Back again to the original post...Linda, you mentioned only two people whom you knew...at least one of whom you knew only years ago...as reasons that changed your mind. I am curious; did not the well known (or so I thought) anonymous "Marsha" account influence your thinking?
Thanks for your sharing. It was hard for me to accept the information that I heard here and on Waydale. I met with someone who was there and had first hand knowledge. This person was able to confirm these seemingly wild accusations. It was a ruuuuuuude awakening. I fell into depression and felt guilty for being part of a group that could do such things. It took me about two years just to start to see a little light.
I'm fine now and am still thankful for all the good that I learned and I feel that this site may help many people get out of a still very troubled situation. I'm very thankful for EXIE and the other brave souls who shared their stories. We still have a lot of work to do and people to rescue.
This is a forum for discussing our twi experiences.....Not a place to try to convince you personally lifted, or anybody else of our veracity.....and I certainly don`t care enough whether or not you believe me to actually use my name..... or be willing to give details and identities that are not mine in order to make my experiences appear to be more acceptable to you.
Geeeze, It is hard enough to relate some of this stuff without being hounded to give someone the salacious titilating little details....in order to satisfy their curiosity....
The information is there....whether or not you believe it is your choice...
Rascal, I am not asking you for anything personally, and especially not asking for anything that was mentioned privately. My question was for anyone who can answer. I refer only to anything that was posted publically, as it seems to be implied by gladtobeout. If someone tells me reliably I consider you among others reliable) that there is nothing posted publically, I will not bring up the subject again.
Perhaps you DO believe that my only purpose in asking is to cast doubt, in which case, so be it.
Several years ago, in the old Waydale days, I made some very fruitful queries on the same subject (sexual abuse in TWI) with a couple of posters and got some eye opening first hand testimony. I did not and do not doubt their testimonies. In those cases, VPW was not involved.
There is one long time ago poster who is still around from whom I once heard something even closer to the subject. But i have never inquired further for reasons I think you would understand. Just as I have not asked the corps person I sat next to all the time at Emporia (who might have some information) for the same reasons.
In the first post on this thread, Linda expressed her doubts. As far as I know, she did not express them publically until after, as she posts, she had them resolved only because she saw testimonies from two people and knew the people to whom it happened.Maybe that is my mistake...asking questions before they are answered. Don't worry; I am not asking you personally for anything, and if you don't believe that, rest assured that I will soon drop the subject entirely.
Thanks rascal. And in case you are wondering...maybe not...that last part about soon dropping the subject entirely had nothing to do with your post, other than your post moved me to mention what I had already decided. Efforts producing little results prolonged indefinitely are like, well.....
Lifted, generally these stories come out in the course of a thread or several. Being involved with the site you get bits and pieces of a person's eperiences as different threads and conversations bring out certain emotions, memories and experiences. It's not a "My Story" kind of thing although, there are some people who have posted their story in the "My Story" section of the site.
John Juedes has several accounts posted on his site and, I think, Pat Roberge has some on his site as well.
I suppose you could use the search function to try to find some of them. I'd post links, but I don't have them.
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Back again to the original post...Linda, you mentioned only two people whom you knew...at least one of whom you knew only years ago...as reasons that changed your mind. I am curious; did not the well known (or so I thought) anonymous "Marsha" account influence your thinking?
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Thanks for your sharing. It was hard for me to accept the information that I heard here and on Waydale. I met with someone who was there and had first hand knowledge. This person was able to confirm these seemingly wild accusations. It was a ruuuuuuude awakening. I fell into depression and felt guilty for being part of a group that could do such things. It took me about two years just to start to see a little light.
I'm fine now and am still thankful for all the good that I learned and I feel that this site may help many people get out of a still very troubled situation. I'm very thankful for EXIE and the other brave souls who shared their stories. We still have a lot of work to do and people to rescue.
Thanks,
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Serious question; where have these stories been shared, if they have been shared publically?
By serious, I mean I am asking the question with desire to know, not expressing doubt that the stories are there, as may be assumed by some.
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This is a forum for discussing our twi experiences.....Not a place to try to convince you personally lifted, or anybody else of our veracity.....and I certainly don`t care enough whether or not you believe me to actually use my name..... or be willing to give details and identities that are not mine in order to make my experiences appear to be more acceptable to you.
Geeeze, It is hard enough to relate some of this stuff without being hounded to give someone the salacious titilating little details....in order to satisfy their curiosity....
The information is there....whether or not you believe it is your choice...
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Rascal, I am not asking you for anything personally, and especially not asking for anything that was mentioned privately. My question was for anyone who can answer. I refer only to anything that was posted publically, as it seems to be implied by gladtobeout. If someone tells me reliably I consider you among others reliable) that there is nothing posted publically, I will not bring up the subject again.
Perhaps you DO believe that my only purpose in asking is to cast doubt, in which case, so be it.
Several years ago, in the old Waydale days, I made some very fruitful queries on the same subject (sexual abuse in TWI) with a couple of posters and got some eye opening first hand testimony. I did not and do not doubt their testimonies. In those cases, VPW was not involved.
There is one long time ago poster who is still around from whom I once heard something even closer to the subject. But i have never inquired further for reasons I think you would understand. Just as I have not asked the corps person I sat next to all the time at Emporia (who might have some information) for the same reasons.
In the first post on this thread, Linda expressed her doubts. As far as I know, she did not express them publically until after, as she posts, she had them resolved only because she saw testimonies from two people and knew the people to whom it happened.Maybe that is my mistake...asking questions before they are answered. Don't worry; I am not asking you personally for anything, and if you don't believe that, rest assured that I will soon drop the subject entirely.
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Sorry if I over reacted, lifted .... sometimes I feel like I am being bullied.
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Thanks rascal. And in case you are wondering...maybe not...that last part about soon dropping the subject entirely had nothing to do with your post, other than your post moved me to mention what I had already decided. Efforts producing little results prolonged indefinitely are like, well.....
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Lifted, generally these stories come out in the course of a thread or several. Being involved with the site you get bits and pieces of a person's eperiences as different threads and conversations bring out certain emotions, memories and experiences. It's not a "My Story" kind of thing although, there are some people who have posted their story in the "My Story" section of the site.
John Juedes has several accounts posted on his site and, I think, Pat Roberge has some on his site as well.
I suppose you could use the search function to try to find some of them. I'd post links, but I don't have them.
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