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The Bishon thinks it is a family member and will want to go on all your trips with you. The Englsih Spaniel is not a one person dog but a family dog. It has a sweet nature and I would trust it around kids. Also it is not too small but hearty enough to withstand playful children.

The Boston being a terrier may like to dig and get out of a fence. Also alot of terriers are one person dogs. The spaniel should not be a big digger which is a plus.

Rottie, don't ya just love knowing another pet will get a good home with socket?

Dot Matrix

Thanks for your insight and in a light hearted response--

Lindy:

I will have to check out peewee. Of course that is only when he is not checking himself out at the theater....Mmmmmm The popcorn throwing and audience participation was something that happened later. I do not think it was intentional. But considering how awful the movie was perhaps the first one to throw something at the screen was because they paid $8.00 to see a sucky film and from there it grew to tossing toast etc.

Rottie:

And what is with the old guy in the wheel chair who gets up and has on a garter belt?

I also like the Time warp.

I tried to reasonably figure out Tommy. It was written during the time when cults were popping up everywhere. Perhaps it was a kid whose parents never saw or heard him. So he joins a cult let's call the cult -- TWI. Then, he gets so involved with it he becomes the object of worship -- translation he goes in the corps and becomes ordained.

Then, he kills his parents -- symbolic for not being able to go home to be with your family when you were a WOW.

I still do not get the swimming and climbing a mountain however. Unless of course, the mountain is the giant erection leadership has for single believers... Mmmmmm perplexing.

Dot Matrix

HOW COOL! I have some info to pass along and it may help or not --

Check into Southern Hope Humane Society.

They have lots od displaced "kids".

I would not buy from a pet store as most of the time they get animals from non-reputable breeders but rather from puppy mills.

Puppy mills are a place where they use pets like breeding stock. They jam pipes down the throats of their dogs to debark them, many times breaking their jaws and not fixing them It is an evil system and many groups are rescuing dogs from these places and trying to close them down. (Pull up HUA Hearts Unite for Animals to read about it)

It is best to go to a reputable breeder and you can locate one via the inter net.

Depending on the size of your children I would either suggest or not suggest a small dog. Many little children view small dogs as toys and the fall on them breaking their legs or giving them eye injuries as is the case with many/some peke's that have been rescued.

If you want a low maintanence dog a Boston is good as the hair does not need much grooming.

You can pull the breed up on the inter net and read about its temperment and history of health.

A Bishon, poodle or a Boxer are great if you have allergies. But the Bishon needs to be groomed regularly. A great family dog is an English spaniel. The American Cocker snaps too frequently and can be moody. The English spaniel is medium sized and has a great temperment.

(I have recently jumped industries and have become a dog groomer.)

Please check into the correct food as grocery store food is made from lab animals, road kill, euthanised pets and diseased animals. The grains they use are moldy and is rejected for human consumption. Try Canidae or Wellness. You can look them up on the inter net for a store near you.

God Bless on your decision! You will get loved loved loved with a good family pet!

Dot Matrix

Mike:

I did not read all 9 pages of this thread. So, you may have already addressed this.

But I am speaking to you and will move to a table for two if I figure out how.

Mike:

In reading your original posts it seems you have been trying to figure out WHAT HAPPENED. Perhaps, taking the PFAL class at the time you took it -- saved your life. It did mine. Maybe you have been still looking for a way to save the ministry. I tired to save it as well.

Mike, I do not fault your enthusiasm nor do I fault your efforts to save something that helped you. But so much has been revealed in the past 17-20 years that I think you need to catch up on what others have contributed to our understanding of VPW and TWI.

Neither of which were/are squeaky clean. The parts of the PFAL class which helped you are not because of some guy who figured out how to exploit the Bible, but because God loves you and the parts of the Bible VPW did not corrupt in his class (which he stole from other ministers and did not get huge revelation with Giant "D's" and "L's" looming over greek words. That was part of the sensationalism he added to other men's hard work) are the parts of God's heart that were able to work despite VP's attempt to make himself a wealthy institution.

God loves you. Take any good you were able to glean and throw out the rest including the obvious way you hold VP on a pedestal. Put Jesus up on that pedestal and you will begin to heal.

