CWF

Dave, Did you try your sap on pancakes?

CM Your words here are a refreshment. Living in Gods love is the answer in the here and now. Godspeed CWF

Which is lived in the moment. Your last statement rings so true. It's always been Grace Vs Law.

CM I went and read all of this thread. Don't know why I started at the end, but Vince & Company caught my eye. From his websight, These work based theoligies never see the finished work of Christ. They alway return to the vomit from whence they came. These words jump out of the page, responsibility, obedience, obey, and maintain. Law Law Law. Looks to me he gave up on Galatians and chose the book of straw to be his guide. First thing understood is the first thing lost. CWF

CM, I missed something. What's the deadly doctrine? CWF

Dave Make some Flap-Jacks to go with the syrup, and I'm sure the chickens will eat them all up. Hey, is it too late to tap my Maple Trees? How did you make the taps? What are you doing for Easter? Give me a call.... By the way ministry, Purple Cone Flower also boosts the immune system. This is the first year I didn't get the flu since I've been eaten them on and off for 4 years.

Bazaar parents to say the least. Their daughter has heart complications brought on from being bulimic. Heart attack turns brain into liquid. No cure. If they didn't feed her through a tube, she would have been dead a long time ago. What are the parents going to try next? Petition the court to have her freeze dried for a future cure? This story shouldn't have made the local news.

Galen I can find no harm in turning people on to this class. Although there are subjects that I myself no longer believe are absolute truth, the basics of it will help the new student get a handle on the how of the Bible. Nothing wrong in that, and everything should be open for discussion. What I find odd with some of my extwi family, is that they believed it all at one time, and now none of it. I never believed it all when I was associated with them, and that maybe my oddity. Oh well........ I'm sure there's other works out there that offer as much and even more knowledge, but I don't see the harm in offering this class to help others into reading Gods Word. If I had never taken PFAL I probably would have never thought the Bible was and is the Word of God. That statement in it's self is priceless to me. So whether you hate em or love em, VPW got some of us to read and consider the Bible as the standard for truth. What would be a shame is to believe none of it. Let God Umpire, CWF

Your now on your 10th pitcher of coffee, and the Muffin Men have taken over. We both know if this discussion had taken place in person, it's outcome probably would have been different, but such is life for the disgruntled PFAL Grad as we know it. It's time for stake. CW

I have read this thread in it's entirity, and was curious about those who believe that in the end of all things, all that has ever been will be reconsiled to God, whether spirit beings or human beings. My only question is how do you pen knife out of the Word of God everything regarding those who will not believe on the Son of God? Will not inherit means only for awhile? I really trying to understand what you are saying. def59 has asked you all to put up the scriptures that will define this as altimate truth, which is all important in all things believed, but if it doesn't matter what people believe, then I can understand why you don't post the truth of it, because it doesn't matter. Be Nice, Grandpa

David This is what the "Mind of Minolta" has become. Only you will know what I mean. Your Bro Down the Road, CWF

How do you know it was added? If it wasn't in an earlier text, which is now lost, how can you validate your statement?

Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: Romans 16:25,26 Christians had a hard time dealing with what Paul said then as they do now. Remember what he said about all of Asia. As I see it, most of Christianity we have now is nothing like the 1st century. Even the so called Church Fathers seem like Joseph Smiths to me. Fairy Tale makers. Ignatius and his letters to John make me puke. Christ Jesus is alive and quite well, and actively directing His Church. This takes all the guesswork from us in trying to understand what to do and believe as Christians. What I believe He gave Paul was the revelation regarding what He accomplished. Nobody knew the fullness of the promise, and if that's not something new, I don't know what is. I know, I know, some believe He was God and kind of erased it from His mind then, but after He raised Himself up, it all came back to Him so He called Paul out to speak what He really wanted to say to the New Israel. Huh? Grace is not law, nor patriotical, nor paradisical. And if it's not for an allotment of time, or what I call a dispensation, what the heck is it? It has a beginning and an end. And when I get to heaven, I don't think this will be the most important thing I did or didn't understand, but I'm sure that it was by God's grace that I got there. I just couldn't resist posting here again. It's been a long time. Be nice, CWF `

Can't say we, but as for I, I knew better and should have disassociated myself from them far before the FOG. The signs were all over the place.

Just saw the new posts. Dale and Jewel, Long time no see. Great to hear from you all. We left in 91 without much advertisement. I'll have to get that private message thing up. Peace, CWF

Mike, I believe there were too many things wrong, which led many, including myself, to walk away from TWI non-denominal denomination. That doesn't mean everyone has walked away from God. The two are not synonymous. There was a Godly reason for it's breakup. You can't fix something that God wants dismantled. Isn't it better that a hundred believers get their directives from Thee Source, that a hundred believers cow-towing to one believer and his supposed scorse? There's balance in life that only the Creator can explain. I don't know what to say, Mike. I do know when The Awakening comes, most want to save everybody, but not everybody is where you is at the time. Keep worken the Word, and you may find that you believe something different than VP. Doesn't make him evil, and you good. For cripe sakes, if life isn't about learning and growing in the spirit, then I don't know what this life is aboot. I know God is merciful, gracious, and faithful, and will go to the uttermost for His children. Anticipating The Lords Return, CWF

Best game I have ever seen.

TheHighWay Naw, it wasn't you. The clown I'm referring to is still actively involved. You named him. We informed all these people I mentioned of the corruption in TWI back then, and they make the choice not to believe it. I can't remember where the Williams lived after they where first married. All I can remember is their former home in Renton. Roberts and Pugh where my partners in a painting business. It broke up during the Fog, and we all went on our own. We, my family, returned to the Cleveland area in 91. Rich is afraid to think for himself. Back then, The Way was looking for allegiance, and not wisdom. I swear those that stayed on in The Way have no idea what the walk of the spirit is all about. Chuck Florek

I turned the game off twice because I was so into it. What a game!!!!! We love the Bucks up here on the North Coast too!!!! Anybody know what happened to the Purple Raiders this year? What about the Browns? Say it ain't so Jimmy Thome? Say it ain't so Jimmy Thome? There go the Indians. CWF [This message was edited by CWF on January 07, 2003 at 19:40.]

The Highway, We moved to Seattle in 83 and back here in 91. Rich was a WOW in 84. When his tour of duty was over, we invited him out to Gods country. He hooked up with some jackass corp dude who ran his life into the gutter. Rich is hoodwinked by the all powerful Oz. When we left, Linda and Rich had a nice home in Renton. Since he has sold it because of LCM. We used to fellowship with the Kennedy's. As far as I know, they also are still involved. We left the Way in 87. Peace, CWF

Talked to Rich last year via the phone. He guessed that I was not involved with TWI, and once he surmised that, the conversation was short. I talked Rich into moving to the Seattle area years ago. I still pray he sees TWI for what they truly are. He's originally from my neck of the woods. CWF