WordWolf

I was introduced to him as a kid, since he was in a very famous movie in the 1970s. He's been in at least 2 more that I know of, one of which was "Top Secret!" The other has no other actors of renown. ("The Beast Must Die!", a werewolf whodunit, complete with a pause to let you try to guess the killer before the movie shows you.)

"Now, I know your mama, she don't like me, 'cause I play in a rock and roll band. And I know your daddy, he don't dig me, but he never did understand. Your papa lowered the boom, he locked you in your room-- I'm comin' to lend a hand. I'm comin' to liberate you, confiscate you, I want to be your man. Someday we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny. But now you're sad, your mama's mad And your papa says he knows that I don't have any money Your papa says he knows that I don't have any money Oh, your daddy says he knows that I don't have any money. Well, tell him this is his last chance to get his daughter in a fine romance- 'Cause a record company, Rosie, just gave me a big advance!"

Orson Bean was in the Rankin-Bass theatrical cartoon. Ian Holm played him in the LotR movies, and Martin Freeman played the young Bilbo in the Hobbit trilogy. Leonard Nimoy sang "the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" some time ago. (I heard it in high school.) ("Bilbo, Bilbo Baggins, the greatest hobbit of them all.") " The Hobbit" and "Lord of the Rings" inspired lots of books and things, and the entire Dungeons and Dragons game system, setting, cartoon, movies, etc, etc. Although there were a few name changes- hobbits became halflings, ents became treants, and so on.

That's him.

I'll switch songs but retain the same artist. I might be the only current poster who knows that song. "Now, I know your mama, she don't like me, 'cause I play in a rock and roll band And I know your daddy, he don't dig me, but he never did understand Your papa lowered the boom, he locked you in your room-- I'm comin' to lend a hand I'm comin' to liberate you, confiscate you, I want to be your man Someday we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny."

Wild swing on the movie, "the Green Hornet"???? Seth Rogen was in it and Cameron Diaz might have been in it. Olmos, I have no idea since I still haven't sat down to watch the whole movie.

Tom and Huck are well-known in the US. This character is NOW well-known around the world- but most especially in New Zealand. Becoming that big a deal in a country is no short order, let me tell you. IIRC, this character appeared in 5 out of 6 movies (I don't think he was in the middle one.)

Val Kilmer Top Secret! Peter Cushing

"Difficult verses must be understood in light of the clear verses."

Ok, name the role..... Felix Felton Paul Daneman Orson Bean Nicol Williamson Norman Bird John Le Mesurier Bernard Cribbins Michael Beatie Ian Holm Martin Freeman Leonard Nimoy once sang a ballad about this character. (I really thought this would be a short turn....) Those last 2 actors should really be the giveaway. (According to him, this character came out of a bag, but no bag went over him.) This character appeared in 2 stories, a stand-alone novel and a follow-up story. Those 2 stories inspired entire entertainment franchises, not even counting the movies that came much later. "Good morning!"

None whatsoever. Waxit refuses to even consider whether the Sabbath is to be regarded or not. He assumes it is to be kept, period. The only point he'd consider is on which day it should be observed. He's arguing against something nobody asserted ("it's supposed to be on Sunday!"- said nobody), and supposedly looks more reasonable because he's not saying that. But as to which day the Sabbath is to be observed among Christians, the Epistles are rather clear the answer is "none of the above." We could discuss it in more detail. Sadly, Waxit's not going to participate in such a discussion, and probably would skip over the actual discussion, despite being most in need of it.

Or you checked my last post for a clue, that might help. Failure's sting can be sharp.

"Crazy Janey and her mission man Were back in the alley tradin' hands. 'Long came Wild Billy with his friend G-Man All duded up for Saturday night. Well, Billy slammed on his coaster brakes And said, "Anybody wanna go on up to Greasy Lake? It's about a mile down on the dark side of Route 88 I got a bottle of rosé so let's try it."

Ok, name the role..... Felix Felton Paul Daneman Orson Bean Nicol Williamson Norman Bird John Le Mesurier Bernard Cribbins Michael Beatie Ian Holm Martin Freeman Leonard Nimoy once sang a ballad about this character. (I really thought this would be a short turn....)

"Crazy Janey and her mission man Were back in the alley tradin' hands. 'Long came Wild Billy with his friend G-Man All duded up for Saturday night."

Ok, name the role..... Felix Felton Paul Daneman Orson Bean Nicol Williamson Norman Bird John Le Mesurier Bernard Cribbins Michael Beatie Ian Holm Leonard Nimoy once sang a ballad about this character.

