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  1. Taxidev

    Dianne Maxson

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  2. I don't know what bible they are using to justify this, but mine says this: "Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." Nowhere in that verse does it say "unless they aren't part of the way ministry". They have broken apart a "one flesh" union where they had no authority to do that. If that's not evil I don't know what is.
  3. I'm inclined to agree, and even take it a bit further, in that she didn't just listen to that other source, but grabbed it by the baton and ran with it, in direct opposition to what God had instructed, and stated it pretty clearly, I'd say. So, yes, her problem was that she considered it, but that first sin was in going directly against God's instructions.
  4. Wow, Mark, this is such a subtle deception that I succumbed to. I didn't even ponder it until this very moment. Nowhere in the bible does it say we take his place - I just checked - but I went along with this because of this verse: Co 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. What a stretch from praying on behalf of Christ to taking his place! None of us could do that, even if we are doing those greater works than he did. The most we can be is part of the body. WOW!!! Thank you so, so much.
  5. Taxidev

    When is it rude?

    These examples are exactly what wordwolf described as not contributing. They are lacking the supporting argument that you are pretty well known for, I believe as T-Bone indicated. So, to repeat the initial point over and over doesn't necessarily mean the supporting argument will be the same. That will depend on the specific topic. I have to admit, it was initially difficult for me to read your unbeliever comments, because I haven't had biblical discussions with unbelievers in over 40 years. But eventually I found it refreshing. Not that I started agreeing with you, but I had to acknowledge your perspective as viable, at least to a degree. And I don't remember seeing such curt answers. So, yes, I completely agree with T-Bone, and partially agree with wordwolf. So, please, disagree, but share the supporting arguments along the way.
  6. Taxidev

    The Latest From JAL

    His words absolutely apply to us, except where he was confronting the Israelis about keeping the law. Probably the most relevant thing he said that completely applies to us, was when he boiled down the law to two commandments - love God above all else, and love our neighbor like ourselves. Following those two principles is what the love of Christ is all about, what walking in love is all about. By doing those two things, we fulfill the law in everything we do without concerning ourselves with the letter of the law. The main difference for us is that we are already forgiven for when we fall short, whereas Israel had to keep having those yearly sacrifices. In almost everything Jesus taught, he was showing the underlying meaning of all those laws and holy days. That underlying meaning is what is completely relevant to us today. So, Twinky, good question and good call!
  7. Taxidev

    The Latest From JAL

    I received this same email from John. When I read it I almost choked - it was as if I was reading a letter from VPW himself. It's one thing to splinter off of a ministry, but why teach exactly the same things? Why not improve on it by doing some actual research utilizing independent resources, anything OTHER than what TWI used?
  8. I've had quite a bit of interactions with Jehovahs, and yes, they are most definitely Christians. However, it also is a cult, much like TWI. The major flaw with them is that they believe the return has already happened, and that only 144,000 are saved, the rest of us must go through the tribulation. Apparently, they didn't read the next 3 or 4 verses in Revelation where it talks about the believers that are as the sands in multitude. Oh, well. My personal experience with some members has only been positive, some of the most loving Christians I've met - mind you, I'm only comparing with RC and TWI - and they have all had great integrity. I have only enjoyed speaking with them. So it doesn't surprise me what they did for you.
  9. Taxidev

    Can salvation be lost?

    First, you are only paraphrasing half of the verse in Romans: Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. So, if one no longer accepts Jesus as Lord, why would that person continue to have salvation? Plus, it seems you are supposing someone can't have a change of belief. I find that to be starkly untrue. When a person takes in an abundance of worldly (sorry for the TWI term, but it fits) information, culminating in a complete adoption of that into their belief system, then the truth of God and Jesus are pushed aside in PREFERENCE of the world. Colossians has something to say about that: Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: So, if one rejects Christ, how can they be complete? Yes, I completely agree with the statement you reference. "Apparently you're so convinced that you're right, you don't want to see or hear anything else." From TLC page 10. The question you posed, highlighted in blue, bolded and underlined, is what I am referencing in my statement, highlighted in red, bolded and underlined. I am describing your supposition, not mine. You little analogy with the bird color is out in left field. I am NOT the one supposing one can't change their belief, by that question you ask it is YOU who is supposing that.
  10. Taxidev

    Can salvation be lost?

    Seriously? You won't even acknowledge that your statement is incorrect? Wow.
  11. Taxidev

    Can salvation be lost?

    Yes, this is your own supposition. Not mine.
  12. Taxidev

    Can salvation be lost?

    That was your supposition, not mine.
  13. Taxidev

    Can salvation be lost?

    That doesn't directly address and answer the question. You're merely skating around it with a different question. Your question: Once you honestly believe in your heart that God raised Jesus Christ from the dead, how can anyone honestly "undo" that belief that is in their heart? I believe it's possible. Plus, the entire verse is: Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. I was not skirting anything, I was emphasizing that it's a two-fold belief, and I also believe going against either of them will cause problems. I restricted a change to one specific issue. You redirected it with a supposition and are now refuting your own supposition. I don't see how you see that, but, okay. So, which supposition is that?
  14. Taxidev

    Can salvation be lost?

    I suppose you infer "in your heart" to be more emphatic than "in your mind". I can see where this could be the case, as in I am considering in my mind something that in my heart, which is what I am currently completely convinced of, is the opposite. Until what my mind is considering becomes my new full belief, then it is merely in my mind. True? If so, then I agree.
  15. Taxidev

    Can salvation be lost?

    First, you are only paraphrasing half of the verse in Romans: Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. So, if one no longer accepts Jesus as Lord, why would that person continue to have salvation? Plus, it seems you are supposing someone can't have a change of belief. I find that to be starkly untrue. When a person takes in an abundance of worldly (sorry for the TWI term, but it fits) information, culminating in a complete adoption of that into their belief system, then the truth of God and Jesus are pushed aside in PREFERENCE of the world. Colossians has something to say about that: Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: So, if one rejects Christ, how can they be complete? Yes, I completely agree with the statement you reference.
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