igotout
-
Posts
1,437 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Calendar
Gallery
Posts posted by igotout
-
-
Small numbers is right! It makes me wonder if that's not exactly what the powers that be want.
They got all the money. It is much easier to manage a small handfull of staff members to keep the grass mowed and send out a few tapes and "assist" the top leadership with their every little need.
All the benefits they have..... no worries about insurance, taxes, medical, electric, food, automobile maintenance, on and on it goes.
A nice little cornfield cocoon. All made possible by past ABS. Why grow and have all the headaches associated?
Better to stay small and have all the worker bees take care of the rest.
Some of our local churches have grown at a faster rate and have more godly results..... especially with the youth.
From what I hear from recent folks who have left, THE WAY is boring. Youth can't stand that at all! I'd leave too.
PS - Regards to your family, Skyrider. Give them our love.
-
In that same section be sure to "Clear Forms" and "Clear Passwords". Gets rid of the history.
-
-
Yeah, it looks like Cute PDF is good for free creation of PDF's I have never used it but from what I can tell it will do the trick. They have a version you pay for as well. Here is the comparison between their free version and the version you pay for.
I use the full blown version of Adobe Acrobat Professional 7 which of course is the biggie (but expensive):
-
-
Another is to use Adobe Acrobat, the full blown version, not the free reader.
-
I worked with him in the maintenance shop every day for several months. He was pretty cool for someone his age. He never seemed to really buy into all the concepts of TWI. I liked that.
He had a life before he joined TWI and those were his memories. He loved his wife and family very much. My condolences to them.
John Richeson
Tampa, FL
-
This is becoming a very funny thread. Socks I think you are getting funnier as you get older. Hell, my wife would have just taken Dave off the wall and smashed him over my head. (But actually we both like Dave.)
I remember reading that article when I got my Way Mag that month. That was during the time when they were all on a confrontation kick. You were supposed to be grateful for it or some shxt like that if I recall. I would rather have read this thread. It's better to laugh than cry.
Bob & Dootski are scary to me now when I look back. No wonder he never seemed to liked me. I was just never able to rise up in my fakeness enough to satisfy him I suppose.
Oh, and his confrontation to me was not at all like this nice syrupy article he wrote. Not at all! To me it was more like "my way othe highway". Europe can have him!
More analysis please. I need more laughs!
-
Well, John it is entirely a different thng to say Black Sabbath was the father of Metal. (I saw them live in 1970 or 1971??, front row by the way. Awesome concert.)
It would be another thing to say Ozzie Osborn was MY father in Metal, and if I were to listen to hs doctrine and beliefs and retemorize them and make them my own on a regular basis. That would be a little weird. And I doubt if Ozzie would have put up with it one minute.
In TWI it went beyond a metaphor into serious religious belief. And no one ever told us to stop using that term, not even the man of God of our day and time, our father in the Word, Dr. Victor Paul Wierwille.
Somehow I think Craig wanted that same adulation, but it never quite went that far with him. Although we were NEVER alowed to use the term CRAIG in TWI 2. It was grounds for getting kicked out in a heartbeat. It was Rev. Martindale or nothing!
-
I haven't been able to tell much difference. It looks like MP3's are here to stay. Not sure why really. Just caught on fast and here we are.
I first started getting familiar with the whole MP3 thing with the original Napster site back before it was considered illegal. It as all so new, people were freely sharing millions of MP3's. It was like the Woodstock of MP3's.
Some of the downloaded MP3's were not great quality, others were outstanding.
Funny thing is, most people I know who downloaded bunches of MP3's from back then kinda stopped. Not because of the pressure from the recording industry, but because they had enough, they had their fill. Enough was enough.
-
That's great to get those on DVD. I have finished converting all mine to DVD, going back to 1988 when I had one of those bulky shoulder mounted cameras, cost $900 I think.
I paid as much as $40 per tape using YES DVD.
Today a person can do it themselves.
Have you used any dual layer media yet? Holds several tapes I think.
-
Royal, I am not getting sound on this one. Is sound included?
-
I do, in the context of how it was promoted and stated in TWI.
"Call no man Father" that is a pretty clear exhortation.
I first heard some of this as early as 1974 when I first took PFAL. The WOW's who witnessed to me CLEARLY stated that Dr. Wierwille was the "man of God of the world". Many used that phrase during those years.
Man of God of the World??
Later the expanded definition was he was "THE Man of God for our day and time for the entire world." I believed it for a short while. Later I began to seriously doubt it. Having come from a Catholic background in the 50's it was a little to Pope-ish for my taste.
Didn't they used to call the Pope THE Vicar of Christ, THE sole reperesentative of Christ to man for the world? Infallible when speaking on matters of "faith and MORALS."?? Something like that.
Scary parallels. I began to see it as a crock.
Inspired, yes. Father in the Word, no way!! Not mine. No more than the Pope was.
-
Hi Royal. I see you are editing your videos I finally mailed back to you. You have tons of footage! Looking forward to getting some of those clips from you as we discussed.
