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LLPOF: My, my! Aren't we a little full of ourselves today? What was that about the love of God not puffing itself up? Such an ambassador for Christ you are! Wierwille's victims are still among us, yet you would take some phony "Reverend's" word over your sisters' in Christ? Martindale, Wierwille's hand-picked successor, has already had to go to court for his sexual abuses of his congregants, and the apple never falls far from the tree. You're deluding yourself. Blind in your idolatry for a man unremarkable, long dead and buried, you are doing the same as he did, twisting the Scriptures to satisfy your own lusts. You are making a stand for no one but your prideful ego. Yeah, good luck with that, Sparky.

GFO: It is, but not quite to the extent you're probably used to from JWO, and almost certainly not with the level of graphic detail. What difference does it make, if I may ask?

I don't think you can get Xcopy Platinum any more due to the litigation. DVD Shrink is still available as freeware. You need an external burning program like Nero, but DVD Shrink will re-compress DVD-9 movies to fit onto a DVD+/-R/RW 4.7GB disc. It will also let you ditch alternate language soundtracks, extras, etc. Works nice to make archival backups of your expensive storebought kids' movies so they don't scratch up the original DVDs.

Tom: Raf is a tolerant man, but he's not an idiot.

Steve!: Mostly it's because what the troll says is either extremely inflammatory, or, as in this case, ridiculously stupid. Incredulity turns into curiosity as to HOW the troll can say something that moronic. Wierwille's dead, and unless this LLPOF person has 24-hour surveillance tapes of every single day of VPW's life, there's absolutely no way he can refute the allegations of VPW's victims.

Steve!: It's typical of paper-tiger trolls. Talk big, then run away. At least most of ours ran off and infested the JWO site. I wonder how LLPOF and Mike would do over there?

Steve: Um, no, because he posted again on page 2... :)-->

DVD Shrink. It's all you'll need, and it's free.

Oh, I can just see that meeting now... LLPOF: Welcome to St. Louis. Victim: Thank you. Now, in 1979, VPW invited me to his motor coach, pulled down his pants, and tried to shove his Craig into my mouth. LLPOF: Liar! Victim: Ooooo-kay....and your basis for leaping to that conclusion is...? LLPOF: He was the Man O' GAWD! Victim: Yeah, that's what HE said, but yet there he stood, stark naked. I thought it was a Vienna sausage, but there was no toothpick through it. LLPOF: Liar! He was given an overabundance of brains and brawn such that the earth shook wherever he walked! Victim: Wait a second.... Mike, is that YOU? LLPOF: Uh....not as far as you know. Victim: Suuuuuure. LLPOF: Uh, what's that over there? (runs away)

Perhaps they just meant he was bigger than The Beatles? ;)-->

Steve: No fair! You peeked!

WG: It's a start! (But lawyers make more...and contribute even less to society...) :D-->

krys: Well, that was the first metallic-organ metaphor that leapt to my mind, too, but Cindy could never be mistaken for the applicable requisite gender. ;)-->

On the main forum page, the timestamp of the latest post in each forum is correct, but incorrectly associated with the name of a thread. What gives?

It's one of the problems stemming from the decay of our society. The trust that parents and teachers could once put into each other has dwindled to near nothing. Teachers can't trust parents to take the time to reinforce proper social behavior, let alone ensure that homework is completed satisfactorily. Parents don't trust teachers to exercise necessary discipline, so the power to control unruly children is gone. Schools have not gotten any better since corporal punishment was removed, in fact, the problems are getting worse. The social experiments of the 60s and 70s were not all good ideas. In fact, few were. "New math" was only a cute example. It was nothing compared to the disservice wrought by "political correctness" and absurd "self-esteem" building measures. The pay for teachers is so low relative to the cost of living that the majority of people drawn to the profession are either idealists or incompetents. That wouldn't be so bad, except that it seems the ratio of the latter to the former is above 1:1! Add to that those who rise to school management usually come from the incompetent side, and the good teachers are few, far between, grossly underpaid, undersupported, and colossally underappreciated. Cindy, I really don't understand how you put up with it. You must have iron guts.

