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Blood transfusion is forbidden.
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I always try to be be polite about it. (I used to hate rudeness when I went door-to-door in TWI.)
You could try a little white lie, though, such as telling them you're feeling weak from your recent blood donation.
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This pretty much describes every at-the-door encounter I've ever had with JW's. It's purely anecdotal and proves nothing, of course, but you posed the question.
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Well then, let's have a hot dog and a beer.
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Is it Saturday yet?
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Well, the new week is almost here. Just remember...too much business is wrong for you.
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Sad paper courtesan
They found him just a man.
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Lovely to see you again my friend...
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No politics, Allan.
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Dear Friends
in Open
Do you deliver in the hills?
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Farewell the temple master’s bells
His kiosk and his black worm seed
Courtship solely of his word
With Eden guaranteed.
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Wierwille gave us examples of how he "practiced" discerning of spirits. Was that a veiled invitation to try it ourselves? Well, at the time, it seemed to be. That's my answer to the question regarding D.O.S. excellor sessions.
Now, regarding retemories and how such things relate to the discussion of freewill:
We were advised to disregard our own thoughts and emotions and replace them with thoughts that had been prescribed for us. We made decisions and behaved in ways we might have otherwise decided against.
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11 minutes ago, Rocky said:
Anyone have any idea how that relates at all to whether or not we have freedom of will?
Yes. The current tangent spun off a post I made yesterday.
Does anyone else remember being taught (Advanced Class or Dealing With The Adversary, perhaps?) that the subconscious is a fallacy? Something about everything really being spiritual background noise or ...something. I think that was proposed as part of the idea behind throwing retemories at undesired thoughts, "keeping the birds from nesting where they land". We were supposed to be the ones who made the decision which thoughts to entertain and which to discard. Somehow, 50 years of life experiences have clouded the details for me.
The key element relating to free will thought and behavior was this:
"We were supposed to be the ones who made the decision which thoughts to entertain and which to discard."
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5 hours ago, Nathan_Jr said:
Were "excellor" sessions on discerning of spirits ever offered or sold?
Interestingly enough, the answer is yes (sort of). Believers used to go to public places, such as malls and fairs and parks, and try to discern the spirits in the people around them. Wierwille indirectly promoted this by his tales of trips to the race track to pick winners and his supposed ability to see black hearts for seed of the serpent and white hearts for holy spirit.
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The crux of the issue here is not whether cancer is spirit possession or is not spirit possession. The heart of the matter is whether Wierwille made the claim or didn't. Clearly, he did. No supporting statements are needed. It's on page 22 of the Advanced Class syllabus.
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6 minutes ago, Mike said:
I don't doubt VPW said something like that one sentence, and a lot more supporting sentences to go with it. Someday I may find it, or find someone who took good notes from that class.
Did you not read what I just posted mere minutes ago?
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Lets destroy a Friday Night.
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Oh, soon your
Sailing will be over
Come and take
The pleasures of the harbor