ckmkeon

God first

Beloved ckmkeon

God loves you my dear friend

Do you recall

Romans 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

With your quote I am sorry you are putting a stumblingblock in some were way

your quote

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Thank God for VPW

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but would not it say what you want said if you said

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Thank God for want VPW taught

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While I do not hate VPW but his name brings up bad memories and when think back I think of the evil that was done to me and I get mad while I try not to sin I do some times

so all I am saying is maybe there a better way to say what you want said without adding salt to so many hurt people on the boards

While the class help me I am more thankful for the believers that love me in the Way Ministry to be my friends

God and Christ have became my friends by believers becoming my friends

thank you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Just because you asked do you think I will change my ending statement. "Oh Will you please change you ending for the sake of GOD, Please or pretty please". My answer is no, and why should I because people don't like it. Maybe because you think it is to salty. This is my opinion and I would never say to you will you omit this and change this just because I don't like it.

Ephesians 6:13,14

Wherefore take unto you the whole amour of God that ye maybe able to withstand in the evil day and having done all to stand.

Stand therefore having your loins girt about with truth and having the breastplate of righteousness.

Oh by the way your verse is out of context. Let us look at the verse before.

(Romans 14:12) So then everyone of us shall give account of himself to god, then your verse. What that is saying is to not judge men.

So you say God First, do you recall what you have done wrong. That is what you statement says Romans 14:13 let us judge no man.

Do you recall

all I am saying is maybe there a better way to say what you want said without adding salt

CK

But you see Allen, It isn't just about if you are over them--It's about if all the rest of us are over them too. What one chooses to think about and how often is a very personal matter-- It isn;t your right to make the decision for the rest of us. If you are over It--great- but some of the rest of us aren't, we will be over it when we are over it.

While I believe the question was who were the leaders who went with those dates, or did you make them up like a quarterback 32, 2000, 162, HIKE HIKE. So who were the leaders in these times you put down.

CK

CK...your signature says Thank God for VPW, not Thank God for his teachings (inaccurate as they were). Are you also thankful for his raping and pllaging, mind control and overt destroying of people's lives?

And why would you call him Dr. if he had not earned his PhD?

Help me out here dude..cause I don't get it.

And he has been DEAD for 20 years...and I know I am going to heaven and I KNOW I won't ever see him or loy-boy there.

Did you wake up this morning and say "Today I am going to post on GS". As I can tell VPW had direct insight from God, so I would not care if he got his high school diploma. He still had the love of God. You are going to heaven what a laugh. . You better check you ticket you may just be staying here.

Roman 3:2324

For all have come sinned and come short of the glory of God.

Being justified freely by his grace though the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.

Why would I care if he sinned

Jesus said" You without sin you cast the first stone"

So I will not cast a stone at him but since you cast a stone at (VPW) I will also cast a stone at you.

You seem to be barking up the wrong tree and you can ask anybody here my opinions will not change or maybe you haven't seen my signature. I thank god daily for the teaching's of VPW

I hope that helps

CK

Hey, come on guys...do you really think CK WORSHIPS VP ??

Like me, I think CK is very thankful for what was the ministry of VP, theres a big differn'ce.

Dr. Wierwille has been asleep for 21 years...GET OVER IT !!

I don't worship VPW, but I am thankful for his teachings.

CK

Welcome to Grease Spot, Pete and DesertVis -

I've found the original text where CK pulled his signature from - for some reason CK dropped off the last phrase - but here it is in it's completeness:

Thank God for VPW

Well I fixed your quote that looks alot better, plus I never said that or typed that or thought that. Maybe you just made it up. Well it is fixed now and in case it is not

THANK GOD FOR DR.VPW

CK

DesertVis,

Many have come to GS and told us that twi reads their sunday script each week......which has to be pre-approved by the board of directors weeks in advance. The consensus is that these "teachings" are booooring......

This even Dr.Wierwille said was wrong, "The Way" is just a church.

CK

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I'm new here so forgive me if this is off topic, but please do not refer to wierwille as Dr. Wierwille. His PhD is NOT legitimate, and that is reprehensible to those of us who have earned ours.

In addition, as attested to by many here, he was a predator - thus, deserves no respect.

You are new I will always refer to Dr.Wierwille as Dr.Wierwille, but thanks for the comment.

Maybe you haven't seen my signature well here it is.

CK

This from the guy who launches his firey darts in inch high bold blue letters at the end of every post

This from the guy who launches his firey darts in inch high bold blue letters at the end of every post

Take the shield of faith. As the verse says.

Am I seeing double

CK

Thank you Allan, I think you do to.

You guys just read a part of everything and that is what I mean by this place being wicked. The verse says "Taking the shield of faith wherewith ye shall be able to quench all fiery darts of the wicked

Now since I have been here there has not been one person who has not shot a "fiery dart". Now what I am saying is that I have taken the shield of faith to quench them.

While I have only been learning the bible for about 5 to 10 years I would think that you guys who joined in the 70's would be able to remember one verse... but I guess not. Maybe it is old age getting to you. The verse goes perfectly with the daily post here.

CK

No I don't give the credit to Dr.Wierwille, but the verse goes perfectly with what I go through daily here. In case someone doesn't understand I am saying that GS is the wicked. Except for a few people...

CK

Now this is off topic but My signature has changed just a little bit, but I added this scripture.

