Jump to content
GreaseSpot Cafe

TheInvisibleDan

Members
 View Profile  See their activity

  • Posts

    2,223

  • Joined

  • Last visited

 Content Type 

Posts posted by TheInvisibleDan

    What's New at theway.com

    in About The Way

    Posted

    If, as the old saying goes,

    "It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings",

    they certainly appear to have outdone themselves with an entire herd of them.

    It's strange the way they hide their dowdy Casiotone keyboard players behind the shrubbery.

    And that guitar player must secretly yearn for an 80s band to unleash those generic licks.

    It's ok to need help

    in About The Way

    Posted

    quote:
    Originally posted by ex10:

    I've been talking to/working with lots of Senior Citizens lately, due to our new business venture.

    One thing that I've noticed is that many seniors don't like to admit that they need help with everyday activities.

    Ex-10th,

    dealing with my own parents in their 80's, I'm finding this to be the case as well - I tend to think it's more a generational thing, I guess.

    My mother is finally opening up to the fact that she needs more help and assistance in dealing with my father ( whose memory is going), and is finally (with the prodding of my brother and I) opening up to exploring what programs are available. I can see the burden being lifted off her, that she doesn't have to deal with this situation herself.

    My father, on the other hand - he's ....ed, as if expecting my mother to wait on him hand and foot for another 50 years. Sorry old man, but she deserves to truly retire and enjoy her remaining time on earth as well.

    Danny

    Leviathan

    in About The Way

    Posted

    quote:
    Originally posted by LornaDoone:

    Well if Leviathan is drinking up all the alcohol and will be fed to the elect, I'm all for it.

    IMO

    A "DragonBall" instead of a "Melon Ball".

    It should be quite a celebration.

    Danny

    Leviathan

    in About The Way

    Posted

    From "The Oxford Companion to the Bible" (edited by B. Metzger, M. Coogan, p.433-34, OUP, 1993), under the heading, "Leviathan":

    "A mythological sea monster who was one of the primeval adversaries of the storm god. In the Ugaritic texts, Baal defeats Lothan...described as a seven-headed serpent, apparently identified with Baal's adversary Prince Sea. In the Bible Leviathan is also identified with the Sea (Job 3.8) and has many heads ( Ps.74:14), and his defeat by God is a prelude to creation (Ps.74:15-17). According to apocalyptic literature, that battle will be rejoined in the end time when the evil Leviathan will be finally defeated (Isa.27:1; Rev.12:3; 17:1-14; 19:20; 21:1), and, according to later tradition, given along with Behemoth as food to the Elect (2 Esd.6:49-52)..."

    I'm sure you will discover much from any number of Bible dictionaries available.

    But darn if I understand where the alcoholic stuff came from. Sea = alcohol? Maybe someone was drunk when they came up with that one.

    Danny

    Fetus Protection vs. TWI's Exodus Belief

    in About The Way

    Posted

    quote:
    Originally posted by oldiesman:

    I tend to agree with Wierwille and think the Old Testament view is more reasonable.

    What do you think?

    I tend to agree more with Jesus in His sermon on the mount that the Old Testament "eye-for-an-eye" thing is totally whacked, and perhaps would not be appropriately used toward our modern debate on the complex topic of abortion.

    And is the creation of the old man in Genesis really appropriate for those of us in the era of the "new man" created by Jesus?

    It seems more and more obvious to me that the problem isn't or has never been so much with the fetus, as it is with adults who don't weigh and own up to the responsibilities and consequences of their own actions, though I do lean toward the opinion that abortion should remain available for rape victims and those whose pregnancies in their cases endanger their own lives.

    Danny

    Dawn of the Dead

    in Movies, Music, Books, Art

    Posted · Edited by TheInvisibleDan

    A decent "creature feature" flick for a Saturday night. The zombies are certainly more robust in this presentation than the shuffling, lumbering ones in the original 1978 version.

    I give it 3 stars.

    UPDATE: I just watched the original 70s version the other evening. It's more humorous and goofier than the remake, which I now see (after having seen this for the first time as well) as having mimicked the jittery MTV camera style of the recent English zombie flick, "28 Days".

    TWI's Take on The Passion of Christ

    in About The Way

    Posted · Edited by Guest

    quote:
    Originally posted by Lightside:

    All just my opinion.

    Near the end of VPW's life, it seems that he desired for the followers of the way to see more and understand more of the physical life of Jesus Christ on this earth, as shown via the gospels.

    His last books published are evident of that; and even his future books (which LCM dropped like a lead ballon), "The harmony of the gospels" and "Jesus Christ the apostle and high priest", which Walter Cummins later published as "The acceptable year of the Lord".

    That's a very interesting observation, Lightside, in view of the works that came out concerning the topic of Jesus' death and birth, as well as the planned "Harmony" of the gospels.

    Unfortunately, it seemed too little, too late, and an unwinnable battle, so long as the PFAL teaching of the 4 gospels being part of the Old Testament (which rendered the teachings of Jesus as not addressed to us) remained in place and unchallenged.

    Wierwille might have made a more significant impact upon his group and cleared away matters for the better had he the good sense to discard that unhealthy obstruction from the start.

