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The Torah to Revelation: The Mystery: The Rapture
revvel replied to revvel's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
THE BURIAL CEREMONY FOR “Pre-trib” Alongside “Signless” CHRIST’S REVELATION TO JOHN, PAUL & PETER THE DAY OF THE LORD: CHRIST’S REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY: THE RAPTURE/Feast of Trumpets With the onset of the day of the Lord, the mystery once hidden in the prophets’ prophecies shall come to pass: the Salvation/Rapture of Christ’s Church/Kingdom—which Christ fully revealed to John, Paul & Peter. The next holy day to be fulfilled on God’s calendar is the Feast of Trumpets—when the Lord God sounds “the last trumpet” (1 Cor. 15:51-55; 1 Thess. 4:13-17)—heralding the commencement of the day of the Lord: The Sixth Seal (Rev. 6:12-17), with Christ’s appearance in the sky (Rev. 6:16) to rapture His Church/Kingdom to His throne (Rev. 7:9-17)—saving His Church/Kingdom from wrath. THE RAPTURE is “Pre-wrath”—not “pre-trib-ulation” Christ’s Church is not raptured before the great tribulation starts, but rather, it is raptured out of the midst of “great tribulation” (Rev. 7:14). Paul and John are the two witnesses who agree on this: Future salvation/the Rapture precedes wrath—not great tribulation. THE SIXTH SEAL: THE DAY OF THE LORD: Rev. 6:12-17 “I watched as He opened the sixth seal. And suddenly there was a great earthquake. The sun became black, like sackcloth made from goat hair, and the moon became like blood. And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its unripe figs when it is shaken by a strong wind. Then the heavens receded like a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.” Gentiles/Nations: React “Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the rich men and the commanding officers and the strong and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains [The Sixth Seal: The Day of the Lord: Mystery/Isaiah 2:12; 19-21].” Mystery Revealed: Christ’s Appearance in the Sky (Rev. 1:7; 6:16; 1 Thess. 4:13-17) at the onset of the day of the Lord. Nations/Gentiles: React to His Appearance in the Sky: They said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, Announcement of The Great Day of Wrath: Zephaniah. 1:14, 15 “for the great day of His wrath has come. Who is able to withstand it?” REVELATION CHAPTER 7 JEWS/144,000 from the 12 Tribes: Sealed on Earth: Rev. 7:1-8. THE DAY OF THE LORD: RAPTURED CHURCH in HEAVEN: Revelation 7:9-17 Then I looked. And there was a great multitude which no one could count, from all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands. They cried out with a loud voice: “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures and fell on their faces before the throne and worshipped God, saying: “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be to our God forever and ever! Amen.” Then one of the elders asked me, “Who are these clothed in white robes, and where did they come from [a mystery]?” I said to him, “Sir, you know.” He said to me, “These are those who came out of great tribulation and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore, they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. ‘They shall neither hunger any more, nor shall they thirst any more; the sun shall not strike them,’ [Mystery for the Church/ “hope of glory” revealed: Isa. 49:10] nor any scorching heat; for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and ‘He will lead them to springs of living water.’ [Mystery for the Church/“hope of glory” revealed: Isa. 49:10] ‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’ [Mystery for the Church/“hope of glory” revealed: Isa. 25:8]” THE GREAT TRIBULATION: Revelation 7:13, 14 “Then one of the elders asked me, “Who are these clothed in white robes, and where did they come from?” I said to him, “Sir, you know.” He said to me, “These are those who came out of great tribulation and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” “Out of” is the Greek word, Ek, which “denotes motion from the interior”: “out of, from among.” The origin of the motion (of a line) is the center of the circle, with the line moving out from the center of the circle past the circumference. (See Bullinger’s Bible, Appendix 104, #7.) Ek denotes motion out from the center. And in this case, the motion involves the Church off the Earth, via the Rapture, out from the great tribulation, to His Throne. CHRIST’S REVELATION TO PAUL & JOHN: 2 WITNESSES: Saved from Wrath Paul 1 Thess. 1:10: And to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead—Jesus, who delivered us from the wrath [not great tribulation] to come. 1 Thess. 