cheranne

Just wonder, how long you've been out O, if you don't mind saying. I've been out since about 1996.

i got out in 81

TWI is worse than the Army. They make you feel like your in Gods army or Gods team but their

are no benefits,just listen to the master ..you slave and don't question leadership....do this..do that

and if your sick..must be the adversary..snap out of it s.i.t. that 'll occupy your complaining and keep

you sharp and alert,with the four hours of sleep you may get.

The Army may send you too war but they DO TAKE CARE OF THEIR PEOPLE AND THE DEPENDANTS.

I agree, not that it matters if I did one way or another, if you feel inspired to do such, do it. But your thread was directed at others that we somehow should share your passion for the need to do something, not yourself doing it. As such I offered my view. Here is your title note the command NOW DO.

Me personally I don't feel the need, but if I did I would simply do it ,I might share what I did when it was done ,but most likely I would not start a thread telling others they should do the same as myself.

it's not a command,i just like large print! we are all at differant levels of healing coming out of this cult,some people will

never look back and that is their healing and some people may write a book,but how you live your life now is ofcourse

your decision.

But you better believe i am going to warn people from this cult . No i am not out to save the world . If the conversation

comes up and it does a lot more than you might think.

Their are people still in twi,people still going in and coming out like a sick train depot,not only people of twi were affected

but families,friends.

i love that their is a cross on it. isn't that ironic!

Maybe its the cross they cut offfrom the way college.

You know even in the Army you get some sleep and you eat well but given the fact you are training for war

you are constantly tested,but in The Way.................please how many chairs can you string! They treated

that as if it was an emergency room procedure and it starts right in session one don't let your babe dose off

keep him alert for the class!!!!

i consider twi an illness to our society, so IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU SHOULD WRITE A BOOK ,DO A MOVIE,WHATEVER....

THEN DO IT(YES IN ALL CAPS AND LARGE PRINT)IF NOT THEN DON'T.

WHO CARES!???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

i thought this was a song title :)

i'm always into trashing religion, mine or anyone else's

me too.i thought it was a song but that was losing my religon!

1. Do something really useful rather than complaining about poor life choices you made.

2. Take required Meds ( they are not the enemy Either)

what rock did you crawl out from under shallow hal...it sure was not JESUS!

the "cult of the dammed "was taken was is not?

I was also thinking of that sitcom married with childern the perfect disfuncitional family if they had to make a sitcome what would it be called?

is this this witness protection program or are we going wow again!!!

starring ...who?

I have been thinking lately ( yes I know this is dangerous) about buying a tractor. I can blame myself because I was promised one and probably would have gotten it if I would have kept visiting Uncle Edwin Striedel. No kids and it was the last of the farming equipment he kept.

Call it nostalgia. But I have been looking for one. What I would pay for that old one. I remember riding in a wagon behind it as a kid harvisting feild corn.

So if you happen to have an old Farmall Super A please remember me.

Go for it.

poor kid

WARN OUR SOCIETY

LET THEM BECOME AWARE OF THE WAY INTERNATIONAL

LOCAL CHURCHES ARE NOT THE ENEMY,THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH. HELP THEM

HELP OTHERS.

angry at myself for buying into the whole thing and wasting my time,education,money and hurting my family

I WANT TO USE EVERY AVENUE TO EXPOSE THE WAY INTERNATIONAL. ADD YOUR THOUGHTS OR PICTURES

In my case I was sent to Dothan, Alabama, right near Ft. Rucker.

I was sent there with three other guys in my "family" (gawd, what B.S.), and 4 guys in the other "family".

Not exactly "bait" near as I could tell. Well, not for straight servicemen anyway.

Gee, it was such wonderful time... :wacko:

equal opportunity!

I saw this on all three bases i was at FORT BRAGG, TINKER AFB, DOVER AFB

he feeling i felt after years of having left twi was as if my mind was under ice. such as to a victim who ice dives and the oxygen cuts off,like a freak accident,the victim looks for an opening while struggling to survive,and dependeing on the depth of the dive results in whether he will make it to the exit cut in te ice above. Under ice hypothermia can set in very easily if the conditionals are at the slightest bit altered or tampered with causing the BODY temperature to slow down but still function enough to survive in a coma like state. In this situation the victim may see the opening exit but,not be able to get their because of hypothernmia. i say all this top get to the point which is very hard to understand yet explain to one who has never experianced being involved in an alternative religion,cult whatever you may call it. now,i know their are books about cults and what they believe but few take you down thru the eyes of one captured,by the bait of TWI the lures and hooks that leave scars deep down in your soul,that only time can heal. websters define hypothermia as subnormal body temperature or the ARTIFICIAL REDUCTION OF BODY TEMPERATURE TO SLOW METABOLIC PROCESSES,usualy to assist the progress of HEART SURGERY.I believe this is a better description of what brainwashing realy is in this case

SONG FOR VIDEO "TRAPPED UNDER ICE' BY METALLICA

he feeling i felt after years of having left twi was as if my mind was under ice. such as to a victim who ice dives and the oxygen cuts off,like a freak accident,the victim looks for an opening while struggling to survive,and dependeing on the depth of the dive results in whether he will make it to the exit cut in te ice above. Under ice hypothermia can set in very easily if the conditionals are at the slightest bit altered or tampered with causing the BODY temperature to slow down but still function enough to survive in a coma like state. In this situation the victim may see the opening exit but,not be able to get their because of hypothernmia. i say all this top get to the point which is very hard to understand yet explain to one who has never experianced being involved in an alternative religion,cult whatever you may call it. now,i know their are books about cults and what they believe but few take you down thru the eyes of one captured,by the bait of TWI the lures and hooks that leave scars deep down in your soul,that only time can heal. websters define hypothermia as subnormal body temperature or the ARTIFICIAL REDUCTION OF BODY TEMPERATURE TO SLOW METABOLIC PROCESSES,usualy to assist the progress of HEART SURGERY.I believe this is a better description of what brainwashing realy is in this case

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off to never never land Metallica...a video of someone takiing pfal,going to roa ,going wow,going in wc,going to psyche ward

I suppose you're right. Perhaps "holding a grudge" should be defined...it may mean different things to different people.