    I mean, he could have gone on and on discussing where Jesus was born, and where He slept and where He ate, and where and how He died ,but it's all futile if the actual teachings of Jesus are not considered as having any weight of revelance or authority or application for one's life in the present. Without the teachings of Jesus, one might have just as well worshiped Mithra or Prometheus or any number of other magical-mystery saviors on a stick.

    Danny

    [This message was edited by TheInvisibleDan on March 13, 2004 at 14:00.]

    TWI's Take on The Passion of Christ

    in About The Way

    Posted

    I can't shake this certain sense of deja vu when browsing the discussions surrounding this movie. I admittedly have not seen it yet - I will at some point, I'm certain. Preferably on a day I choose not to eat anything. But in hearing of the extreme beatings and tortures in bloody, graphic detail that the Jesus in this movie undergoes, I can't help but think back on the Wayworld hoopla surrounding the release of "Jesus Christ Our Passover" a few years ago, in which speakers enthusiastically depicted the intense brutality to which Jesus was subjected (even getting sodomized by the Romans) - with one speaker (V**** F******) also going so far as to describe a beaten, mutilated Christ with his eye popped out of its socket and hanging out.

    Is it just me, or does anyone else here get that sense that we've heard all this "beat-the-Jesus-into-a bloody-hamburger" stuff before?

    In all fairness, perhaps my impressions are premature. But nonetheless, I find the parallels a bit weird, to say the least.

    Danny

    Are The Dead Alive Now?

    in About The Way

    Posted

    If Matt.27:52-53 is suspected to be an interpolation, then the question must at least be raised: why was it added?

    What compelled the editors to insert this material here?

    To specifically oppose the ideas relating to the doctrinal position of death as set forth in "Are the Dead Alive Now"? - that doesn't seem very likely or convincing.

    Nor do I find convincing the theory of this pertaining to bodies rolling out the graves due to an earthquake, which rather are described as "rising" and "going out of the tombs" and "entering into the holy city".

    Seems a lot of activity for rotten corpses.

    Witches & Witchcraft

    in About The Way

    Posted

    quote:
    Originally posted by dmiller:

    Dan -- so she is still practicing, or did she get out too? icon_confused.gif:confused:-->

    I'm not a Wiccan myself. She was something of a nature loving "Witch" when I met her (a couple years after I left the Way), and I was progressing in the opposite direction of anti-world neo-Marcionism through my studies. Our religious/spiritual ideas couldn't be more radically different on the face of it. But we share the same ideals of trying to be good to everyone and to one another, wishing to bring no harm or injury to others. In that respect she lives up to, through her continual voluntary work through charities and soup kitchens and the Red Cross.

    Which is immensely inspiring for me personally.

    And when I think about it, this was much more than I could sadly say for the previous group we all experienced here. They never really inspired me to actually "give", outside of the fearful dogma wearing the clothing of Dale Carnegie, of a petty deity who would abandon his children to potential poverty and violence if they didn't fork over 10% to that week - not much of a Christian God of Love going on there, in my opinion.

    So mywife was refreshing to me. And yes, the only woman in the world crazy enough to actually marry me.

    Our differences seem to boil down to merely different or variant conceptions concerning the make-up of that realm invisible to us. Which hardly seems grounds for basing any marriage.

    Unless one wished to change their spouse into someone else other than the one to whom one was attracted originally. The futility to which I think many here already more than understand.

    So she prays to her goddesses, and I pray to my God. Almost 15 years later, - along with the inevitable ups and downs of any marriage - so far, so good. And no pesky mother-in-law who actually pop in unexpectedly out of thin air, and turn me into a frog or newt. No, her parents are actually Episcopalian, and they're sweet. There's quite a variety on both sides of our families. Pagans, Jews, Episcopalians, Catholics, Protestants, agnostics, gays, and least one neo-Marcionite and who-knows-what-else. And maybe one republican (in the closet).

    But it's not me.

    Danny

    [This message was edited by TheInvisibleDan on February 27, 2004 at 1:44.]

    Witches & Witchcraft

    in About The Way

    Posted

    quote:
    Originally posted by Oakspear:

    Warlock: An old-English term for oath breaker. Conservative Christians and the media often refer to male Witches/Wiccans as Warlocks. The term is not used by Witches, Wiccans or other Neopagans.

    That's what my wife has also told me.

    She's been a Wiccan/Pagan/whatever for 15 years.

    Danny

    TWI and their alleged practice of witchcraft

    in About The Way

    Posted · Edited by Guest

    I recall one rumor upon the assassination of John Lennon, that a trunk co-ordinator "delivered" John Lennon to Satan (to be killed),upon being offended by supposed satanic lyrics in Lennon's last album.

    Some peculiar Christian "deliverance" there, "they love us," oh "yeah, yeah, yeah."

    It wouldn't surprise me if the deadly "deliverer" was LCM.

    He hated Lennon with a passion,

    a fact I know from my attendance at one of his visiting rants in Hartford circ. 1980.

    I think he relished the fact that Lennon was killed, not far removed from the darkened mind of the nutcase that shot him.

    Danny

    [This message was edited by TheInvisibleDan on February 26, 2004 at 2:04.]

×
×
  • Create New...