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I have to speak up and before you barbecue me please hear me out.then you can add the appropriate seasonings. First I spoke with Rottie on a couple of things and she very kindly gave me permission to post this. I have been an class instructor for CF&S on a couple of occasions. I reread both the instructers guide and the full syllabus today much of it is a transcript of the segments. I have been out of the way for years now 14-15. I am not a Way supporter but in fairness I have to say The Way has enough things honestly wrong with it that we don't need to invent new ones. I take into account that for most of us it has been years since we took this class and our memories mine included are maybe not as clear on what was said as we think. That is why I reread the transcrips. There has been some comments on how the class was slanted but I would put before you that perhaps in anger to other things that have happened or for some other reason many feel that it is ok to just say anything and pass it off as truth. That is also slanting peoples opinions who read these posts and trust your words. It has been pointed out that this class was not much in substance I would agree even then much of the info was dated. So for most it was info they already new or could readily accesss. It was said the class was about sex. After a review I would not agree there is much about dating, relationships,The Virtuous Woman,Marriage and a fair amount of scripture. There are many down sides to the class many have been pointed out The Originial Sin Seg. The roll of men and Woman ,and ohers It was implicated that the class was slanted for men ,against Woman. Also that Dr. made a statement about woman's vagina's being ugly. I don't remember that nor have I seen that today. I'm again reading quotes from Dr. Wierwille from the class transcripts. "Helpmeet means companion, one who brings out the best in a man NOT a SLave,or a Dog. He does not take advantage of her raise hell with her." "Christ does not Lord it over the church if your man yells jump Baloney." "weaker Vessle means she is to be treated tenderly,lovingly,gracefully." "Both man and Woman are on a equal level with God." "Sex is not something that you just do: It is something that two people become." "Fantasies are a cop out make your wife your pin up girl." "Be forgiving there is no sound like the sound of silence,utter silence can be the loudest sound in the world when you are waiting for someone to break it." "Next to the Word of God the human body is the most beautiful thing."(note does not say male human body) I'm sorry I am not a better typest there are many more. But I don't see where you find any degrading ideas in those statements. They may or may not have lived those words in action and if not they should be held accountable but to make up untruths does not help the solution. I know that when I am dead I will have had some mistakes and faults, but also some good in my life I sure hope that people don't add to the list unjustly. I know that there are some edits and typos I'll fix them. One more thing for the record Trefor the quote was "a wife should be an angel in the kitchen and a devil in the bedroom"The context don't be a prude in the bedroom don't be afraid to be sexy. there is nothing wrong with it. This was in the section to woman there was one for men also. Thanks I smell something cooking ah oh it's me. Without Coffee I Would Have No Personality At All Drink Your Coffee Children In India Are Sleeping [This message was edited by WhiteDove on September 19, 2003 at 18:37.]

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They did not give out syllabus except for a scripture sheet and a handout on The Virtuous Woman. The Corps classes did have a syllabus about 40 pages and as Im looking the ever present Final exam. also a instructers guide. Without Coffee I Would Have No Personality At All Drink Your Coffee Children In India Are Sleeping

Rottie The CF&S class filmed in 1974 was a video version of the early live camps.The sessions are: 1. The way of a man with a maid,man wonderfully made ,attitudes toward sex 2. The threefold cord, The Virtuous Woman 3. I Corinthians 7:1..ff The original sin 4. Anticipation,Realization, Memory, New Morality, general anatomy and language barrier(Dr. covers slang terms for male & female parts and sex ect.) 5. Male & Female anatomy 6. Childbirth,lovemaking, birth control,masterbation 7. Art of dating responsibilities of Men & Woman , Question and answer session. Lots of good pictures of Tick the wonder dog. And a segment where Tick turned I mean did some tricks for us. Like fetch Howards hat My favorite CF&S song - Rise Up O Men Of God yes Zix I believe that was correct. Without Coffee I Would Have No Personality At All Drink Your Coffee Children In India Are Sleeping [This message was edited by WhiteDove on September 19, 2003 at 2:00.]

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Read through this thread again today. Someone mentioned the law of believing If my memory is correct that came from Dr. Norman Vincent Pele's work on positive thinking and Tremendous Jones also. He came to the way in the eary 70's to teach I may have that old teaching on reel would be worth a listen again in light of this thread. Also lest we forget Charles Welch and his contributions to PFAL. I was looking at a book we carry called Selected Writings one of a series of Bullingers works that was recently published by TRuth For Today because of a grant that was given them by a man who was so thrilled with their studies of Bullingers works. These books are a compulation from his newsletters and articles that were not in print. Of interest is one called the man of God a study on II Timothy 3:16 &17. I think I heard that somewhere before.(Session two P.F.A.L.) I talked to them at some length about these books and there will be 4 or 5 when done they thought. Without Coffee I Would Have No Personality At All Drink Your Coffee Children In India Are Sleeping

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