RumRunner

Putting "The Way" and "research" in the same sentence? Isn't that like oxymoron squared?

Having been in the research community ( no not biblical - university earth science ) you sometimes come up with the following final report; "The results were inconclusive." I never heard VPW or LCM say that. They always had some glib comment about the Apaches, or gays, or Jews, but NEVER was it inconclusive - unless of course we were told that we just hadn't found the text yet.

I feel compelled to pipe in here and say that Al Capone never was a gangster, as far as I know. If he was, you can be sure he'd have been jailed for that. All he ever did wrong was get in trouble with the IRS.

Right, oldies?

Perfect Evan

I forgot about the teaching of the prophet that was "crookeder than a dog's hind leg" .. (Amos?)

Anyway, vp had to be sure to get that in there as foundational to understanding his ministry ...

VPW wanted to be Gandalf from Lord of the Rings. Too bad it was just a fantasy.

OK, right back at ya!(although I have no idea what a Pasqua or Pascha are)

Rick

Pasqua is Spanish for Easter Bluzeman. Easter Island in the Pacific is Isla de Pasqua.

OK - hope this is funny and not a downer on this thread. This morning my daughter (17 with no TWI exposure and little religious exposure) comes downstairs and asks, "What is this thing where Jesus comes back as a bunny and lays eggs?" I couldn't help it I just started laughing real loud, as did she. We got into a short discussion of religious assimiliation but most of the time we just kept laughing about religion.

May I add that the road to most serial killing is also paved with porn.

Where's part II? That's a good article.

TheEvan - while I won't deny that there is a conection I'll also pose this question. Does porn make serial murderers or is porn just one trait of a serial killer... who might also eat carrots.

My brother in law is a forensic psychiatrist and has often posed, "Why is porn rated X and outlawed which is a so called natural act taken to the extreme, but axe murders and beheadings are rated M or PG-17 when none of those acts are considered natural.

I'm not favoring porn - just wondering about the whole system.

Let's see, after being around that bunch for 20+ years, I've learned to be suspicious of anyone who wasn't a grad of the advanced class. Those that only had the Foundational class were just babies, and Intermediate class grads were growing up and learning to give...

After 5 years without the controlling, old Testament wanna-be, Zion freaks, I'm learning that all of their teachings came equipped with a twisted accessory that attached itself to your mind, and it's WORK trying to find and get rid of all those attachments! <_<

Where do you think Gene Roddenberry came up with the idea of the Borg Safari? You will be assimilated...

Dwonna! That was her name. Dwonna f*(k Cragi - wanna F*(k Rosalie

Groucho tell me the acid hasn't taken away all of my memories

Naw Groucho - that was P.T. Barnum and the Ringling Broths... oh yeah - I forgot - same thing

Damn - I haven't even thought of that stupid phrase for 20 years - horn of plenty... Wasn't that what Martindales wife called Rivenbark? What the hell was Martindale's wifes name again?

I thought it was called Gearing up to Walk in Geer's power

RumRunner...You're much too modest...if I'm not mistaken, Wierwille stole YOUR corps thesis and added it to one of his books...put his name to it of course.

HAHAHAHAHA - too true - but I'm not bragging about any of that Groucho - don't know whether to be proud or embarrassed by that shyite

Wasn't that the title of a Wishbone Ash album (CD - whatever - Groucho and I are older than Jesus)

Perfect Groucho - all Lery asked for was turn on, tune in and drop out - &$*# - WAIT didn't we do that with TWI - at least the drop out part LOL

Groucho - now Fartingdale is a king - HAHAHAHAHA - well then I guess everything concave belongs to the king

Damned straight Shellon

Yeah but one ended over the weekend the other lasted too many years. I'll take the acid for twi anytime

What the hell was his name Groucho??? Kotch or something like that - busted his mother for speeding. WHy don't you sign his foot up for PFAL

That abusive @(%* would dry hump a skunk if he thought it would boost his ego and income

Damn Groucho you beat me to it!