I can tell you were an INNIE when you took those.
I was too. I wonder if they allow staff to have Video Cameras today? Do you know?
I wish I would have had a digital years ago.
Do you know what is causing the stuttering sound? Could it be the capturing process?
I heard they do not have the house of his healing presence anymore or the campfire area. But maybe that is just a rumor.
A lot of our sweat and blood went into manicuring those woods. I bet today thay are not maintained as well as they were then.
-
-
Ha, figures, Christ removed from the center. My goodness. I think Chris is still in. For the life of me, I can't understand some of those oldies. Just like our Bob & Dot who just took a new assignment from thier boss. Heck if I were them I would have stayed here in sunny Florida. Maybe their rent went up.
Oh, and sorry for the smell on that shirt, probably needs a good washing from being in the bottom of a drawer all those years.
-
Still have mine, Skyrider. I never really liked it. Designed by Anthony Pxxch of the 5th Corps.
I thought we were instructed to "Go Forth as leaders and workers in areas of concern interest and need."
Not "Come forth and work for TWI for the rest of your life in their areas of concern interest and need as a staff member".
As a young person I would have RUN from that scene as fast as I could and never looked back!
-
-
You, Ex, were one of the ones we reconnected with. I had no idea how much it had affected you. You suffered more than most in TWI. And shame on those poop heads for doubting your story with VP. It was hard for them to accept it I suppose.
And these forums have also been great for making new friends. Like you Belle. (I'll be in Orlando soon, after Christmas. Big job starting there. Lets have lunch.)
-
It's true what you said, Skyrider. In the 6th & 7th Corps we were distinctly under the impression that the Corps was 3 years and then you graduated. End of story. Unlike early Corps groups (who almost all became staff members in one way or another) we were large in number. Staff positions were abundantly filled, thank you very much. Of course we were expected to at the least run a twig, but some didn't even do that for various reasons (like being very busy in full time college or caring for a parent) yet they were still considered Corps and still welcomed.
There was no talk of a lifetime of christian service. If that phrase were ever used it was in context of..... a "lifetime of christian service", not a lifetime of being in a program in TWI.
I do remember VPW drilling us that "once Corps always Corps". So..big deal, of course. We were Corps grads. We were dedicated. But the majority of us had every intention of going on with our lives and doing what we wanted.
Some statements I remember from leadership in those years.
"The main reason for The Corps is to train twig leaders."
"Most of you should not aspire to be limb and branch leaders. Most of you should be twig leaders. And some of you should go to college and start businesses."
We were also encouraged upon graduation to state where we wanted to go and what we wanted to do. And if we did not know or did not care, TWI was burdened with doing our thinking for us and sent us somewhere as needed. Almost always those of us who stated what we wanted to do were given that assignment. And we could stay for years on end as long as we were happy.
The legalism crept in and those innocent days became "It's either my way or the highway." I guess its the highway for most these days.
Hey, I am still in my original "assignment" here in Tampa performing a lifetime of christian service.
-
Oldies, go away, go study the lost, last teachings with Mike. He needs an oldy, moldy buddy.
Yeah, I remember when I first saw Waydale I was skeptical because I was still in. I ignored it at first but eventually it became such a hot site, all of us were loooking at it......all of us...including leaders who browsed it discreetly.
Eventually it also became an awesome place to reconnect with old friends from all over the planet. Before Waydale we only had snail mail. I found people I never thought I'd hear from again and they were not possessed and were not losers. In fact they were happy and healthy. Shock!
It was a first, really, and Paul was an experienced web designer who was preparing to do TWI's web site while he was on staff. Big mistake for them to alienate him.
Personally, I believe God had a lot to do with it. It was inevitable in my opinion.
Why doesn't TWI have an interactive site where believers could post their thoughts? Other christian groups and churches do it? Especially for the youth. What is there to hide? Couldn't do any harm now. Maybe it would help them.
-
For those who were not around about 5 or 6 years ago, here is what WayDale looked like.
Look at the statistics under "What's New", first article called "WayDale Update"
Reminds me of that verse about "turning the world upside down"
-
Here is one of many similar programs a person could use if they were so inclined.
Here is an interesting FAQ from their site:
Q: Could I return to the forum which banned me for some reason with the help of Hide IP?
A: Yes, of course Hide IP could help you.
Here is how:
1. Clear your cookies and internet temporary files from InternetExplorer.
2. Open Hide IP first then and register with a new ID in the forum from which you were banned.
3. Always login to the forum with Hide IP opened.
Somebody copy and paste this post, please.
-
Small numbers....small recognition
in About The Way
Posted
I feel that anyone going int the Corps these days is simply going to work for TWI as an employee.
You are expected to be in compliance and agreement with your employer.....fair enough.
But if it were me I would look for gainful employent elsewhere. It appears the benefits suck.
I think some people are a bit lazy and want to coast along and be told what to do.
I would rather die.