5:9: For God has not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ. Rom. 5:8, 9: But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. How much more then, being now justified by His blood, shall we be saved from wrath [not great tribulation] through Him. John Wrath Commences: Rev. 8:7 “The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mixed with blood, and they were thrown upon the earth. A third of the trees and all the green grass were burned up.” Saved from Wrath on Earth: Church is already before His Throne (Rev. 7:9-17). “Pre-trib” is Deception. No scriptural justification whatsoever. CHRIST’S REVELATION TO JOHN, PAUL & PETER: THE MYSTERY Christ’s revelation of the mystery to John is in complete agreement with His revelation to Paul—which is all founded upon Christ’s revelation to Peter on Pentecost: The Mystery for the Church revealed on the first day of the Church: “Christ in you, the hope of glory”—Acts 2:16-21. The Day of the Lord: Peter/Joel: Acts 2:20, 21/Joel 2:31, 32a; 1 Peter 1:3-5 The Day of the Lord: Paul/Joel, Isaiah & Hosea: 1 Thess. 4:13-18; 5:1-10; 1 Cor. 1:4-8; 15:51-55/Isaiah 25:8 & Hosea 13:14; Rom. 10:13/Joel 2:32a; Phil. 3:20, 21 The Day of the Lord: John/Isaiah: Rev. 1:7; 6:12-17; 7:9-17/Isaiah 49:10 & 25:8; 1 John 3:1-3 THE BURIAL OF "Pre-trib" alongside “Signless” “Signless” is Deception. No scriptural justification whatsoever. The symbol of a thief has no relevance to “signless,” but rather, this symbol projects an illustration of opposites: the unsuspecting versus the opposite, sons of light (Church: 1 Thess. 5:1-10)/wise virgins who watched (Israel: Matt. 25:1-13). And the Rapture and Christ’s second coming to Israel unfold alongside dramatic divine signs. If Christ didn’t use the symbol of a “thief” to mean “signless” regarding His second coming to Israel (Rev. 16:15, 16), then what right does anyone in His Church have to claim the symbol of a “thief” means “signless”? Zero. MAN'S IMAGINATION To associate “pre-trib” with the end-times/the Rapture, and to equate “thief” with “signless” is precisely what Peter (2 Peter 1:20, 21) warned against: the human mind projecting its imagination onto the Scriptures—creating a twisted interpretation that has no relevance to divine truth presented in the passages/the mystery. With the last nail in the “pre-trib” tragedy coffin, we bury it alongside “signless.” THE HEADSTONE: Gather ‘round… “Here lies Pre-trib & Signless: Fabricated Terms that have deceived so many for so long” I offer a toast: “To the burial of man’s deceptive imagination: the twin coffins of “pre-trib” & “signless”—now smothered in dirt. And we celebrate the freedom to believe the revelation of the mystery that Christ revealed to Peter, Paul, and John. Amen.” This burial ceremony marks the end of this thread. If you’d like answers to unanswered questions presented here/more information on the mystery of God, I invite you to read my free book, The Mystery of God, on my website. Closing Observations The Law of Moses, the Book of Revelation, and the revelation of the mystery form a matrix of truth that cannot be broken. The common thread of the mystery extends from the Law to Revelation—and pulls together the entire Bible. There is nowhere to turn—in the Bible—to defend the “pre-trib” tragedy or the “signless” nonsense, and there is nowhere to turn to refute the unifying voice of the mystery: Established by God, revealed by Christ. I end with a prophecy of the mystery, revealed: “For it is written: ‘As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God.’ So then each of us shall give an account of himself to God.” Let your account be a good one. Peace. revvel - Today
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songs remembered from just one line
GeorgeStGeorge replied to bulwinkl's topic in Movies, Music, Books, Art
It was a big hit for Herman's Hermits, though it was first performed by the Rays. George -
Next one. This movie was not filmed by Alfred Hitchcock. Why might I lead off with that? Well, the rest of the clues..... This movie included a scene that took place at an important spot- the exact same spot- as a scene in "Vertigo." And ANOTHER scene was a reenactment of a scene in "Vertigo" but not in the same spot-the exact set was a recreation but the alleged location was along the shore.) It also had a scene that appeared to be a frame-by-frame reenactment of a VERY famous Hitchcock scene (so famous I am not naming the scene.) We had an innocent man framed for a murder. The director appeared in the movie. The name "North By Northwest" appeared in the movie's dialogue. This was NOT an Alfred Hitchcock movie. Which movie was this?
