engine

Thank you, Mr. H.

Thank you, Jesus.

I am proud that i am a COPPED OUT CORPS GRAD as of 1986.

I like to keep things simple.

rob

I don't think there was any "conspiracy."

None of them were that smart...ya know?

They became corrupted by power.

As of 1998 that Clan was back up from where dey hailed from...Seattle area? Trisha was maybe in Portland...but dat be de area I'd be a startin' to look in...the NW.

Really sorry to hear this, Paw.

I hope you feel better after a time of mourning.

I received this news last night, too, but did not want to post it as I only knew Mark from a few brief encounters when I was on Interim staff at HQ in 1980- 81.

The folks in Way Prod. and A/V knew him much better- folks like Ted.

It's true that there are innumerable lives that he touched, and there are many wonderful, fun stories to tell about him: I heard a few last night.

My condolences to Barbara and their children (I hear from one who knows that the children are tremendous people).

Rob Agsten

PS The services will be in either Cary (Raleigh area)or Greensboro, NC by Gary King and Walter Manthey.

back atcha, Excathedra.

Alfakat is right. The Sommervilles did not want to be involved on a deep level. I forgot about that

and

not that what VP said had any wieght, but I remember him saying that thing many times about the Wierwille clan being involved.

Yeah, leave the kids out of it.

Show some respect like the mafia does...leave the wife and kids out of it.

rob

Some movies are much better appreciated when seen on the Big Screen or some feeling or something gets left out...this was one of them.

Not even the best Home Enter. Center can duplicate a Big Screen (movie theatre).

Hiya Raf,

One more thing...I think a character like Cruises' would memorize his hit list first thing. It's implausible that a fella like that wouldn't have time to brief himself on the hits. And he was smart enough to have the addresses down in 2 minutes.

A serious flaw in the script.

Rob

Probo was in the Portland, OR area about 8 years ago...probably still is.

Worked for AT&T in sales...very hard to get hold of...he eventually changed his numbers and mad them private even though he gave me all of them.

Trish and he divorced in the late 80's early 90's in Miami and she moved back to the Northwest because of family. She is remarried.

They had one daughter.

Hi Rafael and Sudo,

yeah, I mostly lurk about once a week. Sudo, everything is cool, dude.

But the topic of drinking? ha....had to respond to dat one.

Big, heavy drinkers all over HQ and the Corps.

VPW used to show up pretty smashed at Trustee meetings in the mornings, and I noticed slurred speech on more than one Corps night phone hookup.

I think he was saying that HE shouldn't have more than two. That's why it came down the ranks to the rest...two drinks? heh.

And whoever said 40 oz was right...nice big triples times two....minimum.

Me and my buddies? We realized at HQ it was a joke and ignored it.

Evan is right...it was rampant.

I was interim Corps 1980 to 1981 at HQ and it was a favorite pastime...not much else to do after dark with 10 degrees outside.

But then, maybe we drank a lot to numb the pain of it all.

Two drink limit...not for at least about 25% of the Corps I'd say.

Rob

Hi Howard...how's the liver holding up?

Feel bad for you guys...glad you're out,

and glad I bailed in '86......

I'll leave this thread to those who were there.

rob

When I started this thread I had no idea that it would be so wonderful and give so much info... Dave Anderson and Ralph Dubofsky and others made it sing.

If the only thing I did at Waydale was get this thread started then that's enough to carry over to here.

A MUST read for all of us...we weren't crazy...just crazy in Love with God and Jesus.

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I remember Jane..a sweet gal and fine to at, too.

Too bad about her husband..sad.

Alfakat,

Really....hmmm.

But she was on staff at HQ when I was there interim year in 1980-81, right? In the Allen dump?

Ok, then, I thought she went to NZ, so, she went to NoCal.

Thanks, Alfacat Man.

Valerie, that help? Prob. not.

rob

Hi Howard...how's that liver hold'n up?

Lingo,

give them a call at Sides' joint.

Was this the David Jordan of the 4th??? Corps? Or something close to it?

She is in upstate NY....Syracuse or Rochester? Something like that. I don't think it was NJ.

I saw her about 5 years ago when she came down to FL to visit and vacation...we had lunch. Still as sweet as ever.

try this link to Dale Sides' web site.

They may know where they are. Dan and Jenelda were loosely affiliated back in 1996...don't know where their journey has taken them since then.

http://www.lmciweb.org/

That's the last place I heard they were, too, circa 1996.

Gee, last I heard was in 1983 or 1985 or so and she went to New Zealand for something Way related, but I think she was having a hard time then or something.

Her having been Howard and Emogene's "housekeeper" for a number of years would make New Zealand still a little too close.

My experience has shown me that a large percentage of people go back to where they came from for family. I'd try her home state first.

But then, you don't know her married name, but brothers' name (if any) are the same, and it's an unusal last name.

Yours truly, Howard,

Rob Agsten

Rafael,

Never read the books? WOW

I've read them every five years or so since 9th grade...hmmm..I guess about 7 times.

Speed read that is.

They changed quite a few things from the books; the director did not hold true, but that's showbiz.

rob