Cheez....someone flamed us, the mods didn't let them get away with it, and now someone's going to make a federal case because the mods took action?

https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/22916-stringing-chairs-in-the-brc/?tab=comments#comment-539121 Skyrider, Feb 26, 2012. "Stringing Chairs in the BRC." I've got a confession to make.... On my interim year at hq.....I was assigned to oversee the responsibility of stringing chairs in the BRC. Thus, it was my household duty after supper to oversee each corps group with stringing chairs and setting up top-floor BRC before the next meeting. So, for a couple of weeks.... the supply box would come out and the chairs would be strung in perfect rows. Well......it didn't take long before I saw this nifty short-cut. Since these chairs had been placed in, basically, the same position for years......we would shut off the overhead lights and use the 'lover lights' only because then, the carpet showed the indentations more clearly. Voila! No more string was needed. Seriously.....we had straight rows and BRC set-up accomplished in about 12 minutes. The inrez corps loved me for it.....as we 'outsmarted' the taskmasters and went about our merry way. It was our own little secret. A secret that, until today.........I don't think I've ever confessed. ================================================== For those who don't know what Skyrider is talking about, an explanation.... I'll explain what skyrider was talking about. If you keep chairs in one area, you will get grooves in carpeting where the legs move (back and forth, in the same areas.) But if you keep chairs each in EXACTLY one spot, the carpet will get a tiny groove in the shape of each leg, in the spot where each leg normally rests. So, a 4-legged chair will leave 4 little indentations in the spots where the chair legs rest. What skyrider did was turn off all the direct lights and use angled, indirect light to highlight the indentations. (A slower method might have been to use a flashlight, but skyrider's method was both available and fast.) Then what the crew did was take each chair, line up the 4 legs with the 4 indentations, then put the chair down. (It's as if the floor was marked with 4 little x's where the feet of the chair were supposed to be.) That went a LOT faster than the entire "and we studied the rows of chairs, then adjusted them, then we took out the string..." production would have taken. By the time someone else would have finished a few rows, they were done with ALL the chairs, then probably changed the light levels so the indentations would become invisible again. :) They were supposed to use a line of string to line up all the chairs in a row together, but Skyrider found a smarter, faster way to line up the chairs. .

IIRC, it was around 1953 that he encountered both Leonard's class and Stiles' book (and Leonard and Stiles.) Yes, a decade after that, with him showing no real success in his ministry- at least as HE measured success. Once he encountered Leonard's class and Stiles' book, that changed. He taught a class identical to Leonard's and printed a book identical to Stiles', with later versions of each actually adding changes. What vpw taught was based almost entirely on a mix of what other people taught first- Leonard, Stiles, Bullinger, Kenyon.... Yes, his stealing from Leonard and Stiles was pretty prompt. He turned around within months of exposure to each and made their clones.

That's a shame, but I'm glad you remembered something. At the least, I thought it would ring a familiar bell. (No, this character had nothing to do with bells, AFAIK.)

Ok, name the role..... Felix Felton Paul Daneman Orson Bean Nicol Williamson Norman Bird John Le Mesurier Bernard Cribbins Michael Beatie Leonard Nimoy once sang a ballad about this character.

B) The alleged promise was a lie. Supposedly, God Almighty promised He would teach like it hadn't been known since the 1st century AD. If this were true, there would be a complete disconnect with what was being taught and known elsewhere in 1942 EVERYWHERE and what vpw later taught (because we know he taught others.) However, even those who idolize vpw agree that the material he taught was already taught by others. A paper trail can be traced for virtually all the twi material vpw taught. vpw took Leonard's class, and a few months later, taught 100% of the same material. vpw bought Stiles' book, then typed up a book with the contents- later adding the contents of books by Bullinger to flesh it out more. And so on. So, either God Almighty lied when giving this promise, someone else claiming to be God lied and vpw couldn't tell the difference between a lying spirit and God Almighty, or vpw lied and nobody promised him at all. C) The alleged promise was based on ignorance. twi's system shares a trait with the Mikean system- they're both Gnostic systems based on secret knowledge. The twi system-which was vpw's system, set up by him and used by him all the time- was that study of the verses was the key to God (plus the "Law of Believing"),. So, the more you study the verses, the more "godly" you can become, especially if you study it the twi way. We've all seen far too many horror stories of twi "masters" who partly memorized vpw/twi materials and were bigger schmucks if anything. Geer spent hours going over vpw's teachings in between drugging women for vpw to rape and preparing to throw himself over vpw as a human shield if anyone tried to shoot him. But, let's expose the IGNORANCE in the alleged "promise." How DID the 1st century Christian church know God's Word? They knew the Torah/Old Testament. They knew the SPOKEN word, They knew The Word BY EXPERIENCE AND POWER. Think about it. They were getting converts left and right while being a disciple was ILLEGAL and punished by imprisonment, murder, or both. They got LOTS of converts with that going on. No amount of charismatic demagoguery can make up for the risk of being killed or imprisoned. You might get a few disaffected outsiders. Saul of Tarsus joined them - a former persecutor and murderer of Christians (he didn't put his hand on the knife, but he ordered it done.) Did the Greeks hear good speeches then run out and conclude that their gods walked among them and prepared to offer blood sacrifices? They SAW something. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. However, provide the extraordinary proof, and the claims stop looking extraordinary-at least in comparison to the proof. The 1st century Christians preached-but were known because they had power and could deliver where they spoke. Lots of people preached and didn't get significant converts. Theirs was a pragmatic, direct, power-based ministry. twi was never that. They were study-based, and TALKED ABOUT power lots of times, then considered "Kojacking" a significant witness of "power." 1st century Christians were never centrally-controlled nor organized. twi bore no resemblance to 1st century Christianity except where twi CLAIMED they did. But all the claims don't mean reality matches a claim. The 1st century Christians probably didn't have access to the entire New Testament ANYWHERE. All documents had to be hand-copied. With no printing press and no scanners and PDFs, that was a laborious process and few copies circulated for the 1st century AD (certainly relative to now.) So, twi has NEVER had "The Word as it was known in the 1st Century." because vpw NEVER had "The Word as it was known in the 1st Century." vpw might have known that when he phrased the promise he was supposedly given, but he skipped over "Church history". So, he was likely to make such a mistake where God Almighty would not. vpw made up the alleged 1942 promise. and it's easy to show all the errors. There was no such promise. There's no real, sensible reason to laud vpw or "his" books. They don't comrpise "revelation."

