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Taxidev last won the day on April 23

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  1. Revival and Restoration

    I appreciate your concern, Grace. But as I told Rocky, I am not sold out to anyone, and I have none of them on a pedestal. God is Who I seek after, His Word is what I have held high, and I will happily walk away from anyone, as I have already done, who demonstrates evil. For now I listen to their teachings which, so far, is based on the Word. There has been no manipulation and no subtle messages, both so prevalent in TWI fellowships. FWI - it took me 18 months to decide to leave TWI completely, which I started considering a good 7 months before being introduced to R&R. They were just one contributing factor to my decision, as well as GSC, Bullinger, a couple of my friends on FB that were in TWI and had already left on their own, Ernest Martin, Joel Osteen, Ravi Zacharias, and a few local friends who had been involved with TWI also. I'm not sold out to any of them either. But I do enjoy reading/listening to what they have to say, and I am thankful for all of them for what they have all shared so willingly.
  2. Revival and Restoration

    Yes I have, and that is definitely it. I want to so much that I am not passing judgement on them, until they show they are deserving of it now. None whatsoever. While I understand statistics very well, I also understand that there are the outliers that may or may not be included in those statistics. Yes, I would like to see them be those outliers. Time will tell, and I will allow them that time.
  3. Revival and Restoration

    Not at all, but thanks for your concern.
  4. Revival and Restoration

    That's a very good question. And raises a disheartening answer. From what I understand, they are doing outreach, much like TWI promotes, and inviting people to their own local fellowship. Hmmm..... With God all things are possible. But I can only assume they are being right with God - and we all know what happens when one assumes. It does tend to do that, when people ignore what caused it in the first place. I am hopeful that they won't do that, not for me, but for themselves and new people they meet. As I have shared elsewhere, I'm not sold out to them, I have none of them on a pedestal, but I am willing to give them a chance to show they have changed. But, like I have also shared before, they never did me wrong, so it's much easier for me to wait patiently.
  5. Revival and Restoration

    By that thinking I should still be out stealing bikes and selling drugs. How incredibly closed-minded and critical! Have you even taken a look at what they are doing and how they are doing it? They do teachings on Sunday nights, and they post those teachings on their web site. Those that formed the group are scattered around the country. They keep in touch by an app. I know very well that many here have had some horrible experiences at the hands of some of them, but do you really insist that they just can't change? I changed. I'm one of the most honest people in my state. But would you condemn me to be a life-long drug dealer?
  6. While there is nothing that can take us from salvation, we can take ourselves from salvation by our own attitude of heart. It isn't mistakes we make, but a change of attitude, in effect a turning away from God, even though we've been born again. I found the same concept in Romans: Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. It's a topic I'm still working on, but I'm now pretty much convinced that we can mess it up for ourselves.
  7. I started reading it, but it is so full of rhetoric that it is not easy to get through. I know the gist already, and I agree with his findings, but my own research is just a few pages and without the fluff. It could take weeks before I get completely through his.
  8. Did vpw cite his sources, or did he plagiarize?

    Your description of VPW's approach to compiling information reminds me of my former step-father. Every Sunday morning he would grab the paper before any of us had a chance, and he would hide in his bedroom with it. One particular morning he came out of the room with a HUGE, insightful announcement about washing your face. "Do it twice and your face will SHINE!!!" he declared. Later that evening, I finally had my chance at the paper (I was the youngest there) and happened to read the article about the face washing. I just shook my head, thinking what a schmuck my step-dad was. I lost all respect for him at that moment, realizing he was a fraud. I now feel the same about VPW, and am surprised that there are so many "old-timers" that are still dedicated to him. I just recently came across a study by Bullinger on Job, from victim to victor. It is the entirety of what is covered in the FNC from TWI, and then some.
  9. Revival and Restoration

    I never heard about this until fairly recently. What a s#@tshow!
  10. Why I left an Evangelical Cult -- Ted Talk

    Well, in just two pages of posts, I have watched the bodies pile up around me, and there seems to be more waiting in the wings. It pains me to think about all this having gone on in the name of Christian love. I'm just glad I was nowhere near it. I'm sure you met some wonderful people along the way, but obviously so many evil people also. I can only say I've met a few that were off the wall, but many wonderful ones. What an education in history this has been for me. Like reading the true accounts of slavery, and the true accounts of Columbus in the Caribbean. The only reason to learn about history is to avoid repeating the bad parts. It seems to me that I have nothing more to contribute to this thread, but I will gladly continue to read what you all post, even if I'm not so glad about what I'm reading. I won't be commenting, but I might ask questions.
  11. Revival and Restoration

    I appreciate the concern, from all who have that concern for me. No, I am not so young, I just was never as heavily involved as many of you were. Since I was 22 years old, I have been committed to understanding and living God's Word. I try to learn from many sources, and always have. What I liked most about TWI was the teachings from my fellowship coordinators and others in my local fellowship. Yes, I took all the classes, multiple times, and I picked up on the Way slant in some of the segments. At one point the bloated egotism of LCM spewed right out from the screen, and I was just flabbergasted. It wasn't long after that when he "stepped down" for his sexual antics. In 2004 I did the Way Disciple program, which I found to be not such a great time. Over the last 10 years my connection to TWI has gradually weakened until, about 4 years ago, I wouldn't even invite anyone to my fellowship. Three years ago I was becoming really disappointed with the STS from Ohio, and wouldn't go to the hookups anymore. Right around the time R&R was setting up their facebook activity, I was already considering no longer attending TWI fellowship. I was looking elsewhere for biblical teachings with some meat to them. Last month I ended my association, weak as it was, with TWI. Through this whole thing, I have been committed to no individual, nor to the leadership. I have asked many questions that went inadequately answered and, just when I was considering sending my question to the BOD, I was introduced to R&R. It was then that I realized the futility of sending in my concerns and questions. My friend here, during the building of momentum of R&R, did connect with them, but his view of many things they had brought up was substantially different. He and I had many in depth discussions of very specific topics in the Word, and I consider his view of the ekklesia to be considerably more advanced than what the R&R group has discussed publicly. I have always maintained an arms length approach to religious organizations, but I have enjoyed some great times with some wonderful individuals.
  12. Revival and Restoration

    The people I'm with locally aren't the originators of R&R. They homeowner is former way corps, but only having been a branch coordinator. And he is the most loving and loved branch coordinator I've ever met, aside from one other. You have the wrong impression of what I wrote. I was referring to my belief, when you said "And, if you believe that, I’ve got a White House to sell ya!" They aren't trying to convince me of anything, I can see what is happening. You, however, cannot, and have jumped to conclusions regarding my local group. The group I'm with have no criminal behavior to repent of, unless you consider receiving the tithes to be criminal. I said I can't speak for what is happening with the original group, I can only speak for the local group I am with. And they are wonderful. They have been wonderful for as long as I've known them, which is since 2010. They have never been on staff, and have been branch coordinators since their first assignment. You may have reason to criticize the originators of R&R, but you are way off base criticizing these people.
  13. Revival and Restoration

    You don't know these people. You don't see what happens when we are together. I'm telling you what has been happening, and you talk about believing? Belief has nothing to do with it - it is evidenced. You may know those R&R originators better than I, but you don't know anything about this local group.
  14. Today I received the complete document from Dan Gallagher. I haven't read it yet, nor even opened the file. But I am looking forward to it.
  15. Why I left an Evangelical Cult -- Ted Talk

    That's a pretty hateful statement, and really presumptuous. I suppose you know what's on their hearts and in their minds? I understand you have an ax to grind, but don't cut yourself up with it. Spewing venom is never a good thing.