Tom: In a nutshell, the network card in your computer can see every data packet that flies across the cable, it only catches those addressed to it. Usually. Some cards can be put into "promiscuous mode" and capture every single packet, regardless of the intended destination computer. Now, since Wi-Fi access is just like Ethernet without the wires, if you go to a public hotspot, every other computer in the restaurant/hotel/airport is on the same network as you are, so you can "sniff" their packets right out of the air, too. Now, the Wi-Fi connection should be encrypted so no one else but you can read your packets, but many places don't have the encryption protocol turned on because of the tech support headaches in trying to give every customer the right encryption key for the network. Most sites encrypt passwords, but many don't, and if you use the same username and password for many sites, all a sniffer has to do is catch you using it one place and simply snoop around until he finds some interesting site you visit. That's one way how you wind up on the Citibank identity fraud commercials.

It's yet another classic example of lowering the bar. The states get to define the pass/fail criteria for a school--how fudged up is that? Georgia recently announced a large percentage increase in the number of elementary school students who passed the state test for that grade, but then refused to reveal what a passing score was. It was eventually discovered that the passing grade was less than 50%. If your kids don't succeed, make the test easier! Lower your standards! Just don't discipline them, 'cuz it might make them feel bad, and don't help the teachers out because the money is better spent on Jumbo-Trons for the high school football stadium... I think lawyers and teachers should swap salaries.

George: I remember that, too. Wasn't it VPW badgering Walter C. into backing him up on the AoS thing?

Cynic: While I generally disagree with you on religious matters, I'm afraid you might be right about Mr. Schoenheit. One of the problems with TWI was that they felt they constantly had to come up with "new research". While some things were sorely-needed clarifications (Jesus Christ Our Promised Seed) some were just ridiculous stretches indicative of too much research for iconoclastic novelty's sake (Athletes of the Spirit, pretty much anything by Martindale). Sometimes I think that Schoenheit has fallen into the same trap. def59: Technically, no one is mentioned by name in John 1:1.

imbus: Not as much as you'd think. Breasts and fatty tissues are heavy, so they will tend to sag as the skin loses its elasticity. A man's genitalia, all jokes aside, aren't all that heavy in comparison, and since they're covered by the same skin, what might not be firm enough anymore to hold up a sagging butt can still manage to hold the shape of less-massive organs. The "bragging rights" thing is relative, too. There is no standard relationship between the size when soft and size when erect. In other words, one fellow's might be 5" when soft, but only grow to be 5.5" when erect. Another might be 3" when soft, but 7" when erect. The first guy might be ahead in the locker room, but it's the second guy's wife who really comes out ahead on the deal. It has to do with different men having different levels of elasticity in the erectile tissues. Does that help?

searcher: That's one way of looking at it, especially if one holds the view that there was no divine contact ab initio to spark the beginnning of religion as a God-man interface. Yet, before someone complains, further discussion along those lines is probably best left as a topic for the Doctrinal forum, in which I'd be glad to participate. If you want to keep this thread in this forum, you can start a new one down there for the other topic. (Technically, this thread would belong in "About The Way", but you didn't know. If it gets moved, that's where you can look for it, most likely.)

How happy I'd be? Are you nuts? The only non-Christians I absolutely don't want here are those who have to get their jollies by abusing Christians. I also don't want people, Christians or non-Christians alike, publicly trying to incite a cross-site flame war. I don't see any other reason for your post than doing so. Perhaps what I posted on Raf's site was a bit broad in including you at the time, but after this, I don't think it is now. Who said you were banned from Raf's site anyway? Why did you pick this thread to derail?

I was wondering when someone would get around to posting that. I'd quote the filth that elicited that post, except that: a) It wouldn't make it past the moderators due to all the obscene language, and b) It's still available for public view here and here as well as a couple of other threads. If you weren't involved in the trolling there, P-Mosh, I'd apologize, except that now you're starting a new troll off of Raf's site instead. Looks like the list was correct in the first place. But, please, report it to the site moderators for appropriate action. By all means. The site obviously needs less of people like me and more of people like you. Maybe you can teach Todd how to say "monkeyc***", too. Lord knows we don't see much of that around here now.

Tom: P-Mosh is being facetious.