Allan

again ,that statement shows your lack of critical thinking lol....I'm VERY interested because if the USA 'sneezes', the Western world 'catches a cold' - excuse the pun

T-Bone said- "…I am so fvcking familiar with cultic-mind-games it’s not even funny – though I have to admit, I laughed out loud when I read your post revealing Dr. Seheult’s evil plan to subvert the power and authority of the science and medical communities – i" Hey, hey, I recognized TWI as a cult whilst you were still licking LCM's jockstrap, so that's a pretty weak argument lol. You and others have not yet made the 'connection' ...have you ?! What were TWI's three tenets of belief, their driving motive ?? MONEY, POWER, CONTROL = CULT....Big Pharma/Government ? MONEY, POWER, CONTROL...you're IN the covid cult and you do not even realise it !! Oh, and as for Dr. Seheult....look at the TIMELINE of his videos and what he is saying two years ago compared to things he has changed his stance on (sorry Twinks, you arse umed wrong) ...again.

Perhaps because now that the pharma companies lobbied sucessfully to get HCQ and Ivermectin (two very cheap alternatives) pretty much outlawed, they can 'repackage' it and make $quillions

Oh, I believe as time goes on, the real fallout from these experimental vaccines will manifest....pro-jabbers vs jab hesitant crowd...last man standing

In fact, from the 20 minute mark the guy gives compelling argument AS TO WHY 'alternative' treatments/preventatives are shut down !!

Of course the medical councils worldwide are not at all influenced by UN, WHO etc...no, not at all

The Doctor is also VERY smart. He knows that IF he came out and dismissed the covid vaccine and/or stated vitamin D as an alternative to the covid vax, he would be struck off the medical register and very likely be charged with an offence, not to mention the leftie media and other nut job covid cultists on him like blowflies on a fresh cow patty. How about it (said in an exxagerated VPW tone LMAO)

in reverse order, no, because lockdowns have been proven statistically to not work, believe me hun, it's the Sunshine (thats why they tried to keep people INDOORS :) Enjoy getting vaccinated every year then, like the flu shot (that doesn't work because it's always a year behind the latest mutant variety)...enjoy being a human trial rat for every seasonal adjusted jab. 52 year old Joe Baloneyface died from being run over by a steam roller. Had he not been vaccinated he would 'surely' have died FROM (not with) covid lol

well, thats a very nonchalant and rather 'cold' statement considering the post !

again, I'll ask, do you believe in man made global warming ? I don't, just as I don't believe in the efficacy of the covid jab !

Interesting....Bolshvik, Waysider and yourself seem to have swapped one cult for another !! The cult of covid !! Bolshevik and Waysider both posted "they check the covid cases daily" (swap 'daily' for 'religiously') There seems to be an obsession with it, hence the zealousness to 'get everyone vaccinated' (swap 'vaccinated' for 'signed up')...I'm seriously concerned for you people !! TWI used fear tactics, love bombing, intellectual arguments, bagging and repudiating of alternative groups to present themselves as the only savior for mankind....blind obedience to the 'man of God for our day and time' has been swapped for 'blind obedience to big Pharma and the Government. I know leaving TWI left a big spiritual vacuum in some of your lives, I'm just very surprised at WHAT you have filled that vacuum with !!!

