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That's the beauty of it. Nobody is a stakeholder. Sure, we gave them millions, but problem is that we gave them the money. We didn't demand representation on the board and VPW most assuredly did not want us to have representation. We have no contract with them and no legal recourse to control them. And VPW was pretty clear about letting us know that this is the way it was.

But to whom belongs the money? Just to Rosie and the yes boss guys?

Nope, it doesn't work that way. A non-profit has to stay a non-profit forever. The only thing that can be done is to give the non-profit organization to a similar non-profit organization.

Now the property can be sold, like Rome City and Emporia were. But the money still has to stay in the non-profit corporation. It can't go to the investors because there aren't any.

As to the copyrights and trademarks, they are no different from any other asset the non-profit owns. They belong to TWI and TWI can enforce them. Just like the Catholics can trademark Knights of Columbus, etc.

An we as stakeholder could not get rid of the board and put a new one? For example the Way Corps that are all over the world may not recover TWI for the belivers, for the grads?

http://waycorps.ning.com/

Here's the short answer...

The Way International was granted non-profit tax exempt status many years ago. VP and Uncle Harry gave their share of the Wierwille property to The Way. I understand that brother Ruben did not and was bought out by The Way. Once the property belonged to The Way, the Wierwille family had no direct control over it.

The Way International is not controlled by the Wierwille family because they lost majority control of the Board of Directors. For whatever reason, VPW did not choose to continue to appoint family members to the board after Uncle Harry and Don. He could have and he could have charged the family members to keep control in the family. He didn't or couldn't, for reasons unknown to me.

Understand that even the board of directors are quite restricted on what they can do with the assets of TWI. They can't just cash it out and keep the money. They can just let it idle along and pay themselves very comfortable paychecks.

But andybobdy could buy it, the mark, the farm, camp Gunnison? or ther is some tipe for to invest and be the new owner? Thake out the control of the board?

There are no shareholders in a non-profit corporation. The whole point of a non-profit is that it gets tax advantages in return for not giving profits to investors/owners.

Yes but the now they are The Way Inc. and have copy rights and a trade mark?

It no longer belongs to the wierwille family.

It belongs to the corporation.

Hi, and God bless you all.

Yes I know all belongs to the corporation but the family is not a shareholder in some for?

Or some one in the family is a shareholder who recives benefits, money for the trademark and all the incomes?

What type of person would want that position?

Hi, for the Wierwille family was its property, the family farm and TWI is making very good money. 25 million us dollars is very good money for a family. For doing nothing. Also Camp Gunison and the money from all this years.

Hi JeffSjo!

Why ther is no Wierwille now in the Board of Directors of TWI and why they have run, fired almost all the amily members frome the organization? It was a family business and they ended with noting trying to star all over again.

Or this other guys:

Is this thread about twi wolves only or all wolves?

Pope Benedict Protects Accused Pedophile Priests

I think that cheranne idea is just about the way wolves, but the problem is that the wolves are everywere. TWI had god and bad things but whit its doctrine you born again, but in other religions and cult you do not.

The suffering in the world is huge. Like in Afganistan. Just to said some place. Choose one?

In the World the Christian are a minority, Just 30 % of the World populatin is Christian in some form protestants. catholics, orthodox, The Wolves are more and bigger than we can imagine, John 10:10.

The poll thread was getting very derailed by discussion of the "Orange" book, so I'm starting a new thread.

Mike quoted:

Since I have taken up research, I was astounded that this statement was written with no citation. Actually, there isn't a citation in the entire book, but that's beside the point.

It is an inaccurate statement. Greek was the common administrative and written language for the entire region. This is historic fact. Most of the people of that day were illiterate. This is also historical fact. People who spoke Aramaic probably couldn't read it, much less write it down as it was primarily an oral means of communication.

