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Although all the lyrics do not apply ~ I Need you now!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dte3hII4nek&feature=related
Been singing this for a week... I am just a top 50 person I guess...
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This is a little naughty and X rated but Bow with your triumphant testimony all I kept thinking about was this movie and Bruce Willis so here goes:
Forgive the dirty word ~ it is the joyous sentiment I wanted to share!
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Bow:
GREAT TOPIC!!! AND GREAT TEACHING!!!
I always had this silly notion that trix were for kids... Oh Wait, wrong topic. I had this notion that if I had to "forgive" someone I had to erase everything, the history, the wrong, and reinstate them. And this shows you do not have to do that. I believe forgiveness has been a misunderstood topic and stood in the scripture mocking us as we gather on both sides of the argument ~ do I HAVE to forgive if they do not ask? I do not think you do, but do you want to carry around that person’s toxic waste forever? So, we can learn to forgive because we learn to "love."
I love this list you gave Bow:
Some things forgiveness does not mean:
It does not mean approving of what someone else did.
It does not mean pretending that evil never took place.
It does not mean making excuses for other people's bad behavior.
It does not mean justifying evil so that sin somehow becomes less sinful.
It does not mean overlooking abuse.
It does not mean denying that others tried to hurt you repeatedly.
It does not mean letting others walk all over you.
It does not mean refusing to press charges when a crime has been committed.
It does not mean forgetting the wrong that was done.
It does not mean pretending you were never hurt.
It does not mean you must restore the relationship to what it was before.
It does not mean you must become friends again.
It does not mean there must be a total reconciliation as if nothing ever happened.
It does not mean that you must tell the person you have forgiven them.
It does not mean that all negative consequences of sin are canceled.
I have forgiven many a person who I have not reinstated to their former position in my life. Do I love and pray for them, sure thing! But I can't surround myself with people who historically "hurt, lie, cheat or steal" from me.
Tim Sullivan (former 10th corps) went to Ruwanda where the Tutsis and the Hutus were. Recall that horrific slaughter where the Hutus would do dastardly things against the Titus the least of which was not carve babies out of pregnant mothers killing both mother and child?
So, Our (brave) Tim is over there in a church where the Tutsis and the Hutis are both parishioners. And the Titus have been crippled, killed, maimed and defeated by the Hutus. And the Hutus in the church were then victimizing the Tutsis by telling them “They have to forgive them.” Like Jesus commands you forgive us. All with out a heartfelt repentance.
Tim Sullivan stood before this church and taught on love, repentance and forgiveness. It is not entitlement. If the wrong doer genuinely repentance then a real Christian can genuinely offer forgiveness. And if the Christian offers forgiveness without being asked for it; it is a noble and loving act on behalf of the Christian ~ which is still not entitlement on behalf of the wrong doer.
Tim if you are out there, my brother, please add to this or correct anything I reported incorrectly.
From an article to refresh our memories:
The Hutus carried out these killings of a most brutal nature on their compatriot Tutsis of all ages and gender, and numerous elite Hutu politicians have been found guilty for the organization of the genocide. The Rwandan Military and Hutu militia groups systematically set out to murder all the Tutsis they could capture. Hutu civilians also participated in the killings and were instructed to kill their Tutsi neighbors. Most nations evacuated their nationals from Kigali and abandoned their embassies in the initial stages of the violence, including France.
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I just cry my eyes out over stuff like this~
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/11/16/nr.hero.dog.accidentally.killed.cnn?iref=allsearch
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To Bobby Tillman~ I am so sorry the world is so mean~
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/11/09/georgia.teen.beaten/index.html?iref=allsearch
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/11/08/bobby.tillman.mother.speaks.WGCL?iref=allsearch
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:) I love it too!
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I dated him in high school.
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One of the old posters/corps here actually wrote JC OP. VP stole it word for word and published it. And I maybe wrong but I believe he wrote the WHOLE thing while he was in the corps. If not the whole thing ~ a large part. We discussed it many times. I cannot elaborate, but I hope this helps you.
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I am glad you enjoyed it!
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Off topic
How do I make the cute box with the pic in it so I can post something? Like you all do? I forget. Sorry for the interruption
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I hope you like it. If not, its okay. I do.
If it comes up and doesn't start, drag your arrow and the "controls" will appear.
The Butterfly Circus
http://www.thedoorpost.com/hope/film/?film=4dd298f102c77b625cf37a9e7744ac68
I forget how to make the little box with the picture come up. Let me try again!
Sorry it says I cannot use that image on this board
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Off topic
BOWTWI
Each time I see your avitar with that woman and her leg sticking out I want to buy her a pair of pants cause she looks cold... Isn't that funny?
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Groucho you said
I was on my interim year in the 10th corps...my wife and I were sent to Gastonia, North Carolina...I came home from a meeting and she was gone...left a note she did...
after 3 days, I called Martindale...he handed me my walking papers and booted me out of the corps...
He was harsh with me...told me to "find a twig somewhere and keep in touch"...
At that moment, it all became clear to me...I told him to go "F" himself and hung up...never looked back...
it was one of the most liberating experiences of my life.
The thing that is so sad to me is, when your wife left it must have been shocking, life-changing, painful and bewildering. Just when the "church" should come and minister to you in love TWI was there to put salt in the wound.
"We will know they are Christians by their love." Food for thought
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I am very sorry for the loss of your friend
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Not here often.
My response is this. I was speaking more deeply than the examples given so here is another one~
“Daddy, will you play with me?” This was the last thing the man wanted to hear from his son. He had just come home from a very long day at work. He was tired, hungry and all he wanted to do before dinner was sit down, read the newspaper and relax. “Daddy PLEEEEEASE?”
