WeWereScammed

"all other decisions were made by free will choice" - - - FREE WILL CHOICE BASED ON FALSE INFORMATION [ie We Were Scammed] "I think these are all gobbledygook rationalizations." - - - DUH!! Of course you do.

BULL! They were "released" and "booted out" in an atmoshere of incredible fear and condemation. Separated from friends and family, embarassed, and hurt. Thank God for the continuous complainers at GSC who have spoken out. The light has been turned on. Oldiesman you are just sore because your idol VPW has had his SCAM exposed. We Were Scammed.

Nothing TWI does makes sense and the higher beings are stupid.

I thought it was a rather mild salutation and statement of truth. I heartily agree with GH. I saw plenty of "rude" while in TWI. We Were Scammed.

Classic Christian behavoir. Defrauding a brother in Christ...Way Corps no less. Makes the "Great Beeg Peeg" story so much more credible. Wewerla Scammedala!

I remember the "flip out" phrase. /QUOTE]Don't forget "Tripped Out"

Brilliant. I nominate this by mstar as POST OF THE DAY.

Now why would a guy who worked the Word "hour after hour, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year", a guy to whom God spoke audibly, a guy who had a miraculous snowstorm performed by the creator of the heavens and the earth, a guy who was apparently the only man on the planet that would listen to God... why would this guy want to "get away " with something? Wasn't God's grace sufficient? I think he SCAMMED even himself.

Actually, it begs the question, Who Cares?

There's that German thing again.

Yeah, he feared we would learn that he was a SCAM.

TGN, Thanks for the exhortation...i'm not sure what you are talking about, but you seem to be waxing nostalgic about VP or something. Just so you'll know, I've never claimed to be "totally true".

VP understood how to SCAM better than Doop or Maltz.

That's it! IMO, everything ever discussed on GSC is rooted in that statement. (Well in the About the Way section anyway)

satori, Beautifully stated! I've often had those same thoughts. I think the deal with Wierwille is that he was one of those people that just was never going to work for someone else. Add to that his obvious desire to be esteemed. Didn't matter if he was the MOG for the whole world or CEO of some company...he wasn't going to take orders from anyone else. He had to be the big cheese. I believe he saw "ministry" as a way to achieve both goals. In his youth, the ministers were most likely held in great esteem, you know in that "German work ethic" culture of his. By going into the ministry he would be more educated than the local farming folks he grew up with, he could avoid the hard life than farming requires, he could avoid military service ( so he could "work the Word" [snort, chuckle], and he would have the esteem of his local community. Once he began working for a denomination, it was only a matter of time before he broke away to form his own group. Of course, God would have to supernaturally intervene and give him a personal invitation, or so he wanted us to believe. Was his 'spirituality" genuine during all of this. I think not. It was a means to an end. His lifestyle gives abundant evidence of this. I don't know if he ever envisioned a day where there would be 15,000 GEA's [glassy eyed adherents] sitting under a big tent on his ancestral farm land. Most likely his aim was just to get a local following,(maybe more than local), deliver his shrink wrapped, plagerized Bible classes, and collect the cash. Big fish, small pond. But he would be giving the orders. Somehow in the process, which includes the culture of the mid to late sixties and early seventies, he was able to capitalize on a bunch of gullible young people. Thus, what we know as TWI. When those braless hippie girls started showing up on a farm in Ohio, he became intoxicated with himself. The SCAM had taken root. "Losing our youth" is a term that I have heard on GSC several times over the past couple of years. I too have felt that I lost, or at least, wasted much of my youth due to TWI. Today, however, I don't blame Wierscam or TWI for ruining my youth. I take responisbility for that. I do blame them for not being what they said they were. I take responsibility for my decisions, but I did not live in a vaccuum.

Yeah, for a moment there I thought Rev. LCM had posted.

You CAN'T judge the man because he wasn't a man. Behind the smoke and mirrors, facade of sincerity, plagerised teachings, and on and on... the "man" behind the curtain was nothing more than a worthless SCAM. We, who were dumb enough to fall for it all, must learn to not judge ourselves for taking part in the delusion known as VPW & TWI with all its foolishness (ie MOG, snow on gas pumps, Pikes Peak, WOW,VP's "German work ethic" , spitirual adultery vs physical adultery, the "Corps", CF&S, "the world's greatest layman", "second rate causes".) You don't have to judge the man - his legacy says it all.

Just because he was a deceiving, cheating, lying, plagerising, egomaniac, delusional, pompous, idiotic, worthless bag of .... . . . that doesn't make him a nazi.

Actually, they didn't really want our adulation; they [it was hard for them, but somebody had to do it] were just giving us a chance to give so that God could bless us. We were fortunate to serve The Chosen Ones

There was an 8th category that was left out. . . Scamming and plageristic

How did we miss anything since it "separated truth from error".

OH! So that's what happened. Now I understand. God bless - You're the best!