I believe statements such as the one in red was just the beginning of how VPW started romancing people to his way of thinking regarding how the bible was to be read and interpreted. Back when he wrote the book, it was pretty hard to check that little tidbit against other sources. Now there is a wealth of information available, and it's usually free. MIKE: the fact that you aren't looking at that information that has come out largely since you started studying TWI materials exclusively does not reflect well regarding your scholarship, especially since VPW admonished us to not take his word for things. Read his stuff and study it, but to do it without a critical eye is foolish. That lack of critical evaluation is what allowed the abuses to start and grow.

Now that these tools are readily available for research, any discussion of VPW's "work" can and should be evaluated using standard methods of scholarship and critiqued accordingly.

In Argentina ther is ex TWI who has a site based on what he said is and original New Testament Text in Arameo Galileo called P-E-S-H-I-T-T-A?.

The link to the site is in the Cortright home page. http://ar.geocities.com/malpana2001/ :blink:

There are things that does not match, in the USA you go to jail for almost any thing, you get lawsuit for a lot of money. But VPW died ok, also LCM is ok and TWI still running.

If they were like the peopleo from Waco Texas, that David something they have alredy closed the place.

Hi WordWolf

so glad to hear your out! Now why do you think I have a problem

with TWI(you just answered most of it yourself)

I believe the bible but NOT the twisted scripture of how TWI teaches. I got into TWI to learn about

"biblical research" (as they call it)but it was wrong and it is a cult that I wish NO ONE to get into and

furthermore if they are OUT and still believe all that "hogwash" they are NOT really free!

JesusChrist has already made us free.

and I don't belong to any church your talking about!

The Way International is just candy coated with artifial "bible flavored" crap

that cover up all the Lies of (so called "dr.vpw)(cough! ) someday you will

be glad your reading this(I am sure there is a reason your here...must be curious huh?)

Keep on reading here and start from greasespot news,believe me your only hurting yourself

hanging around those vultures in twi.

Been there........done that.

I have been out of TWI since 2002, also have internet since 2000. I have read this site for years, even before I get register, registed. I know all about Dr. Vic and the girls, about his death from cancer also that he stole the teachings. Tha fog years. Know than L. Craig Marindale also do many girls in "menage a trois". Way dayle. But that does not mean that the Bible is a counterfeit. And that Jesus Christ is not coming back.

Or the Bible is the Word of God or it is not.

VPW. LCM, Rosie and all and every one of us will have to answer to God some day.

Maybe you should want to come to Taxco Mexico, very good "Fiestas" of "Semana Santa". In the World exist much, much worst things than bible fans.

Yes Beware.

John W.Schenheit has a teaching called: "We can Trust the Written Word" and in it he explained some things about how the scritpures arrived up to our day and time. He also talks about a book: "The Text of the New Testament: Its Transmission,Corruption and Restoration" by Bruce M. Metzger.

I do not think I am a Victim of a cult, or a victim of the Catholic Church or the Devil because someone teach me Romans 10:9 and 10. Also to live with hope of the return of Jesus Christ.

I have lerned to be more human, humanitarian. To be quiet when other believe in things that we were thought to be devilish, or from a debil spiritual source.

What I may not learned is to be nice whit homosexuales, gay, lesbian.

What measurement criteria are you using when you ask if they are bigger? Money, number of followers, actively selling the product or what?

I think that all of the above are related, but the most important for me is the number of followers, of disciples in term of what LCM thought, on daily basis. Run fellowships, classes, win new ones.

Many years had gone since the Fog Years, also L. Crag Martindale has many years outside TWI, many said that the size of TWI is just 10 % of what it use to be in its best years. Rosale F. Riverbark is not a good teacher like VPW or LCM.

But John Lynn and John W. Schoenheit are working and producing a lot of things and CES/STFI have more than 20 years of hard work maybe they are bigger than TWI at this moment?

Thank you :)

I found this picture of the 6th corps, which one is John S. ?

http://6thcorpsreunion.com/images/6thCorps.jpg

Than you all and Happy New Year. During this days I been watching his Free Indeed Videos On Line and I think that he is wearing his way corps green ring. And as we know he is teaching how to be a work man of the word.