Jump to content
GreaseSpot Cafe

Oakspear

Members
 View Profile  See their activity

  • Posts

    7,332

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    16

 Content Type 

Posts posted by Oakspear

    Quotation marks and multi-paragraph quotes.

    in Computer Questions

    Posted

    quote:
    Originally posted by Oakspear:

    quote:
    Originally posted by Cynic:

    When you people quote someone, your posts are sometimes difficult to follow:

    It should go:

    "(first paragraph)

    "(second paragraph)

    "(third paragraph)

    "(fourth paragraph)"

    Or even:

    "(first paragraph)"

    "(second paragraph)"

    "(third paragraph)"

    "(fourth paragraph)"

    It should NOT go:

    "(first paragraph)

    (second paragraph)

    (third paragraph)

    (fourth paragraph)"

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    Quotation marks and multi-paragraph quotes.

    in Computer Questions

    Posted

    quote:
    Originally posted by Cynic:

    When you people quote someone, your posts are sometimes difficult to follow:

    It should go:

    "(first paragraph)

    "(second paragraph)

    "(third paragraph)

    "(fourth paragraph)"

    Or even:

    "(first paragraph)"

    "(second paragraph)"

    "(third paragraph)"

    "(fourth paragraph)"

    It should NOT go:

    "(first paragraph)

    (second paragraph)

    (third paragraph)

    (fourth paragraph)"

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    Do innies have the right to lie?

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    If you're going to use the bible as your standard, then how does the bible define lying,and when does it allow it?

    It says in Exodus 20:16 - Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor - it doesn't exactly say "don't lie". What's the distinction? Not sure.

    Ephesians 4:25 - Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbor; for we are members one of another

    Now I can imagine twi defining "neighbor" in such a way as to exclude what they call unbelievers.

    but...

    Romans 12:17 - Recompense no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men

    I think it's pretty clear that the standard is honesty and truthfullness. It's also pretty clear that the bible make room for exceptions. Those exceptions always involve protecting yourself or your loved ones from those that would do you harm.

    TWI went beyond that to lying to avoid embarassment, lying to keep people in line, lying to maintain access to "sex slaves", lying to make the MOG look like...well, a MOG.

    And we can't blame this all on Martindale either. There wasn't any snowstorm in Tulsa that weekend.

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    Do innies have the right to lie?

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    ...we lied, or prevaricated, to avoid having to deal with the arguments with leadership.

    Maybe you knew it was best for your family to get a car loan, but you also knew that nothing you would say could convince "leadership".

    Another thing that encouraged deception "in the ranks" was the harsh way that we were dealt with when we did screw up. Who would want to admit that they needed help in an area when to do so would invite invasive scrutiny and condemnation of our "weakness"?

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    Do innies have the right to lie?

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    As "leaves on the tree", we were expected to be truthful and "fully share" with our leadership about all aspects of our lives, yet they did not feel the same obligation toward us.

    From the examples I see listed here, lying was done when a life was a stake, or something equally serious, revelation or not.

    Of course Martindale painted everything as life and death, so he had his excuses lined up and ready.

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    Do innies have the right to lie?

    in Getting help for cult dysfunction

    Posted

    I don't recall ever hearing Martindale "teach" on it, but our local Way Corps did:

    in 1995 or 96 Martindale wanted the Way Corps to find out where offshoot fellowships were functioning.

    I was instructed to call a woman who I knew from years before, who had graduated from the Corps and had split from Martindale immediately post-POP.

    I was to tell her that I was not with The Way, but was interested in going to some kind of fellowship. I was specifically instructed to lie to her in order to find out how many offshoot fellowships she knew about and who they were affiliated with.

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    Happy Birthday Oakmom 12/25

    in Birthdays and Anniversaries

    Posted

    You may have seen someone named Oakmom logged in on the boards from time to time, yes, that's my mother.

    She's never posted, but she's a regular reader of posts here at GS, and has been known to email threads to other family members.

    Her birthday is December 25th, Christmas Day.