Perhaps some info on the former GS site would help you if anyone has access to it. It was a thread close to the end of the other GS before we moved (the date) and it was something like

Did TWI start out evil or become evil? You will hear from many people that were around VP from the begining. It will shock you and the truth will set you free. VP was not a nice man. But God is still a great God. I hope you can let go of one and find the other.

Bless you

Dot Matrix

Okay.

I am a adult who grew up during the 60/70's.

I was in TWI and never saw Rocky Horror nor did I see Tommy until after I left TWI. I guess I watched them because now I could watch them without having to go to a meeting to be delivered of the demons I would get from viewing them. :D-->

So, I sit down and watch it on TV. I have NO idea what any of it means. I dabbled in the symbolic nature and still do not get it.

Rocky Horror: He is a transsexual from outer space? The symbolism eludes me. Janet and her boyfriend are lost and find their way to "Rocky's house". They each have an affair with the transsexual thinking he is someone else at first. Rocky is created for the transsexual but doesn't like his transsexual creator.

A biker shows up (Meatloaf) and dies. They all fall into a swimming pool and the house goes up into space.

Tommy: He can not see or hear but he looks into the mirror all the time. His Mom pushes him through the mirror then he can see and hear. He gets into religion. Then he becomes the religion and the object of worchip. His parents join him. Then some bikers (again with the bikers) show up and Tommy kills his parents. Then goes swimming and climbs a mountain. What the f?

Okay what in the he!! Does anyone know what it all means? I have such a headache.... -->

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Please tell me the John G was not John Guar__ _i

of the 11th Corps?

I grew up with him in the word. Joe the bro got me involved in 1972. I always wondered about John and it would be a tragic loss if he was the person that was that mean in his leadership.

I hope it was not. If so, I want you to know as a young teen of around 14 thru his being about 22 he was a real nice guy. TWI ruins people.

I am so sorry to you and for him if he has become that dedicated to the bad TWI ways.

Dot Matrix

Thanks Rascal!

I think about her everyday. I know in 11 years I will still choke up as you did....

I miss her...

Dot Matrix

I am so blessed by everything all of you have written.

I do miss her greatly. I always will.

Dot Matrix

It was about almost a month after we buried my father-in-law. My husband was only home 4days from helping his mother (out of state) with the funeral and other private affairs related to his father's death.

My precious little peke dog died. Jeff found her on the floor. He tried to revive her but she had past. I fell apart. I held her lifeless body and sobbed for about 5 hours. She was still so soft iot was hard to believe her "life force" was gone.

I told her if animals do have an after life, to let me know and I told her mentally what to show me.

After PFAL I was convinced that animals just die. Animals and unbelievers that is. It always pained me as I LOVE my animals and my Dad is an unbeliever.

So, here I am dying over the death of my dog and the sign I silently told her came to pass.

Baby, my dog, had a small pink ball out in California she played with all the time. When we got to Georgia it was lost. I mean lost for 7 years. I knew it had to be in the house somewhere, but it never turned up. Not even when we shampooed the rugs.

About two weeks after she had passed I came home to find her pink ball on the floor. It was just sitting there as if she had been playing with it.

It blew my mind.

Dot Matrix

[This message was edited by Dot Matrix on September 16, 2003 at 23:46.]

WOW! Great Poem!

I am proud of you, too Timothy, Ryan and Daniel!!

Dot Matrix

Thanks to all of you. Somehow your posts have added warmth to a cold and confusing time!

Dot Matrix

WOW! God is Good!!! Wonderful news --

But I will keep in my prayers for continued good news!

Dot Matrix

Paw mentioned he was having some trouble in the family. Please join in prayer for his problem finding sweet and comforting resolve.

Also that God continue to give him the strength to carry on with GS when we become "the wild child" and he wonders if it is worth it.

(Paw, I know GS has helped me GREATLY.)

Praying for you and yours...

Dot Matrix

Thanks -- I appreciate your kindness

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Thank you Dan. This is a heart breaker. My mother-in-laws "mother" just died the day Marc first went into the hospital and now she lost him...

Thanks -- death does have an incredible sting.

Dot Matrix

Please pray for the family. My father-in-law passed away a few hours ago. He was a good and decent man.

