TheSongRemainsTheSame

Oak,

At the risk of saying I was there when LCM proclaimed it and saw the stats set up in the WOW auditorium, well I just did, so I suppose whatever risk I assumed is now over~~~ uhm where was I ~~~ oh yeah~~~ and the WOW program was no longer needed~~~ and ~~~ well Oak ~~~ I don't

really know~~~ All I know was some guy in a White Suit raising TWO arms with THREE fingers in each hand and him in the middle~~~ hell that's all I know~~~

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Catcup,

I can not understand for the honest of me your choice to

"I am putting up my TWI tape library for auction on eBay,"

Why would you do that?

Song

"I just hate throwing away something that somebody else can use"

10-4

I'm just a kitten.

I, I don't want to do this~~~

Wish You Were Here

Is my Fav PF lyrics

Song

Pink-Floyd's Lyrics - Breathe Lyrics

Breathe, breathe in the air

Don’t be afraid to care

Leave but don’t leave me

Look around and chose your own ground

For long you live and high you fly

And smiles you’ll give and tears you’ll cry

And all you touch and all you see

Is all your life will ever be

Run, rabbit, run

Dig that hole, forget the sun,

And when at last the work is done

Don’t sit down, it’s time to dig another one

For long you live and high you fly

But only if you ride the tide

And balanced on the biggest wave

You race toward an early grave.

Yo OM,

try a pacifier!!!

I have always wondered why I don't smoke when I sleep.

When I am awake I smoke as smokers do.

But when asleep, I don't.

hmmm

Where then is the habit located?

Simon And Garfunkel - Mrs Robinson Lyrics

And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson

Jesus loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)

God bless you please, Mrs. Robinson

Heaven holds a place for those who pray

(Hey, hey, hey...hey, hey, hey)

We'd like to know a little bit about you for our files

We'd like to help you learn to help yourself

Look around you, all you see are sympathetic eyes

Stroll around the grounds until you feel at home

And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson

Jesus loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)

God bless you please, Mrs. Robinson

Heaven holds a place for those who pray

(Hey, hey, hey...hey, hey, hey)

Hide it in a hiding place where no one ever goes

Put it in your pantry with your cupcakes

It's a little secret, just the Robinsons' affair

Most of all, you've got to hide it from the kids

Coo, coo, ca-choo, Mrs Robinson

Jesus loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)

God bless you please, Mrs. Robinson

Heaven holds a place for those who pray

(Hey, hey, hey...hey, hey, hey)

Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon

Going to the candidates debate

Laugh about it, shout about it

When you've got to choose

Ev'ry way you look at it, you lose

Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio

A nation turns its lonely eyes to you (Woo, woo, woo)

What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson

Joltin' Joe has left and gone away

(Hey, hey, hey...hey, hey, hey)

CM,

Your gracious offering of an apology is noble indeed. And believe me, I was not having a beef with you.

I know what you mean ,"rubbed the wrong way", while reading a poster.

I return your apology because there is no need of one between us. Slight misunderstanding is all. Like a fender bender in a parking lot.

Peace fer sure~~~

Sallude

dig it

Rok On

Song

Oak, That's funny to answer the door in the nude. I'll have to try it.

Ya know that every where I went as a Way Believer I felt compelled to witness whenever possible.

That just did not feel right, although I did it, and was able to bring home the stories to twig.

& especially a newbie!!!

Oh look at me eh.

Hey, that stuff TWI doled out as the truth sure made a monkey on my back.

It was like looking at people as sub spieces. Two times tops they got the chance to come to fellowship, after that, wipe the dust from your feet.

That is so foreign to me anymore. I really can not believe that I thought that way. But I did. Ain't none no denying that. Everyone is your pal. Remember that one from JAL. Everyone is a potential recruit for PFAL and subsequent programs.

Witnessing TWI/PFAL felt so unnatural. Now to sit down and discuss things as people do, kewl. But if the eye is to just get that person into the class so that they can know the truth as no one else since the first century church, is total hood winkism.

I was ONE of the ONES in the whole world that really knew the truth, ya know in the God's Royal Household.

Sure I loved to help folks. But the focus from TWI mentality was to get them to take the class.

After being out for about 10 years and bringing my mind to think for myself, I now truely help people! I don't go out looking for that, it's just there.

For example:

I am a subcontractor in the construction arena. My bids are on the high side because I am a master carpenter!

There is a divorced mother of two. She wants a new rear deck in place of the existing. She requested three seperate bids for three options.

I gave her the bids.

I called to see if she had made a choice.

Well as the conversation developed, I could tell that she could not afford any of the proposals. She never said that she could or could not.

She revealed to me what the other contractors quoted and that we were all in the same field.

Mind you, I never sell anyone anything. I offer my services and even tell the client to call in other contractors to bid. But of course, I have some serious photo resume.

She said she would have to think about it.

We hung up.

I knew her "thinking about it" was all she could do.

I kept thinking about it.

I called her back within 15 minutes.

I gave her a per diem quote which is literally 1/3rd the labor cost. Also told her that I was not performing the requested work out of pity, but rather compassion her financial condition.

There was long draw of silence.

Steven, that is very kind of you. Are you sure...>>>"

I interrupted her, "...don't be concerned about that. Do you accept the proposal?

She so happily agreed! That is what she can afford.

She also said that she would tell others at the next community meeting.

But that was not my motive!!!

That is the type of "witnessing" that one should perform~~~

Compassion of heart in the time of someones need.

and not motivated by ulterior motives to catch some ones soul into the Royal Stranglehold of TWIs'God/Godess

...just to be the good neighbor.

& believe me, i'm no none the epitome of compassion. For i do have the middle finger, one on each hand, that I have to deal out from time to time.

