freedom of thought. More interesting themes were listed in this website. https://www.litcharts.com/lit/inherit-the-wind/themes
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    This may be a silly question but why wouldn't or couldn't they have just sold everything and split the money how ever many ways and move on? Did they really think they could build up twi to make it the golden goose that it was in the 70's and 80's.
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    "Time to come home is a strategic plan to reach out to individuals who once fellowshipped with The Way Ministry, but, for whatever reason, currently do not." This "strategic plan" of twi is a pathetic and deceitful lie to tempt people to return to the dog's vomit whereas Jeremiah 29:11 speaks the truth, "For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." I think the song below also speaks of what it truly means to come home for anyone who is missing loving fellowship. ("come home" is in the chorus )
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    That's the real kicker in this. It's like their way of saying, "If what you're saying about vp, lcm and twi are true, let's just pretend what they did never happened." or "What you're saying about vp, lcm and twi is not true and never have been true, but we'll pretend you never said it (yeah right) and we graciously invite you back." And the egotism lives on...
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    Hmm - let me see, I get to - lack nothing - lie down in green pastures - be lead beside the still waters - have my soul restored - be lead in the paths of righteousness - walk through the valley of the shadow of death without having fear of evil - be comforted by his rod and his staff - sit at a table prepared for me in the presence of mine enemies - have my head anointed with oil - have my cup running over - assuredly have goodness and mercy follow me all the days of my life - (last but not least) dwell in the house of the LORD forever. I think you're right T-Bone - this does describe the more abundant life . Hand me the green card where I can sign up for all this .
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    Strange how some things change - I used to pity the ones who didn’t but they were the smart ones after all.
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    Being introspective would definitely be a two-edged sword for the corps - all that criticism causing you to look inside your thoughts and feelings and see nothing but sin and weaknesses would cause anyone to loathe themselves plus with Christ being out of the picture - there was no light, truth and love to bring wisdom and inner strength. I know how dark and painful sin-consciousness and self-loathing are and that was just with me pointing all the fingers at myself - coming to know Christ after leaving twi is such deliverance.
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    I knew about the legalism in twi, but the introspective part is new to me. OldSkool, can you explain how that worked?
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    Thank you so so much. I used to listen and sing along to the song "Love Child" during my first pregnancy - I haven't heard it in over 40 years. I'm sure it'll be both a joyful and tearful reunion when I listen to it again. Thanks again Stayed Too Long.
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    No problem Annio. Grieving such a loss over what you missed out on in your relationship with Christ because of twi will be according to your own personal timetable. Check back in if and when you want - the best thing I learned from being on GSC was that I'm not alone and neither are you.
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    Thanks OldSkool - you brought up so many poignant points and truths about twi and their hold on people. One can see from your post how great our deliverance was once leaving this cult.
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    I really like how you spoke about the ocean. Being in or nearby any body of water has been a soothing place for me. Your connecting it to what truth is was notable. And that's why I find it a problem being too focused on just one thing like a Bible class (pfal) or what one person says about the Bible (collaterals) or in looking at scriptures through the lens of what one man taught (vp) - it is so confining when one truly wants to understand how immense God is.
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    By the words Mike used above, I think he is believing that we have problems with a certain devil spirit. OldSkool mentioned something to this effect in a recent post of his. I once stumbled across an old thread titled Are Grease Spotters "Possessed?" There were some pretty humorous comments I enjoyed reading.
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    I agree with So_Crates when he said "Here's a wild idea: why don't YOU become meek and I'll tell you about all the fruit in my life since I stopped making PLAF the center of my life." There have been so many testimonies from posters of how their lives have improved spiritually, mentally, financially, etc. after leaving and recovering from twi. Either you are skipping over them because they make you feel too uncomfortable or you can't allow yourself to believe they're true - and maybe there are other unknown reasons for your doing so. The point is that although you may miss the impact of their testimonies, many others like myself, did not.
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    I have had different mindsets when I've replied to Mike since being on GSC. It's like a pendulum where I swing back and forth between extremes and sometimes I'm more in the middle. At times I know my posts are pure emotional reactions to what he had written and other times, I'm a lot more contemplative in my word choice. There's also the spiritual side where Christ might have been guiding me as to what to say. Because I have these metal balls banging back and forth in my brain and because this is an open forum, I think it's fair to let posters relate to Mike in whatever way they choose, within rules of course . In Mike's case, years of striking at a rock has produced little to nothing, but who knows, maybe one day Christ will cause water to flow out of it (I've been reading Exodus 17 ). I'm not moralizing here, I just like there to be peace and quiet like in "What about Bob?" Dr. Leo Marvin: I want some peace and quiet! Bob Wiley: Well, I'll be quiet. Siggy: I'll be peace! A lot of wisdom in that movie .
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    Hi Rocky, You recently wrote the following about Mike in your post to T-Bone Then again, perhaps someday YOU will understand there's NFW you're going to get through Mike's impenetrable confirmation bias. IF you want to address the imagined lurkers, you might consider a different strategy than just being tossed about with every wind of Mike's bull shonta You and I once traded some posts about how you claimed OldSkool was putting Mike in a box by saying he "will never get it." You shared with me about Dale Carnegie's teaching that we should give people a reputation to live up to. You also sent me the post where you wrote about not placing stumbling blocks in front of our brothers and sisters. After reading these two suggestions, I later apologized to Mike about once again putting him in a box. Seeing your support of Mike in the quotes above, I'm wondering why you replied to T-Bone's post to Mike as quoted in blue above?
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