In tribute:

"I shall be"

I long ago by a garden wept

To see the detail, by a flower kept

To hear the flight of a passing bee

And smell the rain as it lands on me

The field alive with teem of song

as happy little creatures throng

The earth is a blanket brown and vast

And today, beneath it, I shall rest

For I shall sleep below the rush

of squirrels and birds and plants and such

But let them play; atop me run

For I am part of their glorious fun

My voice not silence, but is changed

it is the patter of the rain

And when I long -- your cheek to brush

the petal of a flower touch

The beauty which is all around

makes the most melodious sound

I give to you my symphony

So, do not come and cry for me

But rather hear me differently

and look for me in what you see

For I am happy in this song

of bees and birds and harmony

My love?s the breeze touching your face

The scent of flowers is my embrace

The hum of life is part of me

When you enjoy it... I shall be.

By Dot Matrix

September 3, 2002

edited for spelling

[This message was edited by Dot Matrix on September 04, 2002 at 4:56.]

Marc, my father-in law died at 8:02 pm

September 3, 2002

He was a good and decent man

"I shall be"

I long ago by a garden wept

To see the detail, by a flower kept

To hear the flight of a passing bee

And smell the rain as it lands on me

The field alive with teem of song

as happy little creatures throng

The earth is a blanket brown and vast

And today, beneath it, I shall rest

For I shall sleep beneath the rush

of squirrels and birds and plants and such

But let them play; atop me run

For I am part of their glorious fun

My voice not silence, but is changed

it is the patter of the rain

And when I long -- your cheek to brush

the petal of a flower touch

The beauty which is all around

makes the most melodious sound

I give to you my symphony

So, do not come and cry for me

But rather hear me differently

and look for me in what you see

For I am happy in this song

of bees and birds and harmony

My love?s the breeze touching your face

The scent of flowers is my embrace

The hum of life is part of me

When you enjoy it-- I shall be.

By Dot Matrix

September 3, 2002

I know more about dog food but I can help you.

Around 1930 the beef and chicken producers had parts of the animal they could not use, as it was not fit for human consumption. The rice manufacturers had the same problems.

They came up with pet food. They use the beaks and feathers of chickens and the run off from rice, which has no nutrition value at all and called it pet food. Then, they taught the Vets to say "do not give your pets people food." Well, before the 1930's the dog and cat ate what you ate. (Except onions and chocolate)

The pet food manufacturers were using a lot of grain in dog and cat foods. Grain is not good for them (as the main ingredient). They are carnivores. Cows eat grass and "what not" as they have more than one stomach to digest all of this stuff. The digestive tracks on the dog and, I believe the cat, are shorter.

Anything in the grocery store is usually full of fillers and allergens.

Some of the best pet food is made by the following companies:

Wellness

http://www.oldmotherhubbard.com/dogs/wellness_overview.html

Canidae

http://www.canidae.com

PHD

http://phdproducts.net/dogfood.asp

I believe each site will tell you where you can buy these foods. They are all made with HUMAN grade meats, vegetables and rice.

You can also find a Vet that is holistc as well. My Vet is also a pet nutritionist and chiropractor.

Dot Matrix

Happy Birthday to you!

Happy Birthday to you!

Happy Birthday dear pirate1974

Happy Birthday to you....

Dot Matrix

May it be a time of closure and a catharsis?s

for you....

God Bless you through this...

Dot Matrix

praying

Dot Matrix

God bless you! Still praying...

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Please pray for Marc

He went to the hospital for a bad back. They found cancer. They operated on the back and missed something. Did a second surgery a week later on his back. This time he had a stroke.

They built his strength to have the cancer surgery but the night prior he had another stroke, Found a clogged main artery to the brain, had to operate on that instead. Put in a vein from the leg in his neck...

The next day that vein failed and he had another stroke. They operated AGAIN and put in an artificial vein.

He is 77 years old and was strong as an ox under 90 days ago.... They still have to operate and remove the cancer.

Currently, he is unable to speak, move, or eat.

He is almost a vegtable. BUT the MRI looked good.

PRAYER is ALL we have. Please pray for my DAD in law Marc!!!!

Please

Pray for a total recovery...

Dot Matrix

Thanks

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Praying

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