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21 minutes ago, Mark Sanguinetti said:

Yes, personal attacks are bad. However, one of the main reasons why Grease Spot Cafe has had less posters today than in previous years. Asking questions with no goal to learn. Why should a person answer a question when the person asking it will not even consider the answer explained to them? It is the practical equivalent of talking to a brick wall.

I am not at all sure that is a major factor to the lower participation here, let alone a main one.

Facebook, Twitter, maturing, age, goals, changing personal foci, refusing to have others force their interpretation ... all have a part in the traffic here.  Not many people come here to get preached to. I am sure of that.

Do you yourself come here to learn anything? (P.S. it is not required that you do).

1 hour ago, Mark Sanguinetti said:

...(snipped)...Do you read the bible now? Obviously, if you have actual biblical questions this would involve reading the bible. And the asking of questions on any subject should involve the desire to learn from others.

Currently reading the Bible is not a prerequisite to participating here, nor for asking questions about it. Also, there are many reasons for asking questions other than desiring to learn from others.

my mother always asked questions of her contacts, not so much to learn from them, but to help them better define or develop their own positions.

 Rocky or others may or may not ever answer Mark’s question, but anyone can ask, comment, or discuss doctrine here provided they do not make personal attacks.

the topic title defined the thread as “The myth of hell”.  It is not limited to discussing Mark’s personal biblical doctrine. That is not how this place works.

Thanks Outandabout.

if there is sufficient financial help so that Paw is no longer left holding the bills for this place it would have no reason to close shop. At this stage in life and after all that he has done, there is no reason he should feel obligated to fund it himself.

If I recall correctly the dots are indicative of your “rank”. i.e. it relates to how many posts you have made. When someone has made “x” # of posts their rank increases and the phrase changes automatically.  At least that is how it used to work. The different phrases are embedded into the site and change the more one posted. There also was a way it could be edited. I am not sure how it works now with the new platform.

This is turning more doctrinal than about Wierwille Indoctrinator or TWI. Please keep doctrine where it belongs.

I am not sure,  but try logging in with your display name, Human without the beam, and password rather than your email address and password.

”With the upgrade there is no longer separate login ids and display names.  Your login ID is now your display name.”

I have split what I think were posts regarding "Dispensationalism"  to a new thread in Doctrinal by that name, located here:

http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24710-dispensationalism/

let me know by PM if something was moved which should not have been, or if something more needs to be moved. Thank you, Meanwhile please keep discussion in *this* thread to the topic in the original title.

This thread was created to split the this topic off from a thread in "About the Way" located here:

http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24675-did-vpw-cite-his-sources-or-did-he-plagiarize/

The above posts in this thread were moved here because I read them as regarding "Dispensationalism" rather than VPW's Plagiarism.

Please let me know by PM if something was moved which should not have been, or if something more needs to be moved. Thank you.

23 hours ago, Rocky said:

I guess you and I were the only ones who got the memo. Oh well. 

I got the memo. It used to be easier to do than it is now. I will look into it. Meanwhile carry one

On 6/10/2018 at 1:50 PM, Taxidev said:

I'm on his page now, and I don't see it.  I scrolled all the way back to 2016.  Maybe the whole thread was deleted?

I believe you have to be FB friends with JAL to see it?

1 hour ago, T-Bone said:

Well, if you think I’m gonna do an encore of my self-flagellation routine…you’re crazy !

Hah! No. I was just confessing it took me too long but it was finally open in case anyone cared to know.  Carry on amigos

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I was going to post it there the Mods had locked that thread

FYI, the Trinity thread has been cleaned up and unlocked. It took a bit of time to get it ready.

This was a good reminder for newcomers. Bumping it to be seen.

The established rules for the forums can be found here:

http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/18326-revised-rules/

2 minutes ago, GoldStar said:

I do have an idea how this could be considered something such as M/A, but obviously stating that idea, however true, will not make a difference, the owners/leaders get to call the shots, just like at TWI

Whether a post is in one forum or another has no bearing on its merit or value. We try to keep the topics of threads in About the Way just that...about The Way. Occasionally within threads the discussion will wander off the topic, and that is to be expected, but the general thread topic usually comes back. Since Billy Graham had no presence within TWI the topic of his death does not belong there.

If I had moved the thread to Memorium then it would have some different rules as to how people may speak of the deceased. I did not put it there. That is a whole 'nother matter.

 

I have moved this thread from About the Way to its proper forum. I have no idea how that could be considered anything such as M/A. It is simple housekeeping as is often done when a thread is misplaced. A link from its original location will stay there for 30 days.
 

5 hours ago, Taxidev said:

Uncle Harry really said that?!?!  But he was VPW's brother, right?  And wasn't he the treasurer for TWI?  I thought he was committed to them for life.  Did I miss a history lesson?

No, this thread  is primarily witticisms written by Members that other members found to be entertaining, meaningful, or otherwise in need of preserving so they were gathered here to be remembered. In this case I believe this was written by a poster named  “Uncle Hairy” not “Harry” and Raf placed it here. It is a play on a well-known quote from back in TWIt’s big days.

I was not able to locate the original post by Research geek which Mike mentioned. All I find are pastes by Mike of the post where it is described as from October 4. 2002 in a thread titled "Why Lie?" I cannot find that thread nor the actual post and context by Research Geek.

Welcome to GSC Maya and thanks for telling your story. Rest assured we do not think you were at fault. You sound pretty darn awesome to me! 

I pinned this thread for now and will discuss with others if there is a better way. Thanks WW

This happened 01/08/2017 but the news was not posted until today.

Victor Barnard beaten in prison, taken to hospital

It is preferred that those named in these lurid accusations not be searchable via search engines. Especially those who are likely not still part of TWI. Thank you.

Raf did not need to consult me on it. He is well aware of my position. There will be no pol-attacks forum on these pages

I am glad she at least has the support of extended family. She has been through so much and deserves whatever hugs she can get. Barnard would not have pled guilty if Lindsay and Jess had it "confused". At least by his plea he spared his followers from lying in court. They are stuck with lying to themselves.

Ok, I looked at this last night before Raf asked me about it and was considering how to address it. Here is my thinking.

I am leaving it visible at least for now but locking it to further comment. This accomodates Mark's stated purpose with the thread, but as with any topic of this nature there are multiple facets one should look at.

It is of course a topic citizens need to be aware of for a variety of reasons, however GSC is not the place to discuss it. Virtually every candidate for POTUS has mentioned it and it surely will continue to be part of those campaigns in one fashion or another. As such I do not want to have a precedent of allowing some political topics and then be faced with disallowing others.