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Jean Speegle Howard Rance Howard Bryce Dallas Howard Clint Howard Cheryl Howard Roger Corman Max Grodénchik
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"STELLA!!!!! STELLA!!!!
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songs remembered from just one line
Human without the bean replied to bulwinkl's topic in Movies, Music, Books, Art
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Easy Movie Quotes
Human without the bean replied to GeorgeStGeorge's topic in Movies, Music, Books, Art
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Article on Dr. Strauss (abuse of athletes) HERE
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It was the Goonies.
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Name that TV Show [EZ quotes only]
GeorgeStGeorge replied to Raf's topic in Movies, Music, Books, Art
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Police Squad! In Color! Your turn.
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In any event, if I vanish, just take over.
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But don't let it happen too often. Just kidding. Of course, when we had over a dozen players, it took a lot of the pressure off. George
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Name that TV Show [EZ quotes only]
GeorgeStGeorge replied to Raf's topic in Movies, Music, Books, Art
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songs remembered from just one line
GeorgeStGeorge replied to bulwinkl's topic in Movies, Music, Books, Art
"Took a walk and passed your house, late last night. Saw the shades were pulled and drawn way down tight." George -
A classic. Sorry I didn't remember it. George
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The Torah to Revelation: The Mystery: The Rapture
revvel replied to revvel's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
Preparation for the Burial of “Pre-trib”: Decorating the “Pre-trib” Gravesite with Christ’s Gospel Precedent and the Revelation of the Mystery for the Church, “Christ in you, the Hope of Glory” Christ’s Gospel Precedent: Quoting the Prophets’ Prophecies 1. Why did Christ quote Isaiah 61:1, 2a in Luke 4:18, 19? And why did Christ stop at 61:2a? Christ Himself answered this question: “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.” (Luke 4:21) By quoting Isaiah 61:1, 2a, Christ marked the present tense fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy in the context of New Testament revelation. Why did Christ stop at Isaiah 61:2a? Why didn’t Christ read Isaiah 61:2b? Isaiah 61:2b was not quoted because it didn’t apply to the present tense, but rather, future tense: “the day of vengeance.” 2.Why did Christ quote Daniel in Matthew 24:15? “So when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand).” Christ marked the future tense fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy in the context of New Testament revelation: the rise of the Antichrist prior to Christ’s descent to Israel like “lightning.” Christ’s Gospel Precedent: When a prophet’s prophecy is quoted, it pertains to the fulfillment of prophecy in the context of New Testament revelation—and can either be present tense or future tense. The context determines whether it’s present or future. 3.Is it possible Christ set a precedent during His ministry on Earth (quoting the prophets)—which He continued from the right hand of God when He gave revelation of the mystery to His apostles, directing them to quote the prophets’ prophecies? Yes. When Christ, by revelation, directed His apostles to quote the prophets’ prophecies, He followed His own precedent: When a prophet’s prophecy is quoted, it pertains to the fulfillment of prophecy in the context of New Testament revelation—and can either be present tense or future tense. The context determines whether it’s present or future. Christ’s Gospel Precedent & The Mystery The Mystery: 1 Corinthians 2:8,9 “We speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the ages for our glory. None of the rulers of this age knew it. For had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” Could the mystery have been