Rok On

Song

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As I think who am I and recall my evil past.

interesting you would think your past "evil"

For God is like the greater light and Jesus the Christ is like the lesser light but we are like the stars which are light in deed but not as bright as the Sun or the noon but having our glory of light but third to the main lights we see in our fleshly heaven The main being the sun and next the noon and last us the stars. But this is not like the spiritual lights of true like the light of God being the greater light and Jesus the Christ being the lessor light and us being the lights less than the lessor light our brother Jesus the Christ.

We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that you take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts~~~IIPeter1:19

Catcup,

I can not understand for the honest of me your choice to

"I am putting up my TWI tape library for auction on eBay,"

Why would you do that?

Song

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Just say "NO" to cults.

could not resist

fits right into this thread~~~

don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy~~~

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I think your suffering from self-delusions, but analize away. After all, I'm who ever you want me to be. Perhaps I'm the man in the mirror.

Don't forget, Song, it is you who talks in circles, reads into, and analyses everything. Best thing is to let a fool stew in their own juices.

Damn I missed this one ~~~

jeeesh I almost feel like a Joe Walsh song coming on

ahhh s h i t what else is new

i suppose there would have been three sets of books

one for the record

one off the record

and their own record

There was a moment when VP said, gist, ~~~ the financial books are open for view, we have nothing to hide~~~

Any one remember???

it was during a deprogramming gig at a ROA where someone was 'rescued/escaped' and put on stage and the financial books were opened for view for that person and that person declared such a thing and TWI was protecting that person from the deprogrammers~~~???

Cheers, Wassail, Sallude to the both of you and your companionship!

Yo Southern Belle!!!

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Every time someone moved it was an open invitation to go door to door witnessing. I absolutely hated it! Especially when it was in my apartment complex or neighborhood.

Dig it!!! Yeah especially ingnore the "NO SOLICITATION"!!! And usually the dinner hour, or a Saturday, or a Sunday.

I hate people knocking on my door to witness to me, I sure as heck don't want to peeve my neighbors by doing the same thing to them. When we first moved into our neighborhood we were going to, oh joy, do the door to door witnessing thing, but it was presented to us as just meeting our neighbors and introducting ourselves. I could deal with that.

I really don't mind that at all. I suppose it's a compassion toward those who have the compelling desire to sell their religion. Jeesh what am I saying!!!

Yeah Belle, don't ya just love that Meet the Neighbors in the guise of potential recruits for the truth.

The girl I was with was a fun person. We met several neighbors and one lady actually invited us in for tea. We had a very nice conversation and it was refreshing to just be chatting with no ulterior motive of having to get around to selling her on TWI right away.

Now, that's a kewl. Had that happen a few times.

That's what I offer if ever there be a WITTnasaur knock 'pon my door.

But I have a special tea that I offer.

My ex and his partner did the same thing. When we got back to our house for a "recap" we were all reproved for not actually witnessing! Funny how 90 percent of us all had the same impression of what the goal for the day was --- to introduce ourselves. This is the one time my ex stood up for us, but ended up apologizing that there muyst have been a mis-communication somewhere.

Why oh why does that sound so familiar to me?

Rok On Belle!!!

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yeah--

cars coming and going, uh

closed curtains for big spiritual meetings

yelling accompanied with spit, hmmm

sounds like a meth lab hahaha

Yo DaddyHoundog,

Nice chuckle there,

but I don't really think a meth lab would draw that kind of traffic.

More like a secret society with nothing to hide would though!

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I'm the italic guy

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One thing you have to factor in is that neighbors aren't as close today as they were when I was a kid. People move more for one thing. The house I grew up in I lived at from age 1 to college and most kids I knew seemed to be the same way. We had progressive dinners all the time. This is where one house would supply the appetizers, the next house the main course, and so on. I haven't seen that since being a kid.

John, that is so true. When I was a kid we moved twice, but within the same town.

I Lived in the new residence from 5>18. My 73 year young Mom has been there for 45 years. All neighbors in that block have a residency of 20>50 YEARS. I dig the progressive dinners deal. That did occur during the holidays back when then, but now more like favorite recipes are delivered and traded.

I can't say what effect it would have had if one of the neighbors was in TWI, but my family was pretty liberal (father was an atheist) yet the other neighbors most of whom were strict Christian Reformed still respected us as neighbors and I was friends with their kids and stuff, so I don't know.

Yeah, dig it. My Dad did not care to much for church. He was rather dissappointed their racial views. About my 12th year he decided never again to attend church. That would be 1967. All that Civil Rights and etc. And he never attended again.

Most of the neigbors were Southern Baptist, being Savannah, Ga.

There were the Greek Orthodox, the Catholics, and those of "the Jewish Faith" ~~~ such a prejudice.

The Mormons & JW's would come around and all were very nice with each other.

Then TWI came to town ~~~ and we hit up every household in Paradise Park (500 ++ homes my estimate)~~~ amazing.

When I was in TWI I guess neighbors were suspected plants of the adversary until proven otherwise. Some of the TWI people were more friendly than that but mostly that whole cult label got to me that way.

That is an interesting thought.

Thanks johniam

Song

beware,

i am possessed by a 5 star

BOO

I withdraw the F U K U that for some reason we misunderstand each other and I have no clue what reason that is but seems to me you do.

Care to start somewhere regarding peace ???

Song

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(((Song))) the mind sure can be a trip sometimes, eh? but I will not derail further. Just wanted to send ya a hug.

Religion is merely a reflection of the strengths and weaknesses of humanity

If it weren't for derail, I suppose the first two human beings would have to learn how to punctuate~~~

(((((((Abi)))))))