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Taxidev last won the day on March 13

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  1. It's the words

    chockfull, This is an insightful question, and I believe at the root of the issues brought up by the R&R folks. RFR so refuses to be meek to even consider someone else might be right and she is wrong, that it has caused tremendous schism within the ranks. Her reaction? Discard them, and anyone else who agrees with them. Absolutely. I was just recently having a discussion about this with a former wayer, and I brought up the point that it isn't us VS them, it is us AND them. As demonstrated in the bible, the body of Christ was all over the known world, and no one was making demands of them, trying to control everything they did. Knowledgeable believers were just going out and teaching them the Truth! And when Paul noticed a discrepancy, he went back to Jerusalem and had a big meeting with them to resolve it. All those in Jerusalem gladly looked at scripture, gladly shared perspectives, gladly listened to each other, and gladly found the answer together. That is the household working together, to do what the true head, Jesus Christ, wants. Not some fake head with a title.
  2. What does Jesus Christ have in common with the sun?

    We are saying the same thing.
  3. What does Jesus Christ have in common with the sun?

    That definition sure sounds current to me, especially after mentioning the 1990s and 2000s. Certainly not biblical times. So what is your interpretation of it? Here's an example of scientific discovery that lines up beautifully with the bible regarding the birth of Christ. And this is definitely NOT from TWI. http://www.askelm.com/star/index.asp What they discovered was something that already existed.
  4. Concerning the Bible...

    Thanks. I will look at this some more and then come back to this thread.
  5. Concerning the Bible...

    Considering the new testament hadn't been written yet, I would say it was extremely useful, especially once he understood the truth about Jesus Christ. Exactly. I learned that God is the author, and there were many writers, implying that He determined what would be written. But the section in 1 Cor 7 where Paul talks about not being of commandment indicates to me that God wasn't telling him what should be written, in whatever manner that may be. I only used "dictate" to differentiate that from inspiration, which is more like, "Hey, you should write about love". Since Paul knows about love, that inspired suggestion would most probably be sufficient. I wasn't thinking this, Paul said it. 1Co 7:6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. Am I looking at this slanted?
  6. What does Jesus Christ have in common with the sun?

    Yes, this is the definition I was utilizing. And the insight they gained was to grasp a scientific concepts that already exists but they were unaware of until that moment. Yes, these are sciences. And, from what I have seen, also fit my description of science. Anthropology - not that I follow this science as closely as others, but so far I have not seen or heard anything that contradicts anything in the bible. It may contradict what some "Christians" say, but so does the bible. Archaeology - this one has actually proved many things in the bible, like findings of buildings talked about in the bible, artifacts that support the lifestyle in biblical times. Sociology - I used to be extremely interest in psychology, which I found to be a bit bizarre, but never delved into this one, so my understanding of it is infinitesimal. But - and please correct me if I'm mistaken - this is something than can only take place currently to have any accuracy. The past can only be speculated on, not actually studied, as far as human interaction goes. We do have some records in the bible that demonstrate mob mentality, both in the old and new testaments, but I wouldn't call that an actual study.
  7. Concerning the Bible...

    I completely agree. Maybe I should elaborate a bit on my point about Paul. I believe that Paul did receive revelation, on more than one occasion. I also believe he had the most complete and thorough understanding of the Torah, except the red thread of Christ. Once he learned that missing piece, he was unstoppable. It turned his life around. I'm sure, at first, it was devastating to him to learn how off he had been in his actions, but he corrected that. However, as for the letters he wrote, some, obviously, in response to reports of serious error, I am now leaning toward the point DWBH made - the letters were inspired to be written, not dictated to Paul. That certainly doesn't mean he was leaning unto his own understanding. On the contrary, he was leaning unto the Word he so clearly knew, understood, and lived. There is, at one point in one of his letters beginning in 1 Cor 7:6, a section where he specifically states that he is giving his opinion rather than explaining a commandment of God. In other words, what he was saying absolutely was not based on the Word, but based on his own personal insight into the matter. Surely, that was NOT dictated to Paul, or it couldn't have been his own opinion. This actually lends credence to the "inspired vs dictated" viewpoint.
  8. Concerning the Bible...

    T, this is exactly what happens today. It's all becoming so robotic. I wonder where is the love of God for the people? They're all just so concerned with whether they are doing what HQ wants them to do. Like the communion ritual. This year I just couldn't sit through that incredibly "solemn" ritual yet again - hold the bread in the right hand, wait until everyone has it, then when we say "take, eat" eat the bread. Then go home and reflect - there won't be refreshments. As I recall, when Jesus was talking about this, they were all eating, actively. And he said nothing about any of this nonsense! At this point, if my fellowship coordinator didn't do such great teachings, I would probably be gone by now. But she does a great job, and everything, so far, lines up with the Word.
  9. What does Jesus Christ have in common with the sun?