Suddenly the man had an idea. He took a full page from the newspaper that had a picture of the world on it and tore it up into several small pieces. Next, he went to a drawer and got a scotch tape dispenser. He gave the pieces of paper and the tape to his son and said, “Here is a jigsaw puzzle of the world, Buddy. Take it to your room and put it together. As soon as you bring it back to me, I’ll play with you, OK?”
His son excitedly ran off to his room to put the puzzle together and the man sat back in his chair to read his paper, very proud of the fact that he had outsmarted his son and bought himself some time.
To the man’s surprise, his son returned a very short time later with the whole puzzle perfectly put together. “How in the world did you put that puzzle together so quickly?” he asked incredulously. “It would have taken me more than twice as long to do it myself!”
His son answered him, “Well, Daddy, the picture of the world you gave me was too hard for me to figure out. But I noticed that a picture of a man’s hand was on the back of one of the pieces. Then I looked at another one and I saw his foot. It was easier for me to put one man together than the whole world, so I just did that. Then I noticed that as the man came together, so did the world around him!”
Couldn't help being amazed by the symbolism behind that little story.
When you get yourself together the world around you changes.
It is and it is not as simple as saying "no". Pile on life around it. And one winds up in a cult where girls have sex with men to please God and people sell their homes to please a man of God. Simple: Just say no!
How do certain people get conned and others do not? How are some able to walk away and others stay? How do some people sleep with people they do not want to be with and some don't. It is more complicated and layered. It is what compels us to make choices that are not good choices for us. Guilt? An over sense of obligation? Confusion about Christian love? How do some people wind up sending money to a guy from Nigeria? What triggers you? What triggers me to make unwise choices? When I inventoried my own life and removed layers of "in put" I had to look at behaviors and responses I recognized over and over and over again.
It takes a lot of work, honesty, evaluation, forgiveness and willingness to change. It takes realizing when your life is out of control and you feel powerless and turning it over to one who has the power to change us ~ Jesus Christ.
It is involved. It is a process. It takes accountability for our own actions. Not just saying, "I was in a cult" or whatever situation you want to look at. And then digging into why "I" or why "You" were in a cult. What is my accountability?
I want change. And I have to realize the only thing I can change is me. When "I" change then the world around me changes.
I bet they have meetings in th UK if you want to check it out. It is a nice thing to do for yourself. :)
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WARNING: CURSING IN THIS FUNNY FUNNY SONG!
Rated R - Cursing in this hysterical song!
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I am going to "Celebrate Recovery" and it has really helped me change the way I see things... I am glad you are also on the journey... The rewards are "freedom".
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Java - Jim was the weird guy and she only knew he was Jim then - one day I watch and Jim is actually Jim again -- am I wrong? Yeah they jumped 5 sharks -- and I hate to say it but the son being 6 after he was just born - creeps me out!
Thanks Roy, yeah I do not BELIEVE it - but I do watch it... off and on...
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Okay, yes I do watch it off and on. So, throw me out of the corps... However, I am so confused by the story line - I am ready to give up watching do to THAT!
Okay, Melisa's husband Jim Dies... Then comes back in that weird guy. Then, how did he come back as himself as HE WAS DEAD?
Then, she is expecting a child - then the dang kid is about 6 years old.... What happened from birth to the corps -- I mean birth to SIX YEARS OLD?
HELP ME--
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Rattle the cage
Flicker the light
This kind of love keeps you up all night
You know somethin' aint right
You call on a friend
Could you be so sure
That old line's been done before
You know somethin' aint right
Can you feel it come coming
Can you feel it come here it comes
Its taken you forever though you're living so fast
And you're in for the running in a race and comin last
He doesnt love you (12x)
Its taken you forever though you're living so fast (2x)
You wanna be saved
Well dont be naive
Its your choice if you wanna leave you know
So dont you delay
You've taken the brunt
Of both of your lives
Its not how your supposed to compromise
So dont you delay
Can you feel it come coming
Can you feel it come here it comes
A little old stain will show you what he's done
You'll never stay afloat and if you cave in while you're
Can you feel it come coming
Can you feel it come here it comes
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Dooj:
When I was a "girl" I dreamed that someday I would meet someone who would love me and whom I would love. I pictured it many different ways but it was always wrapped in "love" and friendship. I knew I would look in his eyes and he would see me and I - him.... that when I held his hand it would be like I reclaimed a piece of me.
Only, I did not know how rare that kind of love is/was. I did not know that couples "hate" and one could be "lonely" in a marriage. What I wanted never happened for me. And for a long while I wondered if it was "real" or "really out there" or by design something people would dream about and never attain.
Anyway, I know that it does exist because I heard "IT" in the "two of you." And what I read here now is such intense love, sweet love and dedication that I can feel your unbearable pain. I am so very sorry.
It just seems like birds should stop singing or rain should fall... but the good news is "you two had IT" The "it" people dream of, the "it" people seek, the "it" people sing of, write of and present in poems trying to capture the "it" that eludes some of us a lifetime...
You and Rummy are the reason love songs are written.…
I know you will find him again as you said in an earlier post.
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Many of us "loved" him. The two of you knew what it felt like to be "in" love. It is such a touching story.... (Dooj) I thought of him all day and I cried for both of you. I keep coming back to this thread as in a weird way - reading of him, speaking of him and seeing him represented here is helping me keep him alive because I am far from ready to let him go.
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i think you can find harvey and ask him
http://www.plaxo.com/directory/profile/158915184010/a854da38/Harve/Platig
i'm sure he's on facebook as well
I would have NEVER recognized him in a million years...
Song of the moment
in Open
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When it comes on at work Ava and I sing it - each trying to outdo the other - as we can both sing.
But between us, she really does sing better than I do. But don't tell her :)