Every now and again, someone still claims that pfal and twi were special. Their reason for this is the claim that vpw was special. Their reason for this is the 1942 promise. vpw claimed he received a promise from God Almighty in 1942, and he used this claim to justify thinking of "his" books and classes to akin to the Bible itself. The supposition that pfal was of significant long-term benefit hangs primarily on the alleged "1942 promise." That promise, as stated by vpw, was that God spoke audibly to vpw, and promised that God Almighty would teach vpw God's Word ;like it hadn't been known since the first century (AD) if vpw would teach it to others. vpw supposedly asked God to confirm this by a miraculous snowstorm. All right, how many ways can we show this 1942 promise failed? We've done it lots of times before, this is mostly compilation. A) The miraculous snowstorm never happened. There was NO report of actual snow anywhere near where this allegedly happened. When it supposedly happened, he didn't even tell his own wife it happened. Come on, that would have been the first words out of any spouse's mouth that evening. ("Honey, you'll never believe what happened to me today...") He never claimed it until decades later. He couldn't keep the details of the miraculous event straight, even. When he first began making this claim, he said the sky looked BLACK with all the heavy snow. This, BTW, isn't what it looks like for even the heaviest snow. Later-probably because he learned that doesn't happen- he switched to saying the sky was WHITE with snow. I'm sure details can get lost over time, but if a miraculous event that turns the sky all one color, you'd at least remember the color. Finally, this wasn't the only time vpw claimed a miraculous snowstorm. In fact, he did it whenever it was convenient. When he added special significance to the minister's conference where he met Stiles, vpw claimed that the entire city was snowed in completely. He was unable to get out because planes, trains and buses were all stopped due to heavy snow conditions, a blizzard. This was a rather big lie, and one that was checkable. When someone spoke to him about it, he didn't say "I was there and saw the snow and walked in it, check again", he immediately switched his story to prevent trying to contradict the weather report. He immediately began claiming the snow was an angelic apparition- angels made him see snow that wasn't there, and when he phoned transit places, angels answered the phone and lied to him. (He would rather have us think angels lied than that he lied.) In reality, not even a single FLAKE fell from the sky in that city that day, and the temperature didn't reach freezing. This wasn't the last time vpw made up a convenient snowstorm, even. A poster here once noted that vpw was supposed to visit their area. Instead, he phoned and said that he WANTED to fly there, but he was located at a bad snowstorm and he was told it was unsafe. The poster checked the weather in vpw's area at the time, and there was neither snow nor storms predicted. So, the entire snow part was a lie. Without that, there's no 1942 promise. However, even if it was possible for there to have been a snowstorm (it's not possible), the other problems with his story would be enough to discredit it. There WAS no 1942 promise. vpw was NEVER some great one. pfal was NEVER some great class nor great study materials. It was all built up as a con-and not the most secure con, either. It needed lots of outside help to prop it up.

Ok, name the role..... Felix Felton Paul Daneman Orson Bean Nicol Williamson Norman Bird John Le Mesurier

Buddy Holly, Ben Hur, Space Monkey, Mafia..... "WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE." It's a comforting thought that there were hard times before we got here, and there will be hard times after us, and that's part of life. This whole "it's worse than it's ever been" thing lacks perspective. (The other month I told Wordpup how the current concerns were a LOT less dangerous than the Spanish Flu about 100 years ago. Also told him to pay attention to what's going on and how he feels. He's living through future history, and his grandkids may ask him what it was like to live through this.)