Here's a shorter one for you then, sent to me by a good American friend... Facebook list below certainly makes me in no hurry to go and get vaxxed until detailed, in- depth mid to long term risk analysis is done 33 year old pro dancer Santo Giuliano suffers heart attack 5 days after vaccine 32 year old Olympic Tennis player Joachim Gerard collapses during match with heart problems 19 year old Football player Jalen Leavey dies at campus after the game 23 year old Baseball player Daniel Brito suffers stroke during game 19 year old Football player Tirrell Williams dies following on-field collapse 21 year old Football player Okafor Kelechi dies during training 29 year old Football player Lee Moses dies during training session 15 year old Footballer Stephen Sylvester collapsed and dies during conditioning practice 18 year old Football player Emmanual Antwi dies after collapsing on the field 13 year old Football player Cajetan Chinoyelum Nsofor dies during practice 15 year old Soccer player Moira Claire Arney died during practice Junior High School Baseball Pitcher Andrew Roseman died suddenly and unexpectedly, no further information given 17 year old Footballer Nickolas Lawrinas died suddenly and unexpectedly, cause given by media, unclear 17 year old Footballer Miquel Lugo collapsed and died during practice 16 year old Football player Devon DuHart mysteriously died in July 2021 16 year old Footballer Ivan Hicks dies of Cardiovascular Disease during Scrimmage 19 year old Footballer Joe Bradshaw dies mysteriously off campus, not conclusion of death 16 year old Football player Drake Geiger collapses and dies during game 15 year old Football player Joshua Ivory collapses and dies during game 19 year old Football player Quandarius Wilburn collapses during practice and later dies 17 year old Football player Dimitri McKee passes out and dies after practice 28 year old Rugby play Tevita Bryce collapses during game from heart attack 29 year old Rugby player Dave Hyde collapses and dies after match 27 year old Baseball player Yusuke Kinodanga collapses and dies during practice 32 year old Champion Speed Skater Kjeld Nuis suffered Pericarditis after the vaccine 24 year old Olympic Cyclist Olivia Podmore dies suddenly and mysteriously in her room and during that week another athlete sprinter Cameron Burell also dies mysteriously 23 year old China Olympics Champion Gilbert Kwemoi collapsed in his home and died on the way to hospital 37-year-old former French professional footballer Franck Berrier dead Germany goalkeeping coach of SV Niederpöring suffers heart attack 24 years Bordeaux pro Samuel Kalu suffers cardiac arrest 25 years old Belgian soccer player Jente Van Genechten suffers cardiac arrest 31 years old Fabrice N'Sakala Besiktas Istanbul collapses on the field 29 years old Pedro Obiang Italian first division after vaccination has myocarditis 30 year old Venezuelan National Marathon Champion Alexaida Guedez dead 29 years old José dos Reis (Luxembourg) collapses on the field and has to be resuscitated Germany C-League Dillenburg a player from Hirzenhain collapses, the game is canceled 16 years old Diego Ferchaud from ASPTT Caen suffers a cardiac arrest Austria player of ASV Baden collapses on the field and has to be revived 16-year-old unnamed football player in Bergamo suffers cardiac arrest 27 years old Belgian amateur soccer player Jens De Smet dead 13-year-old soccer player from the Janus Nova club collapses on the field with cardiac arrest 17 year old soccer player Dylan Rich dies of a double heart attack during a game Player from Birati Club Münster suffers cardiac arrest 24 years old Lucas Surek from BFC Chemie Leipzig suffers from myocarditis 49 years old Ain / France: Frédéric Lartillot succumbs to a heart attack in locker room 45 years old Andrea Astolfi, sporting director of Calcio Orsago dead with no previous illness 22 years old Abou Ali collapses with cardiac arrest during a two-tier game in Denmark 19 years old ice hockey player Sebastiaan Bos dead. Passed away suddenly and unexpectedly 40 years old A half marathon runner collapsed during the race and died a little later Germany Anil Usta from VfB Schwelm breaks on the field with heart problems 33 years old Dimitri Liénard from FC Strasbourg collapses with heart problems 37 years old Ex-NFL professional Parys Haralson dies suddenly and unexpectedly 25 years old Kingsley Coman from FC Bayern Munich, operation on the heart after an arrhythmia 25 years old Canadian university football player Francis Perron dead shortly after a match 19 year old FC Nantes soccer player suffers cardiac arrest during training Germany volleyball trainer Dirk Splisteser from SG Traktor Divitz collapses dead on the sidelines Austria, 64 years old former goalkeeper Ernst Scherr dead suddenly and unexpectedly Germany, 42 years old Alexander Siegfried dead suddenly and unexpectedly A 17-year-old athlete from Colverde collapses while training with cardiac arrest France, 49 years oldSC Massay player dead of heart attack during the game Mexico, Caddy Alberto Olguin collapses on the golf course after a heart attack 29 years old Shrewsbury striker Ryan Bowman treated with defibrillator during play with extreme heart problems Italy, 18 year old soccer player suddenly faints on the field France, 40 years old A Saint-James player suffers a heart attack after warming up Italy, 59 years old long-distance runner from Biella dies of heart failure during a race Germany, Women's League match, a player collapses shortly before the end without any opposing influence 25 years German goalkeeper Lukas Bommer dies suddenly and unexpectedly Mexico, 16 years old student Hector Manuel Mendoza dies of a heart attack while training Brazil, 18 years old pro footballer Fellipe de Jesus Moreira has double heart attack and is fighting for his life Italy, 27 years old cycling champion Gianni Moscon has to undergo an operation because of severe cardiac arrhythmias Augsburg referee of a Kreisliga Augsburg game in Emersacker collapses with heart problems English lineswoman Helen Byrne, heart problems has to be carried off the pitch at world cup Germany Game abandoned due to cardiac arrest of the referee in a game of Lauber SV Italy, 20 years old young rider suffers a heart attack 17-year-old soccer player of the JSG High Hagen has revived during game 53-year-old football coach Antonello Campus dead16 years old collapses while playing soccer and dies a little later Germany Team leader Dietmar Gladow suffers a fatal heart attack before the game USA a high school football player collapsed during practice and died in the hospital Germany player collapsed during the A 2 regional league game suffered cardiac arrest Germany 15 years old goalkeeper Bruno Stein dead Italy, 53 years old AH footballer suffers a heart attack while training USA, 14-year-old soccer player Ava Azzopardi collapsed on pitch, is fighting for her life in an artificial coma France, 54 years old AH player Christophe Ramassamy died of a heart attack during a match France, 41 years old soccer player collapsed on the field and died due to cardiac arrest Austria, 26 years old Raphael Dwamena collapsed with severe heart problems Germany, Hertha BSC co-trainer Selim Levent dies suddenly and unexpectedly USA, 12 year old Jayson Kidd collapsed during basketball practice and later died Spain, 33-year-old striker Kun Agüero had to be replaced in a game due to heart problems USA 21 year old Senior student athlete John Stokes suffers with Myocarditis 22 year old Cyclist Greg Luyssen forced to end his career after vaccine due to heart problems