revealed prior to the Crucifixion? No, of course not. After the Resurrection and Ascension Christ could reveal it—and Christ did so. Christ’s Gospel Precedent: Quoting the Prophets’ Prophecies & The Mystery/Acts to Revelation: The Church With Christ’s Gospel precedent, along with His revelation of the mystery, we are empowered by Christ to answer the following questions based on His authority. And with answers to the following questions, the following is revealed: The present and future tense fulfillment of prophecies pertaining to the mystery for Christ’s Church, “Christ in you [present tense], the hope of glory [future tense].” 4.Why did Paul quote Habakkuk 2:4 Romans 1:17? To mark the present tense fulfillment of Habakkuk’s prophecy in the context of Christ’s New Testament revelation—revealing the mystery for Christ’s Church once hidden in the Old Testament: “Christ in you [by faith/Rom. 10:8-10].” For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith. As it is written, “The just shall live by faith.” 5.Why did Peter and Paul both quote Joel 2:32a, in Acts 2:21 and Romans 10:13, respectively? To mark the future tense fulfillment of Joel’s prophecy in the context of Christ’s New Testament revelation—revealing the mystery for Christ’s Church once hidden in the Old Testament: “the hope of glory”/future “salvation,” to be fulfilled on the “day of the Lord.” Why didn’t Peter and Paul quote Joel 2:32b? It didn’t apply to the future tense mystery for the Church, but rather, the future tense mystery for the house of Jacob/Israel. 6.Why did Paul and John both quote Isaiah 25:8, in 1 Corinthians 15:54 and Revelation 7:17, respectively? To mark the future tense fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy in the context of Christ’s New Testament revelation—revealing the mystery for Christ’s Church once hidden in the Old Testament: “the hope of glory”/future “salvation” to be fulfilled on the “day of the Lord”: Joel 2:31, 32a; Acts 2:20, 21; Rom. 10:13; Rev. 6:12-17; Rev. 7:9-17 [raptured to His Throne] at the time of Christ’s revelation in the sky: Rev. 1:7; 6:16; 1 Thess. 4:13-17. 7. Why does the blood red moon “appear” in Acts 2:20 and why does the blood red moon again “appear” in Revelation 6:12: the Sixth Seal? Peter and John both marked the future tense fulfillment of Joel’s prophecy in the context of New Testament revelation—revealing the mystery for Christ’s Church once hidden in the Old Testament (Joel 2:31, 32a): “the hope of glory”/future “salvation,” to be fulfilled on the “day of the Lord” with the lunar signal of the blood red moon. (The dark moon is Israel’s lunar signal: Joel 3:15; Matt. 24:29—which is fulfilled when Christ descends like lightning to the Mount of Olives, fulfilling the mystery for the house of Jacob/Israel.) 8.Why did the apostles quote the prophets’ prophecies from Acts to Revelation? Christ, by revelation, directed His apostles to quote the prophets’ prophecies, and He followed His own Gospel precedent: Christ marked the fulfillment of prophecy—present tense and future tense. And simultaneously, Christ revealed the mystery for His Church and the house of Jacob/Israel once hidden in the Old Testament. Christ did so by the commandment of God: Rom. 16:25-27; Gal. 1:11, 12; 1 Peter 1:10-12; Rev. 10:7; 22:16. Next: The Burial of “Pre-trib” on Friday December 5, at approximately 4:30pm EST. Peace. revvel -
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It is not. Good, I thought this one might have been too easy.
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songs remembered from just one line
Human without the bean replied to bulwinkl's topic in Movies, Music, Books, Art
Those lyrics are familiar, somewhat. Maybe another verse would do it, George. Unless, of course, it has the title in it. -
~Lobo~ "Me and You and a Dog named Boo"
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Stripes Bill Murray Rushmore
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Kim Basinger Blind Date John Larroquette George
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I know the third one. I don't know if the rest of her family were in the movie, but it could be Spider-Man 3. George