    I'm posting this early, since I'll be extremely busy at work the closer we get to the holidays.

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    TWI/MUSIC/"WAY PROD EARLY DAYS"/THE BEAT GOES ON/ETC.....

    in Entertainment Archives

    Posted

    I couldn't think of anywhere else to post this, so...

    I was with a few friends Monday night, and since I didn't have to go to work the next morning, we closed the bar and went to a party at the home of a friend of a friend.

    After a while some guitars and other assorted instruments came out and some cool reggae jams started.

    Soon the host looks at me and says, "Tom, we need a percussionist, and you're it".

    He hands me a wooden frog, with a stick stuck through it. The frog had scales on his back for scritching, and made different sounds depending on where you hit it. He had two, so me and the woman who brought me to this party ended up "beating our frogs" into the wee hours of the morning.

    Wonder what Way productions would have done with it?

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    I don't care who reads this

    in My Story

    Posted

    Thanks for sharing here Mr. P-Mosh.

    I've got children your age, and sometimes wish I could rewind and undo some of the damage that was done to them by remaining in twi.

    Keep posting, keep sharing, your an important part of the Cafe.

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    TWI/MUSIC/"WAY PROD EARLY DAYS"/THE BEAT GOES ON/ETC.....

    in Entertainment Archives

    Posted

    quote:
    Originally posted by grasshopper:

    - Outlaws- Bring it Back Alive "hurry sundown" "green grass and high tides"

    Loved that Hop, saw them live a couple of times

    quote:

    Greatest guitar battle: Robbie Robertson vs Clapton and Jeff Beck on "further on down the Road" from The Last Waltz 1976

    Most definitely

    quote:

    Best TWI jam: PDSTRO with Rod Price of Foghat- ROA mid 80's jammed on "Attitude of Heart. I Remember Joe Fare just stepping back with an uh oh there he goes look on his face.

    Missed that one - Rod Price is awesome!

    Still a great thread! Listening to Etheridge's first album (CD) right now. Dick Dale is up next!

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    TWI/MUSIC/"WAY PROD EARLY DAYS"/THE BEAT GOES ON/ETC.....

    in Entertainment Archives

    Posted

    A la prochaine has been encouraging me to visit this thread, but Thanksgiving week in the grocery biz is BUSY! but I've got ime tonight.

    Ted F:

    You've got some great stories, man, what a life. You made some good points about every musical wave getting resistance from the parents, going back to the 20's. I think of that every time I hear one of my contemporaries put down rap/hip-hop as "crap". Gee, what did our parents ay about our music. And I remember my grandmother once making a disparaging remark about my Dad's Dixieland Jazz.

    Ron G:

    Firehouse 5, huh? My dad had (maybe still has) a bunch of their 78's when I was growing up, cool stuff.

    I always had a hard time with the twi take on "devilish" music. I think that they were very inconsistant about it. How things were interpreted depended on what kind of music your local leadership liked!

    It was obvious that most, if not all, Way Productions performers were influenced by secular musicians to a greater or lesser extent. I remember Harve Platig talking about going to Columbus or dayton or someplace so some guy could teach him the Eddie Van Halen style of playing the neck of the guitar - kind of a flash thing - that he incorporated into his playing.

    I mostly enjoy blues, fusion jazz, and 70's rock (I'm listening to Hush from the Deep Purple boxed set right now) but enjoy music from many different styles.

    My teenage son and I turned each other on to each other's music regularly. I'd go sit with him in his room while he was listening to modern rock and hip hop; I like some and hated others! I'll listen to The Offspring's SElf Esteem and day, and to the surprise of most adults my age, I actually enjoy Eminem! My son ended up becoming a great fan of some old rock dinosaurs: AC/DC, KIss, and Van Halen, go figure.

    Oh yeah, I'm glad I can now listen to Melissa Etheridge again without every "believer" telling me that she is a lesbian. Man, I love that song Only One.

    Oakspear

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is

    [This message was edited by Oakspear on November 24, 2002 at 22:39.]

×
×
  • Create New...