And that's a great example of why you should be unbiased in your reading and critical in your thinking! Medical experts have already stated on more than one occasion that the virus cannot be eradicated. Like the flu, it will keep mutating and become seasonal....oh, yeah, you like accompanying articles to read yeah ? The coronavirus is here to stay — here’s what that means (nature.com)

Well , perhaps because I live in Australias Gold Coast and am nearly always out surfing, the suns vitamin D enabled me to shake off covid twice ?! Perhaps also, this is why Australia has such a low mortality rate ?! Perhaps, I will continue with vitamin D intake, zinc supplements and be prepared to take Ivermectin should I get hit a third time ?! Although now there is a red pill available...yipee !! But no, because there is ZERO understanding of mid to long term consequences of the covid jab, I will not be rolling my sleeve up anytime soon :) BTW, you said "The vaccine, on the other hand, is a "preventive". It teaches your immune system how to recognize the virus and avoid becoming infected in the first place." -Firstly, it is a very poor inhibitor of helping avoid one catching covid altogether -Secondly, IF it does indeed do that, why are you and others REALLY concerned that EVERYONE get's the shot ? I may be wrong but I get the impression its because people who get the vax want others to get it to avoid the feeling of being isolated in their apprehension of what may happen further down the track..now, if I am wrong, do you have one good reason why you wont feel 'safe' until EVERYONE has been innoculated ?

Because it shows you have a penchant for following whatever supposed 'scientists, medical experts, meteorologists big pharma, media and governments' say without critically thinking about what you've just swallowed lol

simple question, yes or no ?)

My intention is NOT for anyone to 'buy the argument' because it's simply my opinion and decision based on medical opinion (that is NOT influenced by big pharma or government) you'd do better to 'argue with yourself', you might get the outcome you desire :)

So you're a believer in man-made global warming yeah ? The scientists say it is so .....so I guess it's true, yeah ?

Um, so you can be better informed ...it's a preventative along with other VITAL MINERALS (vitamins)

Please, all you "In big pharma we trust" followers, please, pick this apart and show me where this guy is wrong AND I will go get my jab tomorrow !!!!!

Im not a doctor either...THIS guy is.

I seem to recall somewhere that someone found almost by accident that some mould on a bit of cheese in their lab cured certain diseases...oh wait a doggone second...wasn't it Louis Pasteur and the mould turned out to be PENNICILIN !! Didn't the bark off a willow tree produce....ASPIRIN !! Natural based solutions, ah yes....God given solutions, beautiful.... Enter big Pharma..."golly gee, we can make a ton out of this...ah yes....(oh and of course the human population is still our first and main priority)...yeah right List of largest pharmaceutical settlements - Wikipedia No, the 'long term effects' of the covid vax have not been studied, how could they ? They haven't been around 'long enough'...but you people put your full trust in them, hope it works out...this forum came about because good people put their full trust in a religious organization thinking it was the 'bees knees' and totally had their best interests at heart. Well, fool me once...you know the rest. How quickly you put your trust and hope in a drug company and an administration of government they are in bed with. Yes, I would take Ivermectin, hydroxochloroquine, zinc over the jab any day of the week

I would use Ivermectin if I had to along with hydroxochloride and zinc (as plenty of others have done) including nearly the whole country of India). Studies and data has shown it works and has done for the last 50 years. No, if people are happy getting the covid jab, I'm happy for them. Yhe NIH and CDC banning these inexpensive drugs is just another wtf ? as far as I'm concerned...along with 50 other reasons that do not add up like offering covid jabs to 5 year olds.

I'm on GS forums to read some posts and if I feel inclined to offer my opinion...again, not trying to 'win' arguments (not sure why that bothers you so much ?) I'm not going to sit at the keyboard and analyze every keystroke before I hit it. If that's your buzz, Im happy for ya...it's just not my buzz to study the psychology of winning an argument just so I can....win an argument

Good golly, what don't you get ? I'm not trying to 'win' any argument. Just stating my thoughts and opinion and what I base them on. If you're on this forum to win arguments you must be either a/ missing your old job or b/ lacking something major in your life or c/ both !!