    The way I see true science is that it merely explains what already is. It doesn't discover anything, because it's already in front of us. And it doesn't define anything new, because it is God that creates. A scientist may discover something he didn't know, but the facts have always been there, because God already put them there. So it is axiomatic that true science will always agree with scripture, because God created it all. He set the physical and chemical laws in place. If it doesn't agree with scripture, then the test and analysis is corrupted in some human way. This is done frequently with statistics, to be able to support one's argument. But that is not true science, that is manipulated science. So, how's your awe now?
  10. Concerning the Bible...

    I think it's even worse now. At least in the past, each fellowship could teach on things that were more relevant to the people in that fellowship. But now, HQ dictates what is to be taught throughout the entire ministry. Like what I need to hear today is the same as some woman in Idaho, or some kid in Mississippi, or a family in France. Just so bizarre.
  11. Concerning the Bible...

    DWBH, This is so insightful! After reading this I went to my bible and looked at the Greek word that was translated "given by inspiration of God" in 2 Tim 3:16. Thayer, who I have more confidence in than Strong, defines it as inspired of God. I never really thought deeply on this before, but I can clearly see that this, in no way, equates to "dictated by God". This puts a radically different slant on the content and structure of the bible. That said, I have always believed, and still do in spite of this epiphany, that the bible is the will of God. But now, it seems plausible to me that the letters from Paul could be much more inspired by God to write them, but relying on his own understanding of the Word - which he was an expert on from his training - and the truth of Christ. This could easily extend to the old testament in areas other than where is states clearly, "God said" or "thus saith the Lord". The book of Proverbs is by Solomon, and doesn't say anything about "thus saith the Lord" in it. So this entire book can, clearly, just be Solomon's own understanding of life, not any specific revelation from God. Now I've got a lot of work to do. I don't know if I should thank you or be miffed. LOL!
  12. The Trinity

    Here is why it matters whether or not there is a trinity: 2Ti 2:15 Give diligence to present thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, handling aright the word of truth. ASV The details actually matter. And since the trinity wasn't introduced until the council of Nicaea, it is obviously an addition to scripture and therefore invalid. The Word has so many verses that declared Jesus Christ as the son of God, not part of God. But here is one that is quite definitive: Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. KJV That underlined word, "man", properly translated from the Greek, means human. God is not human. In all of Paul's letters, he never once declares, nor implies, that Jesus is part of a trinity. If you can find him doing that, I will be quite surprised.
  13. Exit Stage Left

    Fired for the letter put together on another thread here by Howard Allen? Yes, he was fired, but says he doesn't know why. Here is a direct quote from his letter to believers, dated March 30, 1988: "On April 1, 1987, I was fired by the Board of Trustees from my position as Limb Coordinator of The Way of Washington, D.C. Why? That's a good question, and one I asked Howard Allen that day. He refused to give me a reason."
  14. It's the words

    TWI hasn't changed since the founder. The new leader just keeps up the status quo and then some. It's a shame - I know several people still heavily involved and completely sold out to them, but they are such good people. Just naive, to the point that they aren't even willing to consider that they are in the wrong place. Fortunately, I am not sold out to any organization and, while I still attend fellowship sometimes, I typically don't participate in their activities, unless it sounds really interesting. I guess I wasn't actually following anyone there, I was just learning, and have learned enough to know my relationship is with God, not a particular minister or teacher. That's why I can listen to teachings at a Way fellowship, or by Joel Osteen on TV, or by a R&R person on the web, or from my friend here in the area. I have had issues with some fellowship and branch coordinators, but when they taught the truth I was still able to listen and look at the verses to see if it lined up with the Word. If we don't give importance to who is talking, but only to what they are saying, then we will be able to discern truth from error. But to automatically assume someone is right or wrong based solely on who they are is an error in judgement bordering on foolishness.
  15. Billy Graham

    Harry Truman was astute. It says in the bible to be wary of fair speeches. Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. I was wary of Graham for quite a while, intensified when, after the world trade center slaughter, he was asked why this would happen, and he said he didn't know. Not a response I would have expected from a man of God. A bit off topic, but I found it so interesting that the attack occurred on September 11. We do all know what that is, yes?