Groucho - maybe we can sell the place to Stoshu, Joe and Mick

Come on Groucho where the hell is Timothy Leary :) Now that was worth way more than PFAL and cost less.

Considering his vehemant attacks against gays, I often wonder...

Many psychologists say that people who "bad mouth" gays the most are really hiding their own repressed feelings...any thoughts on the subject?

I always wondered about his fine scene in AOS where he was dry humping the "spirits" of temptation or seduction or whatever they were supposed to be while his wife was really doing Rivenbark off stage.

Ya Belle - I bet you are right. Can't wait to see what Groucho posts when he sees this

Good job Krysilis explaining density differences and global circulation. Take a look at some of Bob Gray's work on supercanes and hypercanes. He was the red headed step-child for years until his stats got better than the NHC's.

What's your line of work if you don't mind me asking? Eveer tossed a CTD or Seci disk over the side?

Explain Venus then. It is covered with clouds, which go a LONG way of trapping the heat in -- to the tune of over 900 degrees F. Hot enough to melt lead.

:huh:

Garth that is why the Venus Express was built - which BTW approaches orbit burn pretty soon - like sometime this week I think. However there are also some rather obvious differences. Orbit radius, atmospheric chemistry, etc.

What I am telling you is that we simply do not understand the physics well enough yet to make hard decisions about all of the processes. That fact is, and honest scientist admits when they don not have all of the answers while still being forward to enough to post trends. I posted trends in the field of science I work in.

No honest scientist is leaving any stone unturned - including Venus. However if we have all of the correct answers on global warming please explain to me we spent a boatload of money to spend a spaceprobe to get more info?!

Nicely done Goey! Let me add a little more since I am pretty involved that science side of that community. First of all Goey is spot on about the phytoplanton. You can use ocean color from visible space-borne radiometers to determine relative amount, and hence, relative health of the phytoplankton from their chlorphyll signature they leave in the water. Follow the links to the right of Goeys link to Phytoplankton labelled SeaWiFS and Terra. That's how you get the data.

Why is phytoplanton important? Besides Oxygen/CO2 regeneration? Too little OR too much kills the food chain. Too little is obvious - nothing for the rest of the chain to eat. Too much (let's from phosphate pollution) causes an overpopulation. When they die, like all carbon based life, they oxydize in the water. Simply put they rot and as they do the consume oxygen. Guess what else needs oxygen...fish. It is a condition known as hypoxia.

Now Goey I'm gonna add a little on global warming. Besides it is as controversial as some of the posts on GSC :) It is true that there is distinct evidence of global warming and it is also true that it is unclear how much of the cycle is natural and how much humans have contrbuted too. Humans love to hate each other. However a couple of points to remember. There plenty of evidence for "ice ages" where polar ice sheets ran all the way down into the continental U.S. After a few thousand years the globe warmed... and you have a nice sweet temporate zone in the northern hemispher that is hospitable to us warm-blooded crunchy things. You pick :)

Second issue which is still out is the cloud physics. Global warming will, theoretically produce larger quantites of greenhouse gases. They are called that, possibly erroneuosly, because originally it was, and still is in many circles, thought that those gases will result in increased, perhaps global cloud cover. The clouds hold the heat, the self feeding cycle gets worse.

But WAIT THERE'S - a pack of Ginzu knives - oops wrong channel - let's go back the the clouds again. Every cloud physicist has this great dilemma. Where do we GET our heat in the first place? Well some is internal but almost every bit of it is from solar energy. Clouds are white - well mostly - but we wont go there. If they are white and they are global then they REFLECT SUNLIGHT...which means less energey getting under the cloud layers and less terrestrial heating.

And hears the kicker - the best cloud physicist in the world can't tell you which way it would really go. All of the models and simulations suffer in that the slightests tweaks will make a model pick the other choice.

My last thought. I am not a tree hugger. But it does make sense not to crap in your dishwasher... so we might be only a tiny fraction of the warming issue but it's still a good idea to recycle, find alternatives to some the chemicals that were in common use that are known to alter atmospheric chemistry...

Ya know - just don't crap in your dishwasher.