To me, it describes my thoughts and feelings towards what these people did and continue to do to other people. I think it's terribly wrong to lie in the name of God and abuse people. It's not being obsessed or filled with bitterness...it's a cold calculated opinion. If these people were to cease from their sinful activities and ask for forgiveness, then I would gladly "seperate the sin from the sinner" and forgive them...but it's THEIR choice to continue doing what they are doing.

...and they are not even good at what they do anymore...they are still living on the fruits of Wierwille's scam. They are clouds without water...

holding a grudge is putting it mildly! I say be true to yourself,to forgive someone that abused you not to mention used you

for his gain,using GOD AS A SCAPEGOAT for his cause.

No i don't think so!

I have seen people do some pretty foolhardy crap while they ignored fear.

From what I've read, practically the whole lead experience seems to me to have been an exercise in foolhardiness..

Have to hitchike there.. no money, except for an emergency fiver or so that you'd BETTER come back with..

get hurt? Lose a few toes? Well.. it had to because of FEAR.. pretty much absolved the people supposedly running the thing from responsibility..

Get gored at rodeo school? Same as above.

I think the "lack of fear" teaching wasn't primarily about lack of fear.. maybe it was to find out who could REALLY be aggressive..

i recall twi telling us fear was false evidence appearing real, go ahead and hitchhike cross county(idiot) as long as it was

to serve the "ministry" just go ((with a terminator type attitude)) nothing can touch me or harm me as long i am walking with

twi bt mskr sure you ar n bed by midnight and upreading yor bible by sunrise.

talk about MIND CONTROL!

Usually when sending wows ,we would get two girl and two guys.

But whenever i was near an military base i alwasy noticed 1 female branch leader and 4 other women

living within a two mile radias off the base!!

Talk about a bait for the pfal class,anyone else notice that too?

i remember hearing in twi the sentence..we are establishing habit patterns to last a lifetime,

So,in therapy we are breaking habit patterns and replacing them with what the individual wants in their life

to believe or not.

what do you want ?

how do i get rid of the wrong teaching in my head?

Yes,it is ick! Big Time ICK. Everytime he sees "whitecoat"he freaks out,the whole experiance is just awful with the taking of

the blood(then they can't find a vein,the tube in his throat,the iv in his foot,in a cage he can't get out of,poor thing. on tues

he will have an eeg. He will wear a helmet with tubes lke something from a sci fi movie. but it has to be done. Thank you

all for keeping him lifted up. Now we can hope the dr. finds a piece of his liver to use in a biopsy.

moonshine and boones farm strawberry hill.....fermented grape

UPDATE AS OF 28 FEB/ CAMDEN

uPDATE RESULTS WERE NOT ENOUGH IN BIOPSY AND HAS TO GO THROUGH IT AGAIN!

tOO MANY VEINS SURROUNDING THE LIVER BIOPSY,TARGETED.

SCHEDULEDTO REDO IN TWO MONTHS

i do appreciate your reply what-the-hey

but i definitely think the "other side of the story" doesn't change what i was saying

as stated here in other posts

do you see that ?

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okay that preacher with all the kids ? so he's the one who kept his kids from dying, right ?

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also

so God would NEVER kill that little boy ? only his mommy would

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ps. i'm REALLY sorry for bringing the 6th grade nun into this

that was not my intent (to distract from my own thread, but it was part of my memory of billy)

i wanted to talk about the fear in the heart and the life of that murdering mother....

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I was at a childrens hospital this week and it was packed with parents in the waiting rooms and over at the intensive

care parents and family, friends hoping for their children to get better,to heal or not to suffer anymore,they had a

chapel for all faiths ,a sign in book for prayer or for whatever it is you look to for guidance in earth school,but i know

this if your child is sick and it is a life and death situation you will fall to your knees and pray.

Waysider,

I think he said that true SIT can't be counterfeited, and that makes sense. If a person knowingly fakes SIT, they know they are faking. If the same person knowingly SIT with a sincere belief in the heart, that is not faking. That is SIT to that person. Like a lot of stuff in the bible, it is an act of faith and belief. Anybody can say SIT is nonsense and many christians do. But at that point in PFAL when we asked God to manifest holy spirit, that was real. The born again experience we had, was real. Asking God to help us manifest the gift is real. Now, if someone says many years later that they were faking it, then I have to take them at their word. But it wouldn't negate anyone elses experience.

Me too.

Oklahoma, please clarify your belief about whether or not someone can be saved if they don't believe that Jesus is God. Thanks.

sorry,i've been away at Hershey childrens hospital with my grandson,he is out now and better.

It really doesn't matter what I personally think or don't think only God knows the heart of a person and i am unqualified to make

a statement on the saved position,..i believe i have always been a wondering person concerning spiritual things,my choice is

to believe Jesus Christ is God.