Ephesians 6:16

Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

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CK

Most people have so much hatred toward TWI they would not forgive them if they went door to door. Since the TWI doesn't think they are wrong, I would not hold my breath.

CK

Well I do like your letter and I hope it helps the ministry, but Jesus also said

John 8:7

He that is without sin amoung you, let him first cast a stone.

During this time Jesus was angry, although his walk with love never ended. While Jesus had the love of god he always did the fathers will.

Now I will tell what it looks like to me, ("The Way" this is what you are doing wrong) and your answer is love but you in order to get there attention. The answer is using scripture for example ICOR 13.

No, using this scripture can explain to them why they can't do as much.

II Tim 3:16

All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction. For instruction in righteousness.

They have lost there love so they need ICOR 13

Godbless,

CK

This is how I feel, I think some people just love throwing stones. My age has gotten the most damage here didn't Jesus say "You without sin you cast the first stone". Since none of us are without sin no stones should be thrown. Now while a opinion is one thing it has the right of being talked about. The opinion has two sides and a regular debate is ok, but bashing people is wrong.

CK

No --- when docvic passed, the flamboyance, used-car-salesman mentality went 6 feet under.

Lcm tried -- but he was inadequate.

The *truth* docvic offered came from others, and continues to live in their written works.

It was around before his *ministry* began. *Truth* does NOT revolve around docvic.

David I know what you think, I have heard your opinions, WE WILL ALWAYS DISAGREE. Therefore I believe VPW was right, and you don't we might as well agree to disagree.

CK

God First

Well I for one like the new site, the only thing is I think they are to connected to the ministry. The way it seems to me is that no one can get the word unless they are under the ministry. Although they say on the site that the word is spoken at "The Way". My opinion is that after Dr.Wierwille died most of the truth died with him. While "The Way" is still open they are just like any other church today. The only thing keeping them open is the selling of Dr.Wierwille's books.

The one reason I like the new site is because of the pure hatered for the way, this is like a democrat's party site talking about the republicans now there is a site for the good and the bad parts of "The Way" So I am going to say I am happy to see it but I think they are knee deep in it.

CK

I think Craig needs go a bit deeper than food or money.

CK, Would you help an "unbeliever" the same as you would Craig ?

Luk 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

Luk 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

Luk 6:33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.

Luk 6:34 And if ye lend [to them] of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.

Luk 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and [to] the evil.

Ok Goey I am not sure about the question, but my answer is

Luke 6:35 hoping for nothing and your reward shall be great, for he his kind to the unthankful and to the evil.

That is what I have been saying all along, help till you can't help do it with love and you reward will be great as the bible says. So yes I would still help LCM

CK

Yes I would help him out,

From what I hear he needs help, so if he needed money I would ask how much? because you will be blessed no matter who it is. If he needed food I would feed him and so on. Because no matter what he may have done you will be blessed to help him out. While helping him you want to kill him then,

I COR 13:3

And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor and through I give my body to be burned and have not the love of God in the renewed mind it profiteth me nothing

Then you will not be blessed, but feel burdened to do it. So I would be blessed to help a fellow believer and I would hope on the best for him (ICOR13:7). That is how I feel about it.

CK

When I get to the Gathering together I'll be too busy greeting friends and family and basking in the radiance of GOD and Jesus Christ to even notice one way or the other

That is very nice, I think that so many people here need to chill out. People are saying what they are going to do if they see VPW. Why even worry about VPW, I mean really you have everything to think about in the gathering together. The first thing some of you came up with was this is what I will do if VPW is there. While I think some of you are of track I think Temp has got it right, be blessed to be there and greet others who meet us.

CK

The persecution here has gone off track, but I hope to discuss this subject some more.

CK

Well I think I Thessalonians 4:16,17 applies to the gathering together.

16. For the lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of God and the dead in christ shall rise first.

17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the lord

Now it is very clear that these verses show us the return of christ and the gathering together of the believers. The verses also show us that we will be with the lord forever after the return.

CK

Thank you very much, but I am still around in different post/threads saying my opinions.

CK

The bible tells us that all jews in the start of the new testament followed Jesus and become Christians. The jews of this time came down from Russia and found the scrolls and then believed them. All of the jews today if they actually went into there family tree would find they came from Russia, not israel. Will any of you disagree that the US is the only country that supports the jews. The jews have gotten a large return on there holocaust. The jews believe in the old law while Jesus plainly states I am the new law. So the people I feel sorry for are the WWII victims who fought in the war. Every single person who died fighting in the battles that is who you should feel sorry for they are you own country men. So in my end statement I will say this I think the jews are getting a free ride.

CK

While everyone whines about the poor jews let me find a rag to cry a tear. Let me tell you what I think, you guys just hate VPW so much that you just have to disagree with everything that he said. Let us flash forward to now we (USA) pay for everything for the jews. The jews wouldn't even have a country without us. The jews would still be persecuted today if it weren't for us. The USA supports the jews and without our money where would they be. Now I am not saying that the germans didn't kill anyone all I am saying is that the jews made up the number.

CK

The most important thing to know is that God would not allow the Nazi's to kill so many people. Therefore I believe the book is right on this one no more than 1.5 million were killed. So when the Nazi's release there records I believe a number around 1.5 and 2 million were killed. That is my opinion and I believe VPW and LCM were right also.

CK